Olowu and Anderson "injuries"

[andyst79]

You only have to look at the amount of cards rovers players have attracted in recent games to see what little fight there was, has gone.

Carrying on from last season, we're absolutely powder puff

[ravenrover]

Our defence has been proven useless all season.

It's all the more baffling that McCann set us up to camp in our own half and soak up pressure for 90 minutes, and then bemoans bad defending when we inevitably get undone.

What did he expect with these players?

Please explain what were his better options "with these players"

I thought McCann was supposed to be about a high energy, front-foot style?

Why didn't we try to getting players further up the pitch, actually try to impose ourselves and upset Notts County's rhythm?

That would make more sense than passively accepting their style and hoping for a miracle from a defence that has kept 1 clean sheet away from home all season.

I dread to think what the score would have been if we had tried this tactic with the 11 we had on the field

[pib]

Our defence has been proven useless all season.

It's all the more baffling that McCann set us up to camp in our own half and soak up pressure for 90 minutes, and then bemoans bad defending when we inevitably get undone.

What did he expect with these players?

Please explain what were his better options "with these players"

I thought McCann was supposed to be about a high energy, front-foot style?

Why didn't we try to getting players further up the pitch, actually try to impose ourselves and upset Notts County's rhythm?

That would make more sense than passively accepting their style and hoping for a miracle from a defence that has kept 1 clean sheet away from home all season.

I dread to think what the score would have been if we had tried this tactic with the 11 we had on the field

So our expectation now is to go into a game in the fourth division (and against a side in not-that-good form at that) with our only hope being keeping the score to a "respectable" 3-0 and not even making an effort to change our approach when we were clearly getting a hiding regardless?

We've obviously fallen further than I thought.

[selby]

  Get a couple in in midfield and get Faulkner and Wood in just doing what they are good at basic defending and no fancy stuff at the back bring in Flint and we could have a good side.
  Not all our players are poor, some can develop to be really good players, the mix needs to be right with some experience on tap, and the system wants tweaking to suit the players we have got, the likes of Faulkner when fit and Flint need exposure in the games to the end of the season for experience and need to play matches at first team level, they are as good  if not already better than who have been playing and will get even better, as I have said before I would play Faulkner alongside Wood and  Flint just in front as a defensive midfielder in the Whiteman role, he has the tools to do that, Faulkner to be a very good central defender, they need games to show it.

[roversdude]

Think we should have got rid of these two clowns and kept RoShaun

[selby]

  It is no good looking backwards now, we have to look forward, there is a good base at the club to build on and get it right we can move forward, and chopping and changing the management should not even be considered, but give them the tools and time to do their job, and nobody gets all things right in this game even Manchester City sign players costing millions who do not fit in.
  The main aims now are keep clear of trouble, and if possible have a go at the EFL trophy which is a free hit for us being complete outsiders, but all the time use until the end of the season with a view to being stronger and challengers next season and shake those here not up to it out.

[Canadian Rover]

Think we should have got rid of these two clowns and kept RoShaun

Getting rid of two poor centre halves and replacing them with a poorer one certainly is not the way to progress.

We still have Faulkner and hopefully Wood to come into the team, as I mentioned previously Olowu has some good attributes but certainly lacks in concentration and positional sense that centre halves require. All we need in league two (and even in league one) are two solid centre halves that will throw themselves at every ball into the box and have a bit of toughness and bravery...add in robustness and pace and you have it made (Faulkner).

[roversdude]

Sorry should have clarified that my comment was tongue in cheek
I still think there is a player in Olowu but Anderson has cost us so many goals this season
Definitely a starting berth for Bobby in my opinion - anyone know when he’s due back

[RugbyRover]

Olowu should never play centre back for Rovers again, that's for certain.

He's not a defender by nature, doesn't have a defenders instinct.

But maybe he could be our missing DM 

He looks to have all the physical attributes needed and his lack of concentration wouldn't be so destructive.

Clutching at straws maybe but I'd be giving it a go in training if I were the manager.

[Butchers Red]

Olowu should never play centre back for Rovers again, that's for certain.

He's not a defender by nature, doesn't have a defenders instinct.

But maybe he could be our missing DM 

He looks to have all the physical attributes needed and his lack of concentration wouldn't be so destructive.

Clutching at straws maybe but I'd be giving it a go in training if I were the manager.

