Let's talk about the Peterborough United game

[normal rules]

Mason -Clark who got their winner was signed for posh by Mcann. Gotta love football.

[Chris Black come back]

The lad they brought on fairly late and played right back did I think win his place in a raffle.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/67603223

Highlights.

[Plumbster]

I think Bailey got switched to the back because Nixon was having a very tough time

[normal rules]

Bad hold up on the A1 but have arrived. Loads of red and white here!
Charters bar on the boat is brilliant.

We walked around the little Christmas market outside charters and had the most amazing festive chipotle chicken wrap with cranberry sauce and Stilton along with a warm mulled wine cider. Very very nice.

[normal rules]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/67603223

Highlights.

Didn’t show the disallowed goal. There’s a thing.

[normal rules]

1011 rovers supporters

[Nudga]

1011 rovers supporters

Good turn out and great to see so many in the santa hats

[sedwardsdrfc]

Great effort by Hurst at the end there.

[Campsall rover]

Just got home from hols. Light snow falling in Campsall at 6.45

Gone from 24 degrees in Tenerife to -1 at home. Welcome home.

Sounds as though we gave them a game.
Pity we didn’t win but can concentrate on the BS cup now and the League of course.

[normal rules]

1011 rovers supporters

Good turn out and great to see so many in the santa hats

The Sainsbury’s ones with an elastic rim are good value. And kept my ears warm today. A real godsend.

[Plumbster]

I envy you folk that still live in Donny- train due into Newcastle at 21:06 and then half hour drive

[BillyStubbsTears]

Close call

https://twitter.com/WeekdayBargee/status/1730999261314118104

COYR

Looks like Mo's off from the free kick, not necessarily the flick on.

He's a good 18 inches offside when the free kick is taken. It's a bit embarrassing to have McCann going on about it being a bad mistake by the linesman.

[Filo]

Close call

https://twitter.com/WeekdayBargee/status/1730999261314118104

COYR

Looks like Mo's off from the free kick, not necessarily the flick on.

He's a good 18 inches offside when the free kick is taken. It's a bit embarrassing to have McCann going on about it being a bad mistake by the linesman.

Onside from the second phase when Ironside heads it, and thats the important point, it was onside, had Ironside not touched it it would have been offside

[BillyStubbsTears]

It's not a "second phase" though is it? I thought in a situation like that, it's all part of the same move

Hands up if it's me not understanding how on earth the law is applied these days.

[Filo]

It's not a "second phase" though is it? I thought in a situation like that, it's all part of the same move

Hands up if it's me not understanding how on earth the law is applied these days.

It’s you not understanding how the law is applied, how many times have you seen a forward at free kicks standing 3 or 4 yards offside only to be back onside when someone else has touched the ball?

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Close call

https://twitter.com/WeekdayBargee/status/1730999261314118104

COYR

Looks like Mo's off from the free kick, not necessarily the flick on.

He's a good 18 inches offside when the free kick is taken. It's a bit embarrassing to have McCann going on about it being a bad mistake by the linesman.

Onside from the second phase when Ironside heads it, and thats the important point, it was onside, had Ironside not touched it it would have been offside

That's stretching it to call that second phase plus it's debatable whether Mo gets back onside as it's very close call when Joe flicks it. To the naked eye, in real time you can understand why the Linsman flags offside.  Even VAR would struggle with that one I think.

[selby]

  Well to me we set a new standard today and now need to keep it up.
  That was a great cup tie to watch, had everything but we just could not  get it over the line just a little more class taking the plaudits.
  I can accept that sort of effort, and we are a young side that visibly is improving, keep it up and it will come.
 

[Filo]

Close call

https://twitter.com/WeekdayBargee/status/1730999261314118104

COYR

Looks like Mo's off from the free kick, not necessarily the flick on.

He's a good 18 inches offside when the free kick is taken. It's a bit embarrassing to have McCann going on about it being a bad mistake by the linesman.

Onside from the second phase when Ironside heads it, and thats the important point, it was onside, had Ironside not touched it it would have been offside

That's stretching it to call that second phase plus it's debatable whether Mo gets back onside as it's very close call when Joe flicks it. To the naked eye, in real time you can understand why the Linsman flags offside.  Even VAR would struggle with that one I think.

Not even debatable

https://x.com/tombiltcliffe/status/1731033948925338021?s=61&t=DCRm1C_BBr5pt7J45jXUsA

[BillyStubbsTears]

It's not a "second phase" though is it? I thought in a situation like that, it's all part of the same move

Hands up if it's me not understanding how on earth the law is applied these days.

It’s you not understanding how the law is applied, how many times have you seen a forward at free kicks standing 3 or 4 yards offside only to be back onside when someone else has touched the ball?

Ok. Just read Law 11. It's about as clear as mud, but interpreting what it says strictly (or more accurately, what it DOESN'T say) it appears that only the situation as at the very last touch from a teammate counts. It doesn't ACTUALLY say that explicitly, which would help, but I can't interpret it any other way.

In which case I was wrong and the goal should have stood.

