Brexit is the best thing that ever happened to Britain

[Sprotyrover]

What was it Jim Ratcliffe quite apologetically said recently "Brexit sort of unfortunately didn't umm.. It didn't turn out as people anticipated"

Mega Tax dodger and you quoting him as your hero, very sad!

[Not Now Kato]

Nothing to say about the Guardian link with regards to Unite then NNK.

You mean the bit about partly rowing back hound? Not much to say until full details are put forward.  Meanwhile, have you got a single tangible benefit of Brexit?

No, but then again, as I keep saying, I voted remain.
There might be some benefits though but I don’t spend all day looking for them.
As much as I was disappointed we voted to leave the EU I have accepted the outcome and unlike some, I don’t whine about it.
We have no choice (unless we re-vote) other than to accept and make the best of where we are.

It's one thing to accept a democratic vote, (it wasn't, but lets ignore that), something else entirely to accept the promises without questioning where they are!

[selby]

 And despite all the things that we do wrong according to some on here we have climbed to the fourth from seventh place biggest exporter of goods in the world in the last twelve months, and we are expected to overtake Germany shortly.
  Now that is what I call a Brexit win, obviously the BBC and the Guardian didn't tell the unwashed. The armament industry is doing exceptionally well  which I am sure will please the lefties as plane loads leave nightly, and the banking industry has more or less left Paris and other European financial centres bringing their offices back to London, in fact my mate who works for Standard Chartered has returned to this country from Amsterdam and is working from home in a lovely converted farm house just outside Oldham with fantastic views over the countryside, said Amsterdam was getting well you know Ghettoish and not a place to bring up young children.

[drfchound]

Nothing to say about the Guardian link with regards to Unite then NNK.

You mean the bit about partly rowing back hound? Not much to say until full details are put forward.  Meanwhile, have you got a single tangible benefit of Brexit?

No, but then again, as I keep saying, I voted remain.
There might be some benefits though but I don’t spend all day looking for them.
As much as I was disappointed we voted to leave the EU I have accepted the outcome and unlike some, I don’t whine about it.
We have no choice (unless we re-vote) other than to accept and make the best of where we are.

It's one thing to accept a democratic vote, (it wasn't, but lets ignore that), something else entirely to accept the promises without questioning where they are!

Why wasn't the Brexit vote a democratic one?
I haven’t accepted the promises without questioning what they are.
I have accepted the outcome of the vote.

[ravenrover]

What was it Jim Ratcliffe quite apologetically said recently "Brexit sort of unfortunately didn't umm.. It didn't turn out as people anticipated"

Mega Tax dodger and you quoting him as your hero, very sad!

Very sad to incorrectly read things into a post on a 2nd Div football forum

[Not Now Kato]

And despite all the things that we do wrong according to some on here we have climbed to the fourth from seventh place biggest exporter of goods in the world in the last twelve months, and we are expected to overtake Germany shortly.
  Now that is what I call a Brexit win, obviously the BBC and the Guardian didn't tell the unwashed. The armament industry is doing exceptionally well  which I am sure will please the lefties as plane loads leave nightly, and the banking industry has more or less left Paris and other European financial centres bringing their offices back to London, in fact my mate who works for Standard Chartered has returned to this country from Amsterdam and is working from home in a lovely converted farm house just outside Oldham with fantastic views over the countryside, said Amsterdam was getting well you know Ghettoish and not a place to bring up young children.

Got any links to those claims Selby? Because the independent appears to suggest we're in 28th place for world trade
 
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/voices-now-even-brexiteers-are-blaming-themselves-for-britain-s-economic-woes/ar-BB1mzKRx?ocid=mailsignout&pc=U591&cvid=4ab0f0530feb4be98a3df0dfe4e280bc&ei=17
 
As for financial institutes bring back services to London
 
https://www.ft.com/content/515654f1-c3a6-496f-bdf0-b4e5cb312a74
 

[Not Now Kato]

Nothing to say about the Guardian link with regards to Unite then NNK.

You mean the bit about partly rowing back hound? Not much to say until full details are put forward.  Meanwhile, have you got a single tangible benefit of Brexit?

No, but then again, as I keep saying, I voted remain.
There might be some benefits though but I don’t spend all day looking for them.
As much as I was disappointed we voted to leave the EU I have accepted the outcome and unlike some, I don’t whine about it.
We have no choice (unless we re-vote) other than to accept and make the best of where we are.

It's one thing to accept a democratic vote, (it wasn't, but lets ignore that), something else entirely to accept the promises without questioning where they are!

