Free Breakfast for Fletcher MP

[Herbert Anchovy]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

I'm with you on that LDR - I also wonder how many staff working at DRI are 'immigrants'? If it's anything like the hospitals down here then it's a very significant percentage.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

Again in fairness to the MP he's campaigned quite loudly about that fact aswell.

[DRFC_AjA]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

"Underfunded" because of or as a result of.........?

My local soup kitchen got fuller and fuller but there was no cheque book to keep constantly feeding the influx of users. Therefore its in a bad way, its full, the staff can't keep up, yet the country keeps importing poverty on a daily basis. My soup kitchen is in a bad way because its "underfunded" ?? Orrrrrr because of the other obvious reason

[tyke1962]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

"Underfunded" because of or as a result of.........?

My local soup kitchen got fuller and fuller but there was no cheque book to keep constantly feeding the influx of users. Therefore its in a bad way, its full, the staff can't keep up, yet the country keeps importing poverty on a daily basis. My soup kitchen is in a bad way because its "underfunded" ?? Orrrrrr because of the other obvious reason

There are many debates that you can have on the level of immigration that the country's had in the last 20 years .

You can have cultural debates , shared values debates , assimilating debates and you can even have national security debates .

Economic debates and immigration is the weakest one you can choose .

It's an economic benefit , there's no case to answer .

[Ldr]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

"Underfunded" because of or as a result of.........?

My local soup kitchen got fuller and fuller but there was no cheque book to keep constantly feeding the influx of users. Therefore its in a bad way, its full, the staff can't keep up, yet the country keeps importing poverty on a daily basis. My soup kitchen is in a bad way because its "underfunded" ?? Orrrrrr because of the other obvious reason

Regardless of what cause you want to blame, the facts are population has grown and infrastructure has not kept up

[Herbert Anchovy]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

"Underfunded" because of or as a result of.........?

My local soup kitchen got fuller and fuller but there was no cheque book to keep constantly feeding the influx of users. Therefore its in a bad way, its full, the staff can't keep up, yet the country keeps importing poverty on a daily basis. My soup kitchen is in a bad way because its "underfunded" ?? Orrrrrr because of the other obvious reason

Regardless of what cause you want to blame, the facts are population has grown and infrastructure has not kept up

If only we'd let the immigrants work and pay taxes instead of paying to put them up in hotels!

[Sprotyrover]

Have a look at very recent Swedish History, 98% of the immigrants they let in are on Benefits, they are unable to work in most Blue Shirt Industries and have failed to intregrate!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Have a look at very recent Swedish History, 98% of the immigrants they let in are on Benefits, they are unable to work in most Blue Shirt Industries and have failed to intregrate!

You got a source for that number?

[tyke1962]

Have a look at very recent Swedish History, 98% of the immigrants they let in are on Benefits, they are unable to work in most Blue Shirt Industries and have failed to intregrate!

I think what's happened in Sweden is as good an example as there is that planning , due diligence and actually having a jobs market available for migrants to tap in to is absolutely imperative and to not do anything of those things is actually dangerous .

The doing of the right thing in Sweden's case was absolutely nothing of the sort .

Different to the UK of course whose job's market is rammed with low skill and of course low paid work but even then it's regional rather than the country per se .

[Sprotyrover]

Have a look at very recent Swedish History, 98% of the immigrants they let in are on Benefits, they are unable to work in most Blue Shirt Industries and have failed to intregrate!

You got a source for that number?

Not found it yet but this is an enlightening read! Swedish PM admits failure of integrating migrants, laments society becoming “too weak”
https://migrants.news/2022-05-10-swedish-pm-admits-failure-to-integrate-migrants.html

[BillyStubbsTears]

Sorry Sproty. Matter of principle here. I'm not going on a website called Migrants.News that refuses to let me choose to block their use of my personal data.

[DRFC_AjA]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

"Underfunded" because of or as a result of.........?

My local soup kitchen got fuller and fuller but there was no cheque book to keep constantly feeding the influx of users. Therefore its in a bad way, its full, the staff can't keep up, yet the country keeps importing poverty on a daily basis. My soup kitchen is in a bad way because its "underfunded" ?? Orrrrrr because of the other obvious reason

Regardless of what cause you want to blame, the facts are population has grown and infrastructure has not kept up

And therefore one thing you can do is??? Stop the importing of poverty? Stop the importing of uneducated unskilled even unidentifiable people

[BillyStubbsTears]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

"Underfunded" because of or as a result of.........?

