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I only know of the one from Bolton, who's the other?
The other is the one who has been in the Rumours Mill for weeks but you probably need to subscribe to the Vikings Supporters Club as I have to get that level of access to information. It is another way to support the club and to recognize the value of this forum.
So we sign the Magna Carty on Wednesday then.
Signing development players is all well and good but we already have a huge squad and need players to improve us here and now.
Quote from: GazLaz on January 02, 2024, 02:23:48 pmSigning development players is all well and good but we already have a huge squad and need players to improve us here and now. Players at the age of 20 onwards for me need to be good enough to step into a League 2 first team and not look out of place. Obviously they are still learning on the job but, they need to be showing enough ability and physicality that the league demands. Having already played in mens football at 20 in my opinion would be good recruitment. Barely kicking a ball out on loan or looking the part for a few years in the youth team is not what we need.
Quote from: StocksArmy on January 02, 2024, 03:04:10 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 02, 2024, 02:23:48 pmSigning development players is all well and good but we already have a huge squad and need players to improve us here and now. Players at the age of 20 onwards for me need to be good enough to step into a League 2 first team and not look out of place. Obviously they are still learning on the job but, they need to be showing enough ability and physicality that the league demands. Having already played in mens football at 20 in my opinion would be good recruitment. Barely kicking a ball out on loan or looking the part for a few years in the youth team is not what we need.The amount of 20 year olds that contribute above league average performances consistently in L2 (any division for that matter) is very very minimal. I did some research on it a couple of years ago (that I think I shared with the club!?). Players of that age need carefully managing in relation to the minutes they get and can’t be brought in with an expectation of starting every week and being dependable. It’s probably not going to happen.
Quote from: GazLaz on January 02, 2024, 03:16:26 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on January 02, 2024, 03:04:10 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 02, 2024, 02:23:48 pmSigning development players is all well and good but we already have a huge squad and need players to improve us here and now. Players at the age of 20 onwards for me need to be good enough to step into a League 2 first team and not look out of place. Obviously they are still learning on the job but, they need to be showing enough ability and physicality that the league demands. Having already played in mens football at 20 in my opinion would be good recruitment. Barely kicking a ball out on loan or looking the part for a few years in the youth team is not what we need.The amount of 20 year olds that contribute above league average performances consistently in L2 (any division for that matter) is very very minimal. I did some research on it a couple of years ago (that I think I shared with the club!?). Players of that age need carefully managing in relation to the minutes they get and can’t be brought in with an expectation of starting every week and being dependable. It’s probably not going to happen. I just look at the players we have had in the past who people were excited about and they never made it. I look at what we have now and many wont agree but, im not confident Faulkner, Goodman Kuleya are good enough to make a career in the football league. Faulkner has a chance but there is a reason he has not played as much football as some fans think he should and my personal opinion is that a lot of our supporters want him in because hes a local lad, hes fully committed and people infront of him have not been performing. Again my opinion is he is not that good and bringing him into the team on previous form only puts him in the firing line for the fans to rip him a new one as his weakness's would be found out even more rather than improve the teams resulsts/ performances.
Quote from: StocksArmy on January 02, 2024, 03:55:03 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 02, 2024, 03:16:26 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on January 02, 2024, 03:04:10 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 02, 2024, 02:23:48 pmSigning development players is all well and good but we already have a huge squad and need players to improve us here and now. Players at the age of 20 onwards for me need to be good enough to step into a League 2 first team and not look out of place. Obviously they are still learning on the job but, they need to be showing enough ability and physicality that the league demands. Having already played in mens football at 20 in my opinion would be good recruitment. Barely kicking a ball out on loan or looking the part for a few years in the youth team is not what we need.The amount of 20 year olds that contribute above league average performances consistently in L2 (any division for that matter) is very very minimal. I did some research on it a couple of years ago (that I think I shared with the club!?). Players of that age need carefully managing in relation to the minutes they get and can’t be brought in with an expectation of starting every week and being dependable. It’s probably not going to happen. I just look at the players we have had in the past who people were excited about and they never made it. I look at what we have now and many wont agree but, im not confident Faulkner, Goodman Kuleya are good enough to make a career in the football league. Faulkner has a chance but there is a reason he has not played as much football as some fans think he should and my personal opinion is that a lot of our supporters want him in because hes a local lad, hes fully committed and people infront of him have not been performing. Again my opinion is he is not that good and bringing him into the team on previous form only puts him in the firing line for the fans to rip him a new one as his weakness's would be found out even more rather than improve the teams resulsts/ performances.Watch out for incoming
The 2 players rumoured are attack and central defence. I hope the MoJo partnership will still be together, come end of season, but if it does terminate this month, we need to attackers signing if GM wants 3 in the squad.