Why wasn't the Brexit vote a democratic one?
I haven’t accepted the promises without questioning what they are.
I have accepted the outcome of the vote.

Several reason hound. Firstly, 16 - 18 year olds, (an age group highly affected by the outcome), were barred from voting; yet the same age group were previously allowed, quite rightly, to vote on Scottish Independence in 2014, (again an age group highly affected by the outcome).  Secondly, none British EU citizens resident in the UK were also barred from voting, (another group who would be affected by the outcome).
 
Then, of course, the referendum was advisory only.  For it to be acted upon one of two things should have happened; either a second referendum detailing the full terms and implications of our leaving, (as these were not included in the first, so no one knew what they were voting for or what they would get), or for the Government to have debated the matter in Parliament and then have taken us out of the EU, fully and totally, without any form of negotiation or agreed to remain a member per the status quo - as they were the only options on the voting paper.  What actually happened was totally undemocratic.
 
But for democracy to function in such referendums it requires truthful campaigns to be run and both sides lied, one to a greater extent than the other but they both lied. For people to decide which way to cast their vote based on lies and/or exaggeration is most certainly NOT democratic.
 
Then of course there's outside interference.  Ever wondered why the Government refuses to publish the 'Russia' papers?

[selby]

  It is a report by one of your favourite non bodies Kato The United Nations Conference on Trade and Development reports they overtook Japan, The Netherlands and France.
   New you would like it, I suppose now you will toddle off and diligently look for reports that oppose their findings.

[SydneyRover]

And despite all the things that we do wrong according to some on here we have climbed to the fourth from seventh place biggest exporter of goods in the world in the last twelve months, and we are expected to overtake Germany shortly.
  Now that is what I call a Brexit win, obviously the BBC and the Guardian didn't tell the unwashed. The armament industry is doing exceptionally well  which I am sure will please the lefties as plane loads leave nightly, and the banking industry has more or less left Paris and other European financial centres bringing their offices back to London, in fact my mate who works for Standard Chartered has returned to this country from Amsterdam and is working from home in a lovely converted farm house just outside Oldham with fantastic views over the countryside, said Amsterdam was getting well you know Ghettoish and not a place to bring up young children.

Speaking of children it was only the other week you were crying like a baby claiming you didn't understand world trade or something or other because I pointed out that there are two sides to trade, exports and imports and it's the difference between the two which is the important bit. And yet here you are again posting the same gibber again.

[Not Now Kato]

  It is a report by one of your favourite non bodies Kato The United Nations Conference on Trade and Development reports they overtook Japan, The Netherlands and France.
   New you would like it, I suppose now you will toddle off and diligently look for reports that oppose their findings.

You made the claims Selby, it's up to you to post links to support them.  I already posted 2 links to show you were wrong!  Oh, and it's knew not new!

[scawsby steve]

If I don't get my own way, I'm going to thkweem and thkweem and thkweem.

[SydneyRover]

If I don't get my own way, I'm going to thkweem and thkweem and thkweem.

The same a 'liking' anything anti-labour I guess, Steve

[tyke1962]

Nothing to say about the Guardian link with regards to Unite then NNK.

You mean the bit about partly rowing back hound? Not much to say until full details are put forward.  Meanwhile, have you got a single tangible benefit of Brexit?

No, but then again, as I keep saying, I voted remain.
There might be some benefits though but I don’t spend all day looking for them.
As much as I was disappointed we voted to leave the EU I have accepted the outcome and unlike some, I don’t whine about it.
We have no choice (unless we re-vote) other than to accept and make the best of where we are.

It's one thing to accept a democratic vote, (it wasn't, but lets ignore that), something else entirely to accept the promises without questioning where they are!

Why wasn't the Brexit vote a democratic one?
I haven’t accepted the promises without questioning what they are.
I have accepted the outcome of the vote.

Several reason hound. Firstly, 16 - 18 year olds, (an age group highly affected by the outcome), were barred from voting; yet the same age group were previously allowed, quite rightly, to vote on Scottish Independence in 2014, (again an age group highly affected by the outcome).  Secondly, none British EU citizens resident in the UK were also barred from voting, (another group who would be affected by the outcome).
 
Then, of course, the referendum was advisory only.  For it to be acted upon one of two things should have happened; either a second referendum detailing the full terms and implications of our leaving, (as these were not included in the first, so no one knew what they were voting for or what they would get), or for the Government to have debated the matter in Parliament and then have taken us out of the EU, fully and totally, without any form of negotiation or agreed to remain a member per the status quo - as they were the only options on the voting paper.  What actually happened was totally undemocratic.
 