My local soup kitchen got fuller and fuller but there was no cheque book to keep constantly feeding the influx of users. Therefore its in a bad way, its full, the staff can't keep up, yet the country keeps importing poverty on a daily basis. My soup kitchen is in a bad way because its "underfunded" ?? Orrrrrr because of the other obvious reason

Regardless of what cause you want to blame, the facts are population has grown and infrastructure has not kept up

And therefore one thing you can do is??? Stop the importing of poverty? Stop the importing of uneducated unskilled even unidentifiable people

The one thing you can do is vote out the Kitsons who imposed the spending cuts then blamed The Other.

Somehow, I suspect you'd prefer just to blame The Other.

[DRFC_AjA]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

"Underfunded" because of or as a result of.........?

My local soup kitchen got fuller and fuller but there was no cheque book to keep constantly feeding the influx of users. Therefore its in a bad way, its full, the staff can't keep up, yet the country keeps importing poverty on a daily basis. My soup kitchen is in a bad way because its "underfunded" ?? Orrrrrr because of the other obvious reason

There are many debates that you can have on the level of immigration that the country's had in the last 20 years .

You can have cultural debates , shared values debates , assimilating debates and you can even have national security debates .

Economic debates and immigration is the weakest one you can choose .

It's an economic benefit , there's no case to answer .

Indeed we do need more uber eats drivers, houses of multiple occupancy and our good folk at the housing association getting over time. I for one do wish we had more uneducated and unidentified people coming in

[DRFC_AjA]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

"Underfunded" because of or as a result of.........?

My local soup kitchen got fuller and fuller but there was no cheque book to keep constantly feeding the influx of users. Therefore its in a bad way, its full, the staff can't keep up, yet the country keeps importing poverty on a daily basis. My soup kitchen is in a bad way because its "underfunded" ?? Orrrrrr because of the other obvious reason

Regardless of what cause you want to blame, the facts are population has grown and infrastructure has not kept up

If only we'd let the immigrants work and pay taxes instead of paying to put them up in hotels!

Aka modern day slavery. They wouldnt earn enough to pay taxes and if only wed put oir own homeless in hotels. Ah the farmers constantly complaining that "the British don't want the jobs" read: the Brits don't want to live ten to a house and paid peanuts

[DRFC_AjA]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

"Underfunded" because of or as a result of.........?

My local soup kitchen got fuller and fuller but there was no cheque book to keep constantly feeding the influx of users. Therefore its in a bad way, its full, the staff can't keep up, yet the country keeps importing poverty on a daily basis. My soup kitchen is in a bad way because its "underfunded" ?? Orrrrrr because of the other obvious reason

Regardless of what cause you want to blame, the facts are population has grown and infrastructure has not kept up

And therefore one thing you can do is??? Stop the importing of poverty? Stop the importing of uneducated unskilled even unidentifiable people

The one thing you can do is vote out the Kitsons who imposed the spending cuts then blamed The Other.

Somehow, I suspect you'd prefer just to blame The Other.

There's a finite amount of money. The money that should have gone to my soup kitchen had to go to free health care and accommodation for others, again imported poverty. And yes some of that money was simply wasted by red tape, beuraucacy, and terrible management. But again again again why import poverty when you already have enough of your own

[SydneyRover]

Better supported soup kitchens ....... and more of them


Vote tory

[BillyStubbsTears]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

"Underfunded" because of or as a result of.........?

My local soup kitchen got fuller and fuller but there was no cheque book to keep constantly feeding the influx of users. Therefore its in a bad way, its full, the staff can't keep up, yet the country keeps importing poverty on a daily basis. My soup kitchen is in a bad way because its "underfunded" ?? Orrrrrr because of the other obvious reason

Regardless of what cause you want to blame, the facts are population has grown and infrastructure has not kept up

And therefore one thing you can do is??? Stop the importing of poverty? Stop the importing of uneducated unskilled even unidentifiable people

The one thing you can do is vote out the Kitsons who imposed the spending cuts then blamed The Other.

