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ravenrover

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I didn't break any law
« on December 17, 2023, 01:52:41 pm by ravenrover »
I just lied to the press, but everybody knew.
I only had threatening legal letters denying it to stop it being printed
I did it to protect my family
It's my husbands money it's not mine
The money is in Trusts for both our families
I will not benefit from any of it, but I might/will benefit from it if he dies
It's not my yacht
I can't see what we have done wrong
My husbands just a profiteering spiv, no sorry she didn't actually say that
« Last Edit: December 17, 2023, 03:56:32 pm by ravenrover »



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roversdude

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Re: I didn't break any law
« Reply #1 on December 17, 2023, 08:18:30 pm by roversdude »
Cronyism at its best. No doubt any investigation will sweep it under the carpet. Was this the PPE that was not fit for purpose?

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #2 on December 17, 2023, 09:46:54 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Apart from the "unfit for purpose" aspect of this...and the cronyism aspect of this...and the lies from a peer of the realm (yeah...I know) about this, I'll tell you what really f**ks me off.

We desperately needed PPE at that time. The Govt was absolutely right to fast track contracts.

But (I dunno, maybe it's me being naive) you expect a level of morality from the suppliers. Not a "Wey-HEY!!! Look how much we could make here!" attitude.

This was a time of national emergency. If we are ever truly a nation with shared interests, it's at a moment like that.

Then you get this pair of utter shits for souls putting in a tender with a profit margin of 30%. Thirty f**king percent! On a £200m contract. They took £200m from all of us, for something that they knew they could deliver for £140m.

What sort of moral obscenity do you have to be to do that, in a moment when the key thing was that we all pulled together?

BillyStubbsTears

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« Reply #3 on December 17, 2023, 10:00:53 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
And then that awful woman wails that the only thing she's done wrong is to lie to the Press. They truly live in a moral universe that I don't understand.

How the f**k do you live with yourself after acting like that?

SydneyRover

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Re: I didn't break any law
« Reply #4 on December 17, 2023, 11:18:08 pm by SydneyRover »
''Transforming public procurement-December 2020

''Corruption in public procurement 25.Corruption in public procurement is a crime. It wastes public resources and leads to inefficient procurement. Public procurement is susceptible to corruption due to the large sums of money involved and the large volume of contracts. To prevent procurement corruption, the reforms to the procurement regime will be based on transparency, competition and objective criteria in decision-making. They will support transparency and accountability in the management of public finances, including budgeting, reporting on government revenue, expenditure and performance, auditing and risk management. The principles outlined below will underpin the regulatory framework and demonstrate our commitment to tackling corruption in public procurement by ensuring open, transparent, non-discriminatory behaviours and processes are the foundation of procurement''

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SydneyRover

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Re: I didn't break any law
« Reply #5 on December 17, 2023, 11:36:06 pm by SydneyRover »
UK governments frequently look at overhauling procurement and supply issues due to the massive amounts of around 290bn quid being spent. The cameron government was no different and set in motion a review, presumably to get better value.

This continued right up to when covid hit.

''Government procurement in the United Kingdom''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_procurement_in_the_United_Kingdom


Donnywolf

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Re: I didn't break any law
« Reply #6 on December 18, 2023, 06:24:24 am by Donnywolf »


And then that awful woman wails that the only thing she's done wrong is to lie to the Press. They truly live in a moral universe that I don't understand.

How the f**k do you live with yourself after acting like that?

Similar to Shapps who got caught when it was NOT legal to have another job when an MP

So he got round that by calling himself Michael Green , or Sebastian Fox or Corinne Stockheath and of course continued with a 2nd job

He flatly denied it of course ... and here's the parallel with Mone ... when finally exposed he said his only wrongdoing was "to over firmly denying having 2 jobs"

And this cnut IS still in the Government of this Country overseeing US . Please tell me anyone (seriously) how can that be ok ?


EDIT ... Posted supporting Link.earlier but in Wordle  :sick:


It's here now https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/03/16/grant-shapps-michael-green_n_6876000.html
« Last Edit: December 18, 2023, 05:13:08 pm by Donnywolf »

Colin C No.3

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« Reply #7 on December 18, 2023, 11:04:02 am by Colin C No.3 »
It’s far from ok but take heart, there’ll be a General Election next year when we have the opportunity to leave these ba***reds wandering in the wilderness for decades.

Bristol Red Rover

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Re: I didn't break any law
« Reply #8 on December 18, 2023, 01:17:00 pm by Bristol Red Rover »
They need jail time not wilderness,  though dropping them in the Antarctic with a cardboard box, sleeping bag, begging bowl and a dingy could be satisfying.

RobTheRover

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Re: I didn't break any law
« Reply #9 on December 18, 2023, 07:25:43 pm by RobTheRover »
I work in Public Procurement. The government issued a PPN (Procurement Policy Notice) to suspend many of the Public Contract Regulations 2015 requirements in the interests of expediency. The opportunist criminals saw this as a green light to do what they liked with no regulatory control.

Thats all they are, opportunist criminals. No different to a burglar.  Remind me how courts view burglary please.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: I didn't break any law
« Reply #10 on December 18, 2023, 08:37:52 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
I work in Public Procurement. The government issued a PPN (Procurement Policy Notice) to suspend many of the Public Contract Regulations 2015 requirements in the interests of expediency. The opportunist criminals saw this as a green light to do what they liked with no regulatory control.

Thats all they are, opportunist criminals. No different to a burglar.  Remind me how courts view burglary please.

I think you've got it nailed there Rob. It's like a local wrong un knowing that someone's house is empty because they've been taken to hospital, and burgling their house.

It's the rank, amoral opportunism that sickens me.

Nevermind the courts though. I know what would have happened to someone who pulled a stunt like that in the Denaby I grew up in.

SydneyRover

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Re: I didn't break any law
« Reply #11 on December 18, 2023, 08:59:35 pm by SydneyRover »
I work in Public Procurement. The government issued a PPN (Procurement Policy Notice) to suspend many of the Public Contract Regulations 2015 requirements in the interests of expediency. The opportunist criminals saw this as a green light to do what they liked with no regulatory control.

Thats all they are, opportunist criminals. No different to a burglar.  Remind me how courts view burglary please.

Thanks for that RoR.

1.1 The BMA welcomes the opportunity to respond to the Public Accounts Committee’s inquiry on Government procurement and contracts for Personal Protective Equipment (PPE). The Government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic has led to drastic changes in the way it has procured services due to the need to meet increased demand on services, increase testing capacity and procure the PPE needed to keep our frontline workers safe.  1.2 Access to PPE was the main concern for our members during the first wave of the pandemic, and repeated surveys on its availability and suitability found it often to be inadequate. Delegating large parts of the management of procurement processes and supply chains to a complex web of external companies has arguably left the Government less able to respond in an agile and rapid way to the dramatic increase in demand for PPE caused by the pandemic. 

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SydneyRover

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« Reply #12 on December 19, 2023, 08:26:01 am by SydneyRover »
And here you have it writ large, honour among thieves ...............

''Baroness Michelle Mone has hit back at Rishi Sunak, saying she was "honest" with the government over contracts for personal protective equipment''

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-67748301

 

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