But for democracy to function in such referendums it requires truthful campaigns to be run and both sides lied, one to a greater extent than the other but they both lied. For people to decide which way to cast their vote based on lies and/or exaggeration is most certainly NOT democratic.
 
Then of course there's outside interference.  Ever wondered why the Government refuses to publish the 'Russia' papers?

Yeh because you'd be all fair and playing the Corinthian card wouldn't you if Remain had won .

Away with your condescending .

[SydneyRover]

If remain had won the country would be in a much better financial position than it is atm, although the tories have form and could have still f**ked it up, and then your wish which appears to be to have them re-elected would be more of a chance.

[Sprotyrover]

If remain had won the country would be in a much better financial position than it is atm, although the tories have form and could have still f**ked it up, and then your wish which appears to be to have them re-elected would be more of a chance.

I object to that remark, how dare you a runaway come on here pulling the Country you deserted down.. traitor!

[drfchound]

Nothing to say about the Guardian link with regards to Unite then NNK.

You mean the bit about partly rowing back hound? Not much to say until full details are put forward.  Meanwhile, have you got a single tangible benefit of Brexit?

No, but then again, as I keep saying, I voted remain.
There might be some benefits though but I don’t spend all day looking for them.
As much as I was disappointed we voted to leave the EU I have accepted the outcome and unlike some, I don’t whine about it.
We have no choice (unless we re-vote) other than to accept and make the best of where we are.

It's one thing to accept a democratic vote, (it wasn't, but lets ignore that), something else entirely to accept the promises without questioning where they are!

Why wasn't the Brexit vote a democratic one?
I haven’t accepted the promises without questioning what they are.
I have accepted the outcome of the vote.

Several reason hound. Firstly, 16 - 18 year olds, (an age group highly affected by the outcome), were barred from voting; yet the same age group were previously allowed, quite rightly, to vote on Scottish Independence in 2014, (again an age group highly affected by the outcome).  Secondly, none British EU citizens resident in the UK were also barred from voting, (another group who would be affected by the outcome).
 
Then, of course, the referendum was advisory only.  For it to be acted upon one of two things should have happened; either a second referendum detailing the full terms and implications of our leaving, (as these were not included in the first, so no one knew what they were voting for or what they would get), or for the Government to have debated the matter in Parliament and then have taken us out of the EU, fully and totally, without any form of negotiation or agreed to remain a member per the status quo - as they were the only options on the voting paper.  What actually happened was totally undemocratic.
 
But for democracy to function in such referendums it requires truthful campaigns to be run and both sides lied, one to a greater extent than the other but they both lied. For people to decide which way to cast their vote based on lies and/or exaggeration is most certainly NOT democratic.
 
Then of course there's outside interference.  Ever wondered why the Government refuses to publish the 'Russia' papers?

I’m not sure why 16-18 years old kids voting in a Scottish referendum is relevant to the whole of the UK (including Scotland) voting on Brexit.
FWIIW, I said myself at the time that the Brexit decision was too monumental for the public to decide the outcome, based on them generally not knowing what they were truly voting for.
The argument most people gave to me when we spoke about it was to stop illegal immigration.
However, the vote eventually went ahead and the majority won.
That to me is democratic.
On the subject of campaigns being based on all sides being truthful for democracy to be upheld I guess we should cancel the up and coming GE.

[tyke1962]

If remain had won the country would be in a much better financial position than it is atm, although the tories have form and could have still f**ked it up, and then your wish which appears to be to have them re-elected would be more of a chance.

Your the Party who welcomes Tory MP's Syd including one of Moggs lot .

[SydneyRover]

If remain had won the country would be in a much better financial position than it is atm, although the tories have form and could have still f**ked it up, and then your wish which appears to be to have them re-elected would be more of a chance.

I object to that remark, how dare you a runaway come on here pulling the Country you deserted down.. traitor!

All those childish epithets you hand out to anyone and everyone that disagrees with you actually fit yourself perfectly sprot, I just hold up the mirror.

[SydneyRover]

If remain had won the country would be in a much better financial position than it is atm, although the tories have form and could have still f**ked it up, and then your wish which appears to be to have them re-elected would be more of a chance.

Your the Party who welcomes Tory MP's Syd including one of Moggs lot .

You need to get up from behind the pooter and get involved, you don't appear to know how the real world works tyke.