Somehow, I suspect you'd prefer just to blame The Other.

There's a finite amount of money. The money that should have gone to my soup kitchen had to go to free health care and accommodation for others, again imported poverty. And yes some of that money was simply wasted by red tape, beuraucacy, and terrible management. But again again again why import poverty when you already have enough of your own

And that's a perfect example of how fascism takes hold.

[drfchound]

Amazing how fascism and racism are consistently mentioned by some people.

[tyke1962]

DRI is an inadequate resource for the population served, that’s a fact. Underfunding is underpinning this. Anything else thrown around is smoke and mirrors

"Underfunded" because of or as a result of.........?

My local soup kitchen got fuller and fuller but there was no cheque book to keep constantly feeding the influx of users. Therefore its in a bad way, its full, the staff can't keep up, yet the country keeps importing poverty on a daily basis. My soup kitchen is in a bad way because its "underfunded" ?? Orrrrrr because of the other obvious reason

There are many debates that you can have on the level of immigration that the country's had in the last 20 years .

You can have cultural debates , shared values debates , assimilating debates and you can even have national security debates .

Economic debates and immigration is the weakest one you can choose .

It's an economic benefit , there's no case to answer .

Indeed we do need more uber eats drivers, houses of multiple occupancy and our good folk at the housing association getting over time. I for one do wish we had more uneducated and unidentified people coming in

Well you can disrespect the jobs migrant workers do , the conditions they live in and even question their education but the facts are that there is a differential of plus 64% on taxes migrants pay and benefits claimed .

There's also the not so small matter that migrant workers who come to work in the UK haven't had their education paid for by the UK state .

That's a colossal amount of money saved by governments when migrant workers go straight to work in the UK and pay taxation whilst adding to the value of the economy with the wages they earn .

It isn't as straightforward as you'd like it to be .

[Sprotyrover]

Amazing how fascism and racism are consistently mentioned by some people.

Do you mean our resident LeftifasciNazis?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Amazing how fascism and racism are consistently mentioned by some people.

Do you mean our resident LeftifasciNazis?

What Hound and Sproty are not getting here is that I'm not using "fascism" as an insult. More as a warning.

This IS how fascism comes about.

Economic mismanagement is the start.

You make horrifically bad economic decisions.

The economy doesn't work properly.

People work harder but get poorer.

Then demagogues on the far right come along and tell you it's all the fault of those dirty, nasty, thieving foreigners.

It's happened time after time.

You think it can't happen here? Look at the way the extremists in the Tory party, and Farage's rabble are trying to play this. No acknowledgement of the disaster of economic policy we've had for 13 years. Just egging people on to blame immigration.

[DRFC_AjA]

Amazing how fascism and racism are consistently mentioned by some people.

Do you mean our resident LeftifasciNazis?

What Hound and Sproty are not getting here is that I'm not using "fascism" as an insult. More as a warning.

This IS how fascism comes about.

Economic mismanagement is the start.

You make horrifically bad economic decisions.

The economy doesn't work properly.

People work harder but get poorer.

Then demagogues on the far right come along and tell you it's all the fault of those dirty, nasty, thieving foreigners.

It's happened time after time.

You think it can't happen here? Look at the way the extremists in the Tory party, and Farage's rabble are trying to play this. No acknowledgement of the disaster of economic policy we've had for 13 years. Just egging people on to blame immigration.

I actually genuinely agree with you on the fact that our government(s) have created many issues themselves, social welfare and the NHS are broken systems. Not them mucky foreigners as you say, the government messed it up.

Similarly you don't need to convince me that we need more NHS workers, more students, craftsmen, business owners, and people in general from all over the world. I've lived abroad and always worked in an industry that flourishes due to the mix of educated individuals from various nationalities.

But why does anyone who just doesn't want to add to the pile need to be nazid or fascismsed. Why does anyone who just want legal immigration which does add to an economy and multiculturalism get n and f worded? What is the argument in favour of importing poverty via boats and/or having a meltdown when people say enough is enough specifically in relation to that?

[SydneyRover]

Amazing how fascism and racism are consistently mentioned by some people.

Do you mean our resident LeftifasciNazis?

What Hound and Sproty are not getting here is that I'm not using "fascism" as an insult. More as a warning.