100% agree with that - the lad comes across well and is never sullen or downbeat - but simply does not have the nouse to be a  good central defender.

What he does have is mobility, a good touch with both feet, decent passing range and good in the air when attacking the ball ,I've seen a few games when he's driven forward and looked comfortable.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Olowu should never play centre back for Rovers again, that's for certain.

He's not a defender by nature, doesn't have a defenders instinct.

But maybe he could be our missing DM 

He looks to have all the physical attributes needed and his lack of concentration wouldn't be so destructive.

Clutching at straws maybe but I'd be giving it a go in training if I were the manager.

Have you seen how he reacts when he's pressed with the ball at his feet?

[danumdon]

Like others have said you can't sit on sentiment in this game.

Anderson has been a player for us, at his peak he was dominant and challenging at both ends of the pitch, not the most vocal of leaders but never the less led by example. It's sad to see his demise but it's now at the stage where we shudder at every corner and dead ball situation as you just know we will be picking the ball out of the net, again.

Olowu is another who has the potential to be very good, unfortunately for us its never likely to be realised in a defence that's always on the back foot, agile in body but sadly not in mind, always likely to have a mistake in him due to a lack of concentration, maybe he just does not read the game well enough, that second goal at County was a perfect example if we ever needed it, in all intents he should of been the first to the ball across the box (after Lawlor had left it) everything should of gone the ball, attacker, even the goalie if he was their instead what happened?, i still can't get my head around it, when i think of some of the centre half's we've had in the past and what they would of done!

We have massive problems in the centre of defence, These two are just not up for it, (GM's favoured pair) Wood is not rated by the management, Long was never given the chance after first viewing and for some reason Faulkner has never been given the opportunity for a decent run in the side when it just looks at this time he should be some part of the solution to out issues. Flint who has impressed me with his attitude, determination and application to the cause, he looks like he could make a good fist of playing at centre half or a holding midfielder with very good potential.

We are relying on Bailey and Senior who both have development potential (possibly not mainly at CH) but we need better. Whenever we play in this league against the likes of a Cook, Smith, Wyke you need someone who can stand toe to toe and out battle them, i'd like to see Faulkner and Wood back as soon as to help us in this department, until we bring in someone better this is out lot.

[Plumbster]

Be good to see Faulkner back- I don’t think we have seen enough yet to gauge whether he is part of the solution but no doubt others are already convinced!

[drfchound]

After all the hype I just hope he cuts the mustard when he gets his chance.

[TheFunk]

If his last appearance against Mansfield is anything to go by he's definitely not the answer. Flint was far better in the same match.

[selby]

  I understand that thinking Hound, the injury and him being out and the repeated mistakes in defence by the same players game after game, and our poor team form has built up frustration in the supporters, who are thirsting for someone to come along and actually look like giving their all to the situation.
  No problems there for Bobby, what you see is what you get, and its always full on, and he is a better player than some give him credit for and is a good player in both penalty areas both defending and attacking. He needs to play as many games as possible to the end of the season along with Flint, they will get better with experience are already better than those who have repeatedly made mistakes not just this season but the last three seasons. I think I could stand the odd mistake from anyone who comes in now learning the game.

[GazLaz]

If Olowu does have a move lined up it does explain the recent awful performances. He’s was ok last season, less good this. Likely to be decent in a more functional team.

[Dutch Uncle]

According to Grant's interview Olowu is OK for tomorrow, and Faulkner likely to be involved (my guess bench).

Anderson and Flint not available tomorrow, minor niggles (hopefully not the type that so often have turned into season enders in  DN4  )

[selby]

  All the back four including Flint that night in the first half hour were all over the place mostly because Olowu who was central and the mid field in front of them were having their backsides  ripped out.
 But you have a go at the lad Funk, I seem to remember the same game just before his injury Bobby having enough of Olowu when he tackled Bobby and getting a right going over verbally.

[Dutch Uncle]

If Olowu does have a move lined up it does explain the recent awful performances. He’s was ok last season, less good this. Likely to be decent in a more functional team.

I am beginning to think the 'big departure' might be Faal, his game has certainly dropped. Might just be 2 +2 = 5

[GazLaz]

If Olowu does have a move lined up it does explain the recent awful performances. He’s was ok last season, less good this. Likely to be decent in a more functional team.

I am beginning to think the 'big departure' might be Faal, his game has certainly dropped. Might just be 2 +2 = 5

I think there will be more than one.