[selby]

  I voted against leaving because I had no trust in our politicians even then to do the right thing, right from the start it was obvious we had Quislings in the population and at the top of the political parties on both sides not bothered about the public vote one way or the other and thought they, the elite, were the only ones intelligent enough to make a decision.
  They alienated lots of voters with that attitude and got their just deserts.
  What I have enjoyed is their moaning for the last eight years like a little sharp prick up the arse every day of their lives, absolutely hilarious and more to come.
  It's a pleasure to come on here at times, I would really miss Syd and co as I feel their hurt and disgust at us mere mortals.

[Not Now Kato]

Nothing to say about the Guardian link with regards to Unite then NNK.

You mean the bit about partly rowing back hound? Not much to say until full details are put forward.  Meanwhile, have you got a single tangible benefit of Brexit?

No, but then again, as I keep saying, I voted remain.
There might be some benefits though but I don’t spend all day looking for them.
As much as I was disappointed we voted to leave the EU I have accepted the outcome and unlike some, I don’t whine about it.
We have no choice (unless we re-vote) other than to accept and make the best of where we are.

It's one thing to accept a democratic vote, (it wasn't, but lets ignore that), something else entirely to accept the promises without questioning where they are!

Why wasn't the Brexit vote a democratic one?
I haven’t accepted the promises without questioning what they are.
I have accepted the outcome of the vote.

Several reason hound. Firstly, 16 - 18 year olds, (an age group highly affected by the outcome), were barred from voting; yet the same age group were previously allowed, quite rightly, to vote on Scottish Independence in 2014, (again an age group highly affected by the outcome).  Secondly, none British EU citizens resident in the UK were also barred from voting, (another group who would be affected by the outcome).
 
Then, of course, the referendum was advisory only.  For it to be acted upon one of two things should have happened; either a second referendum detailing the full terms and implications of our leaving, (as these were not included in the first, so no one knew what they were voting for or what they would get), or for the Government to have debated the matter in Parliament and then have taken us out of the EU, fully and totally, without any form of negotiation or agreed to remain a member per the status quo - as they were the only options on the voting paper.  What actually happened was totally undemocratic.
 
But for democracy to function in such referendums it requires truthful campaigns to be run and both sides lied, one to a greater extent than the other but they both lied. For people to decide which way to cast their vote based on lies and/or exaggeration is most certainly NOT democratic.
 
Then of course there's outside interference.  Ever wondered why the Government refuses to publish the 'Russia' papers?

Yeh because you'd be all fair and playing the Corinthian card wouldn't you if Remain had won .

Away with your condescending .

Your post reminds me of a quotation of many years back....
 
"Before you argue with someone, ask yourself, is that person even mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of different perspectives? Because if not, there's absolutely no point".

[SydneyRover]

That goes for selby also.

[Not Now Kato]

Nothing to say about the Guardian link with regards to Unite then NNK.

You mean the bit about partly rowing back hound? Not much to say until full details are put forward.  Meanwhile, have you got a single tangible benefit of Brexit?

No, but then again, as I keep saying, I voted remain.
There might be some benefits though but I don’t spend all day looking for them.
As much as I was disappointed we voted to leave the EU I have accepted the outcome and unlike some, I don’t whine about it.
We have no choice (unless we re-vote) other than to accept and make the best of where we are.

It's one thing to accept a democratic vote, (it wasn't, but lets ignore that), something else entirely to accept the promises without questioning where they are!

Why wasn't the Brexit vote a democratic one?
I haven’t accepted the promises without questioning what they are.
I have accepted the outcome of the vote.

Several reason hound. Firstly, 16 - 18 year olds, (an age group highly affected by the outcome), were barred from voting; yet the same age group were previously allowed, quite rightly, to vote on Scottish Independence in 2014, (again an age group highly affected by the outcome).  Secondly, none British EU citizens resident in the UK were also barred from voting, (another group who would be affected by the outcome).
 
Then, of course, the referendum was advisory only.  For it to be acted upon one of two things should have happened; either a second referendum detailing the full terms and implications of our leaving, (as these were not included in the first, so no one knew what they were voting for or what they would get), or for the Government to have debated the matter in Parliament and then have taken us out of the EU, fully and totally, without any form of negotiation or agreed to remain a member per the status quo - as they were the only options on the voting paper.  What actually happened was totally undemocratic.
 
But for democracy to function in such referendums it requires truthful campaigns to be run and both sides lied, one to a greater extent than the other but they both lied. For people to decide which way to cast their vote based on lies and/or exaggeration is most certainly NOT democratic.
 