This IS how fascism comes about.

Economic mismanagement is the start.

You make horrifically bad economic decisions.

The economy doesn't work properly.

People work harder but get poorer.

Then demagogues on the far right come along and tell you it's all the fault of those dirty, nasty, thieving foreigners.

It's happened time after time.

You think it can't happen here? Look at the way the extremists in the Tory party, and Farage's rabble are trying to play this. No acknowledgement of the disaster of economic policy we've had for 13 years. Just egging people on to blame immigration.

I actually genuinely agree with you on the fact that our government(s) have created many issues themselves, social welfare and the NHS are broken systems. Not them mucky foreigners as you say, the government messed it up.

Similarly you don't need to convince me that we need more NHS workers, more students, craftsmen, business owners, and people in general from all over the world. I've lived abroad and always worked in an industry that flourishes due to the mix of educated individuals from various nationalities.

But why does anyone who just doesn't want to add to the pile need to be nazid or fascismsed. Why does anyone who just want legal immigration which does add to an economy and multiculturalism get n and f worded? What is the argument in favour of importing poverty via boats and/or having a meltdown when people say enough is enough specifically in relation to that?

[/b]

Looking at the problem in pure economic terms as you are saying, is small beer, but it still gives the gov't exactly what it wants by feeding the populist far right.

Condemn it but don't amplify it.

[SydneyRover]

If anyone wants to put the relatively small cost of looking after refugees into perspective start searching around for the amounts of money held in tax havens and revenue lost to tax evasion.

[tyke1962]

I just want immigration done better and I'm appalled that over 17k asylum seekers have simply vanished and nobody knows where they are .

Do I think the levels of immigration we are accepting today are sustainable over the years to come ? , I wouldn't have thought so .

Do I think having an economy that relies on having huge supplies of cheap Labour is a good thing ? , no I don't .

Some balance , competence and common sense is what most people are looking for today with immigration .

[Ldr]

If you cut to the chase and explore people’s fears, immigration isn’t the problem, perception of integration is, and this latent fear is what is been exploited by chancers

[DRFC_AjA]

Amazing how fascism and racism are consistently mentioned by some people.

Do you mean our resident LeftifasciNazis?

What Hound and Sproty are not getting here is that I'm not using "fascism" as an insult. More as a warning.

This IS how fascism comes about.

Economic mismanagement is the start.

You make horrifically bad economic decisions.

The economy doesn't work properly.

People work harder but get poorer.

Then demagogues on the far right come along and tell you it's all the fault of those dirty, nasty, thieving foreigners.

It's happened time after time.

You think it can't happen here? Look at the way the extremists in the Tory party, and Farage's rabble are trying to play this. No acknowledgement of the disaster of economic policy we've had for 13 years. Just egging people on to blame immigration.

I actually genuinely agree with you on the fact that our government(s) have created many issues themselves, social welfare and the NHS are broken systems. Not them mucky foreigners as you say, the government messed it up.

Similarly you don't need to convince me that we need more NHS workers, more students, craftsmen, business owners, and people in general from all over the world. I've lived abroad and always worked in an industry that flourishes due to the mix of educated individuals from various nationalities.

But why does anyone who just doesn't want to add to the pile need to be nazid or fascismsed. Why does anyone who just want legal immigration which does add to an economy and multiculturalism get n and f worded? What is the argument in favour of importing poverty via boats and/or having a meltdown when people say enough is enough specifically in relation to that?

[/b]

Looking at the problem in pure economic terms as you are saying, is small beer, but it still gives the gov't exactly what it wants by feeding the populist far right.

Condemn it but don't amplify it.

Still can't give me one reason can you. One, just one, reason in favour of undocumented, uneducated, unANYTHING migrants. Not the educated that we need for the NHS, not the skilled that we need to build houses. The importation of poverty. Just one

[SydneyRover]

Compassion and humanity from the 7th wealthiest country in the world, there you go there's two.

edit

oops, a small error there make that 5th out of 195.

(btw, try and humour tyke, he's had a chip on his shoulder since the early eighties)

[tyke1962]

Compassion and humanity from the 7th wealthiest country in the world, there you go there's two.

That's just about the laziest reply you can offer .