Quote from: Alan Southstand on January 02, 2024, 03:57:51 pmThe 2 players rumoured are attack and central defence. I hope the MoJo partnership will still be together, come end of season, but if it does terminate this month, we need to attackers signing if GM wants 3 in the squad.We will sign a centre mid I’m sure.
Charlie Lakin in as a Crawford type player in midfield? Left footed so could slot in in the place of Rowe as a useful squad player but his legs would be very useful in this press.6 months left at Burton.
Quote from: StocksArmy on January 02, 2024, 03:04:10 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 02, 2024, 02:23:48 pmSigning development players is all well and good but we already have a huge squad and need players to improve us here and now. Players at the age of 20 onwards for me need to be good enough to step into a League 2 first team and not look out of place. Obviously they are still learning on the job but, they need to be showing enough ability and physicality that the league demands. Having already played in mens football at 20 in my opinion would be good recruitment. Barely kicking a ball out on loan or looking the part for a few years in the youth team is not what we need.The amount of 20 year olds that contribute above league average performances consistently in L2 (any division for that matter) is very very minimal. I did some research on it a couple of years ago (that I think I shared with the club!?).
Quote from: graingrover on January 02, 2024, 11:18:57 amThe other is the one who has been in the Rumours Mill for weeks but you probably need to subscribe to the Vikings Supporters Club as I have to get that level of access to information. It is another way to support the club and to recognize the value of this forum.No you don’t it’s been all over X (Twitter) the past week
Quote from: GazLaz on January 02, 2024, 03:16:26 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on January 02, 2024, 03:04:10 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 02, 2024, 02:23:48 pmSigning development players is all well and good but we already have a huge squad and need players to improve us here and now. Players at the age of 20 onwards for me need to be good enough to step into a League 2 first team and not look out of place. Obviously they are still learning on the job but, they need to be showing enough ability and physicality that the league demands. Having already played in mens football at 20 in my opinion would be good recruitment. Barely kicking a ball out on loan or looking the part for a few years in the youth team is not what we need.The amount of 20 year olds that contribute above league average performances consistently in L2 (any division for that matter) is very very minimal. I did some research on it a couple of years ago (that I think I shared with the club!?). This is the question which keeps coming back to me.Why don’t the Club ever take your advice?!I guess it will remain a mystery.
Quote from: Pancho Regan on January 02, 2024, 10:36:37 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 02, 2024, 03:16:26 pmQuote from: StocksArmy on January 02, 2024, 03:04:10 pmQuote from: GazLaz on January 02, 2024, 02:23:48 pmSigning development players is all well and good but we already have a huge squad and need players to improve us here and now. Players at the age of 20 onwards for me need to be good enough to step into a League 2 first team and not look out of place. Obviously they are still learning on the job but, they need to be showing enough ability and physicality that the league demands. Having already played in mens football at 20 in my opinion would be good recruitment. Barely kicking a ball out on loan or looking the part for a few years in the youth team is not what we need.The amount of 20 year olds that contribute above league average performances consistently in L2 (any division for that matter) is very very minimal. I did some research on it a couple of years ago (that I think I shared with the club!?). This is the question which keeps coming back to me.Why don’t the Club ever take your advice?!I guess it will remain a mystery.It’s football init. Everyone thinks THEY know best. Remember meeting, then speaking to Younger the recruitment man quote a lot. Some of the players I put up to him in that short period were quality. Not expensive players, low key, under valued lads that data models worth millions had thrown up. Didn’t want to listen really. Had an excuse not to go after any. Joe Sbarra on a free was one. Jake Young was one I passed on to Copps when he left FGR on a free. Best footballer I saw in L2 that season before FGR released him, don’t think our staff had even heard of him. Scored a million already this season. Honestly our recruitment is miles off it. I tell you what will happen this January. We will sign a centre half on loan that’s not as good as Faulkner, limiting his development, when he should be getting plenty of minutes between now and May. He’s got the potential to be really good as we know. Probably end up on loan at Gainsborough when he should be playing league football.