Then of course there's outside interference.  Ever wondered why the Government refuses to publish the 'Russia' papers?

I’m not sure why 16-18 years old kids voting in a Scottish referendum is relevant to the whole of the UK (including Scotland) voting on Brexit.
FWIIW, I said myself at the time that the Brexit decision was too monumental for the public to decide the outcome, based on them generally not knowing what they were truly voting for.
The argument most people gave to me when we spoke about it was to stop illegal immigration.
However, the vote eventually went ahead and the majority won.
That to me is democratic.
On the subject of campaigns being based on all sides being truthful for democracy to be upheld I guess we should cancel the up and coming GE.

Surely, in a democratic society the rules should apply equally to all referendums, no? 
 
And democracy is government for the people, by the people, in the interests of the people. Do you think what has been delivered by Brexit is in the interests of the people?  As for cancelling the next GE due to lies, (potentially), being told then no as we have the democratic right and ability to vote out any lying incumbent at a subsequent GE.  Pity we don't have a similar option with Brexit.
 
I genuinely hope that the next government, whichever it is, is more truthful, open and honest than the current incumbents.  Time will tell.

[Bentley Bullet]

What about those Labour supporters who actually WANT Starmer to lie once he is elected, by abandoning the proposed policies that won him the election for a more Left-wing strategy?

[Iberian Red]

What about complete whataboutery?


What about  PM who lied to the public and monarch he was supposed to be serving?

[Bentley Bullet]

So, it's all right to be full of self-righteous, morally superior condemnation of a lying former Tory PM, but quite acceptable to be in full support of, nay set one's heart on a new Labour PM blatantly lying to the electorate to gain power!

[scawsby steve]

Nothing to say about the Guardian link with regards to Unite then NNK.

You mean the bit about partly rowing back hound? Not much to say until full details are put forward.  Meanwhile, have you got a single tangible benefit of Brexit?

No, but then again, as I keep saying, I voted remain.
There might be some benefits though but I don’t spend all day looking for them.
As much as I was disappointed we voted to leave the EU I have accepted the outcome and unlike some, I don’t whine about it.
We have no choice (unless we re-vote) other than to accept and make the best of where we are.

It's one thing to accept a democratic vote, (it wasn't, but lets ignore that), something else entirely to accept the promises without questioning where they are!

Why wasn't the Brexit vote a democratic one?
I haven’t accepted the promises without questioning what they are.
I have accepted the outcome of the vote.

Several reason hound. Firstly, 16 - 18 year olds, (an age group highly affected by the outcome), were barred from voting; yet the same age group were previously allowed, quite rightly, to vote on Scottish Independence in 2014, (again an age group highly affected by the outcome).  Secondly, none British EU citizens resident in the UK were also barred from voting, (another group who would be affected by the outcome).
 
Then, of course, the referendum was advisory only.  For it to be acted upon one of two things should have happened; either a second referendum detailing the full terms and implications of our leaving, (as these were not included in the first, so no one knew what they were voting for or what they would get), or for the Government to have debated the matter in Parliament and then have taken us out of the EU, fully and totally, without any form of negotiation or agreed to remain a member per the status quo - as they were the only options on the voting paper.  What actually happened was totally undemocratic.
 
But for democracy to function in such referendums it requires truthful campaigns to be run and both sides lied, one to a greater extent than the other but they both lied. For people to decide which way to cast their vote based on lies and/or exaggeration is most certainly NOT democratic.
 
Then of course there's outside interference.  Ever wondered why the Government refuses to publish the 'Russia' papers?

I’m not sure why 16-18 years old kids voting in a Scottish referendum is relevant to the whole of the UK (including Scotland) voting on Brexit.
FWIIW, I said myself at the time that the Brexit decision was too monumental for the public to decide the outcome, based on them generally not knowing what they were truly voting for.
The argument most people gave to me when we spoke about it was to stop illegal immigration.
However, the vote eventually went ahead and the majority won.
That to me is democratic.
On the subject of campaigns being based on all sides being truthful for democracy to be upheld I guess we should cancel the up and coming GE.

Surely, in a democratic society the rules should apply equally to all referendums, no? 
 
And democracy is government for the people, by the people, in the interests of the people. Do you think what has been delivered by Brexit is in the interests of the people?  As for cancelling the next GE due to lies, (potentially), being told then no as we have the democratic right and ability to vote out any lying incumbent at a subsequent GE.  Pity we don't have a similar option with Brexit.
 