It's a bloody stupid way to apply what in essence is a very simple concept though. Offside is about penalising a striker for trying to gain an unfair advantage by their position. Faal was clearly doing that from the free kick and if he's not going to be penalised for taking up that offside position, it makes defensive decision making impossible. I can't understand how they have made such a simple concept so messy.

[BillyStubbsTears]

It certainly was an excellent set piece though. More of that, please.

[drfchound]

It's not a "second phase" though is it? I thought in a situation like that, it's all part of the same move

Hands up if it's me not understanding how on earth the law is applied these days.

It’s you not understanding how the law is applied, how many times have you seen a forward at free kicks standing 3 or 4 yards offside only to be back onside when someone else has touched the ball?

Agreed Filo, Faal is played on by their number five after Ironsides flick on.
No doubt in my mind that the goal should have stood.
The Twitter clip further back in the thread shows it clearly.
Attackers do this all the time under the laws as they stand and as you say, it gives them an advantage if the ball is subsequently touched on.

[normal rules]

It certainly was an excellent set piece though. More of that, please.
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After rovers got their goal
They became much more direct. Beggars belief why they could do this all game .

[drfchound]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/67603223

Highlights.

Didn’t show the disallowed goal. There’s a thing.

See reply number 82, there is a Twitter clip of it.
No way should the goal have been ruled out.

[Filo]

Lino also miles behind play and in no position to call offside

[drfchound]

At the time I thought it was a late flag and my first thought was it was a good goal.

[Pancho Regan]

Close call

https://twitter.com/WeekdayBargee/status/1730999261314118104

COYR

Looks like Mo's off from the free kick, not necessarily the flick on.

He's a good 18 inches offside when the free kick is taken. It's a bit embarrassing to have McCann going on about it being a bad mistake by the linesman.

So not actually embarrassing for Grant to be going on about it then?

It was a goal. We were denied by an incorrect decision. We were robbed of a result which we richly deserved.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Crikey. It certainly ain't clear and as for Biltcliffe's comments, deary me.

Even if we're saying Mo is played on when Joe flicks it, he's probably on (level) for a tenth of a second and from the linesmans view, the defenders virtually invisible (and yes, because the lino is not directly line), all he can see is Mo, so it's understandable why lino thinks Mo never got back onside.

I must admit, checking the laws it ain't clear as Mo is always active in the move, and he never gets back behind the ball.

To coin a phrase, it ain't  clear and it ain't that obvious.

Wish it had have counted mind. Very unlucky.

[Spilsby Red]

Jones- awesome today. No fault at any goals.some might disagree especially first one. There forward nearly headed the ball which he didn’t hence why it went in. Similar to closes goal at FGR. Made some great saves
Nixon- not on it today. Should have gone of at half time
Anderson- caught out a lot in first half. Seemed to get better second half
Olowu- torrid time today. The right hand side of there team were fast and good. Kept going so credit
Bailey- changed position to many times in first half. Better in defence in my opinion
Close- difficult game. Missed Westbrooke
Broadbent- went missing a bit in first half. Great ball to Faal. More involved second half
Molyneux- fantastic as always. Lacked support at times
Maxwell- same as Molyneux
Faal- early miss seem to effect him. Lacked the enthusiasm quite a lot. Good goal but that’s all really
Ironside- tried but not a lot of joy. Fouled a lot as usual and as usual nothing from ref
Rowe- put the effort in and harassed
Hurst- done well, shame he it the post

Only my view. Open game. Credit that they kept going. Don’t mind losing when they try. Just at times things went wrong
The fans- superb today a part from a few idiots singing we always lose and three guys trying to pick on young fans of our own. Then one of the idiot of the three threw a bottle down the stand at our own fans
The ref. Say no more

[drfchound]

Jones- awesome today. No fault at any goals.some might disagree especially first one. There forward nearly headed the ball which he didn’t hence why it went in. Similar to closes goal at FGR. Made some great saves
Nixon- not on it today. Should have gone of at half time
Anderson- caught out a lot in first half. Seemed to get better second half
Olowu- torrid time today. The right hand side of there team were fast and good. Kept going so credit
Bailey- changed position to many times in first half. Better in defence in my opinion
Close- difficult game. Missed Westbrooke
Broadbent- went missing a bit in first half. Great ball to Faal. More involved second half
Molyneux- fantastic as always. Lacked support at times
Maxwell- same as Molyneux
Faal- early miss seem to effect him. Lacked the enthusiasm quite a lot. Good goal but that’s all really
Ironside- tried but not a lot of joy. Fouled a lot as usual and as usual nothing from ref
Rowe- put the effort in and harassed
Hurst- done well, shame he it the post

Only my view. Open game. Credit that they kept going. Don’t mind losing when they try. Just at times things went wrong
The fans- superb today a part from a few idiots singing we always lose and three guys trying to pick on young fans of our own. Then one of the idiot of the three threw a bottle down the stand at our own fans
The ref. Say no more

Quite a good summary there Spilsby, but I have to say that although Faal wasn’t at his best he was still good and probably our best goal threat.