[selby]

  Molly?

[DonnyBazR0ver]

If Olowu does have a move lined up it does explain the recent awful performances. He’s was ok last season, less good this. Likely to be decent in a more functional team.

I am beginning to think the 'big departure' might be Faal, his game has certainly dropped. Might just be 2 +2 = 5

The way things have degenerated and the fans turning on the players, it wouldn't surprise me if Faal begs WBA to get him out of here!

So anyway, where have the rumours of a 'big departure' originated from?

[drfchound]

Our lot who boo the players and sing “not fit to wear the shirt” probably aren’t bright enough to understand that it might piss off the better players.

[Dutch Uncle]

If Olowu does have a move lined up it does explain the recent awful performances. He’s was ok last season, less good this. Likely to be decent in a more functional team.

I am beginning to think the 'big departure' might be Faal, his game has certainly dropped. Might just be 2 +2 = 5

The way things have degenerated and the fans turning on the players, it wouldn't surprise me if Faal begs WBA to get him out of here!

So anyway, where have the rumours of a 'big departure' originated from?

I saw an article about a week back (maybe Yorkshire Post?) talking about priorities in the January window and claiming a 'big departure' in the works

[The Beast]

I think whoever you put in defence will struggle until we get a proper mester or two in that midfield. Anderson looks shot and Joe’s confidence has gone, Wood looked all over the place when he played earlier in the season and for me there’s no evidence to suggest that Faulkner is the answer, at least at the moment.

[BillyStubbsTears]

If Olowu does have a move lined up it does explain the recent awful performances. He’s was ok last season, less good this. Likely to be decent in a more functional team.

I am beginning to think the 'big departure' might be Faal, his game has certainly dropped. Might just be 2 +2 = 5

The way things have degenerated and the fans turning on the players, it wouldn't surprise me if Faal begs WBA to get him out of here!

So anyway, where have the rumours of a 'big departure' originated from?

I saw an article about a week back (maybe Yorkshire Post?) talking about priorities in the January window and claiming a 'big departure' in the works

Difficult to think of anyone in the squad who we would be prepared to let go, and who is also good enough to garner interest from other clubs.

[ncRover]

If Olowu does have a move lined up it does explain the recent awful performances. He’s was ok last season, less good this. Likely to be decent in a more functional team.

I am beginning to think the 'big departure' might be Faal, his game has certainly dropped. Might just be 2 +2 = 5

The way things have degenerated and the fans turning on the players, it wouldn't surprise me if Faal begs WBA to get him out of here!

So anyway, where have the rumours of a 'big departure' originated from?

I saw an article about a week back (maybe Yorkshire Post?) talking about priorities in the January window and claiming a 'big departure' in the works

Difficult to think of anyone in the squad who we would be prepared to let go, and who is also good enough to garner interest from other clubs.

Close.

6 months left on his contract and I highly doubt he’d want to sign another with us as he’s from down south and his experience here won’t have been fun in the slightest.

[mushRTID]

If Olowu does have a move lined up it does explain the recent awful performances. He’s was ok last season, less good this. Likely to be decent in a more functional team.

I am beginning to think the 'big departure' might be Faal, his game has certainly dropped. Might just be 2 +2 = 5

The way things have degenerated and the fans turning on the players, it wouldn't surprise me if Faal begs WBA to get him out of here!

So anyway, where have the rumours of a 'big departure' originated from?

I saw an article about a week back (maybe Yorkshire Post?) talking about priorities in the January window and claiming a 'big departure' in the works

Difficult to think of anyone in the squad who we would be prepared to let go, and who is also good enough to garner interest from other clubs.

Close.

6 months left on his contract and I highly doubt he’d want to sign another with us as he’s from down south and his experience here won’t have been fun in the slightest.

Maybe something similar to Knoyle where we take a small fee now rather than get nothing in the summer.

After Biggins he’d be the next I’d get rid of anyway. Never took to him.

[selby]

  Moly out of contract at the end of the season, looks to be cruising a bit of late, if he has indicated he will not stay and a club came in and offered a fee?
  All guess work, but I think feasible and hope I am wrong. Faal back to his parent club again I hope not., and would be a significant loss, and about the only two I think would attract other clubs at this time of the year.
  Close could want away Billy, would he really be missed?  and his wages could be used better.