I genuinely hope that the next government, whichever it is, is more truthful, open and honest than the current incumbents.  Time will tell.

I love your Tim Vine jokes, NNK, but that last paragraph is as funny as any of them.

[Iberian Red]

So, it's all right to be full of self-righteous, morally superior condemnation of a lying former Tory PM, but quite acceptable to be in full support of, nay set one's heart on a new Labour PM blatantly lying to the electorate to gain power!

Thank FFT.
You've finally agreed Boris lied.

Now to your point,if there is one.
Manifestos are what parties want to achieve if they get into power.
Never once in history has a government fulfilled all its manifesto. Is that lying?






If you answered yes,which I'm sure you did,shall we talk about 40 new hospitals,stop the boats,the NHS,education,levelling up,Brexit done, etc.

You've got to admit again there are some real lying basterds in Britain.

[drfchound]

Nothing to say about the Guardian link with regards to Unite then NNK.

You mean the bit about partly rowing back hound? Not much to say until full details are put forward.  Meanwhile, have you got a single tangible benefit of Brexit?

No, but then again, as I keep saying, I voted remain.
There might be some benefits though but I don’t spend all day looking for them.
As much as I was disappointed we voted to leave the EU I have accepted the outcome and unlike some, I don’t whine about it.
We have no choice (unless we re-vote) other than to accept and make the best of where we are.

It's one thing to accept a democratic vote, (it wasn't, but lets ignore that), something else entirely to accept the promises without questioning where they are!

Why wasn't the Brexit vote a democratic one?
I haven’t accepted the promises without questioning what they are.
I have accepted the outcome of the vote.

Several reason hound. Firstly, 16 - 18 year olds, (an age group highly affected by the outcome), were barred from voting; yet the same age group were previously allowed, quite rightly, to vote on Scottish Independence in 2014, (again an age group highly affected by the outcome).  Secondly, none British EU citizens resident in the UK were also barred from voting, (another group who would be affected by the outcome).
 
Then, of course, the referendum was advisory only.  For it to be acted upon one of two things should have happened; either a second referendum detailing the full terms and implications of our leaving, (as these were not included in the first, so no one knew what they were voting for or what they would get), or for the Government to have debated the matter in Parliament and then have taken us out of the EU, fully and totally, without any form of negotiation or agreed to remain a member per the status quo - as they were the only options on the voting paper.  What actually happened was totally undemocratic.
 
But for democracy to function in such referendums it requires truthful campaigns to be run and both sides lied, one to a greater extent than the other but they both lied. For people to decide which way to cast their vote based on lies and/or exaggeration is most certainly NOT democratic.
 
Then of course there's outside interference.  Ever wondered why the Government refuses to publish the 'Russia' papers?

I’m not sure why 16-18 years old kids voting in a Scottish referendum is relevant to the whole of the UK (including Scotland) voting on Brexit.
FWIIW, I said myself at the time that the Brexit decision was too monumental for the public to decide the outcome, based on them generally not knowing what they were truly voting for.
The argument most people gave to me when we spoke about it was to stop illegal immigration.
However, the vote eventually went ahead and the majority won.
That to me is democratic.
On the subject of campaigns being based on all sides being truthful for democracy to be upheld I guess we should cancel the up and coming GE.

Surely, in a democratic society the rules should apply equally to all referendums, no? 
 
And democracy is government for the people, by the people, in the interests of the people. Do you think what has been delivered by Brexit is in the interests of the people?  As for cancelling the next GE due to lies, (potentially), being told then no as we have the democratic right and ability to vote out any lying incumbent at a subsequent GE.  Pity we don't have a similar option with Brexit.
 
I genuinely hope that the next government, whichever it is, is more truthful, open and honest than the current incumbents.  Time will tell.

The Scots have a few laws that don’t apply to the rest of the UK so if you want everything to be the same in all of the UK nations perhaps that would be a good start and then I would agree with you.
There is no doubting that the Tory’s have lied over the term of government but I have seen it written on this forum that it is acceptable for Starmer to lie to enable him to win the GE and then change his mind once in government.
Very much double standards and I didn’t see any condemnation of that by any of his supporters on here.
Do you have an opinion on whether it is acceptable?
With regards to “pity we didn’t have the same option with Brexit”, well we did but sadly not enough people voted remain.

[SydneyRover]

Why should a possible incoming labour be dragged right down to what the past 5 governments have done, or more precisely not done bb?