Terrible

[jmt23]

We are not shit at throw ins, the problem is a combination of urgency and movement. The whole teams movement is really really really poor, in any situation, the only player making darting runs and finding space today was the new player Craig.

This lack of movement leads to passing around the back, then trying to hit a worldie pass because the crowd gets annoyed.

[StocksArmy]

Against a team in EIGHTEENTH we come up with the most ponderous, least energetic performances of the season. At no point were we under much threat, the 2 chances we did get were easier to score and we STILL got beat. Can I just point out that if you don't score at home to a less than mediocre team in the bottom league of English football it is in fact one of the worst performances of the season. We have not lost to a team as bad as Newport this season. They even tried to waste time to earn a point and came away with 3! Ridiculous. McCanns comments can only be to protect the new lads because Mcgrath and Waters were the only positives from the game. They were very good. Still aiming for the playoffs? Do me a favour.

[TonySoprano]

One shot on target them. Result poor but the performance wasn’t horrendous.

Your deluded if you don't think it was a bad performance.
For large parts of the game Newport were camped in our half , Newport! And they are awful.

We resorted to hoofball as per usual, and only showed urgency for 5 minutes after they scored.

[Campsall rover]

We are playing with 10 men when Broadbent plays.
Someone please tell me what he brings to the table.

He can’t run, can’t pass, can’t tackle, can’t head the ball.
What is it that he does well?

I seriously don’t see how he gets in the team ahead of Biggins and yes Biggins is not great in any games and is average in only a few games.
But he does have a goal in him and he gets more involved than Broadbent.
Not sure what GM saw in him that decided we should sign him and pay a fee.
Box to box attacking midfielder. Yes that’s how he was described.
Has anyone seen that from him?
Not scored one goal yet and is not likely to score as very rarely shoots and when he does it’s like a back pass to the opposing keeper.
We need much better if we are going to get out of this league at the right end. Much better.

[Pliskin]

Maybe he'll come good in time, but I have to say, at the moment I'm struggling to see what McCann saw in Broadbent to go as far as paying a transfer fee to bring him here.

[dickos1]

Definitely nowhere near the worst performance of the season.
If Ironside could have finished today it would’ve been a comfortable victory

Yep. Yet another match that we'd have won if we'd scored more than the opposition.

Your’e a strange chap aren’t ya?

If you went to the game you’d have seen the misses from Ironside, if you didn’t then I thought you didn’t comment on games?

Dickos.

The point is, it's the same line from you every time we lose. "We wouldn't have lost if we'd taken our chances".

When does the penny drop and you accept that the reason we don't take our chances is that we are not very good? Like some of us were sending from the first day of the season.

More nonsense!
Ironside twice from 3 yards out managed to not connect cleanly with the ball.
That doesn’t mean he’s shite, it doesn’t mean we’re shite, it means a very good player missed two sitters.

[In the box]

Definitely nowhere near the worst performance of the season.
If Ironside could have finished today it would’ve been a comfortable victory

Yep. Yet another match that we'd have won if we'd scored more than the opposition.

Your’e a strange chap aren’t ya?

If you went to the game you’d have seen the misses from Ironside, if you didn’t then I thought you didn’t comment on games?

Dickos.

The point is, it's the same line from you every time we lose. "We wouldn't have lost if we'd taken our chances".

When does the penny drop and you accept that the reason we don't take our chances is that we are not very good? Like some of us were sending from the first day of the season.

More nonsense!
Ironside twice from 3 yards out managed to not connect cleanly with the ball.
That doesn’t mean he’s shite, it doesn’t mean we’re shite, it means a very good player missed two sitters.

We threw on everyone we could before lost 1-0 . So when you loose to a team who just harried ,fought and just showed that they wanted something other than a point It’s fair to say they got what their tactics earned . So results that get you into the playoffs  or top of the League or  missing from 3 yards out gets you 3 points !! Our results show that either players are not upto it or McCann can’t do this for us !!

[BillyStubbsTears]

Definitely nowhere near the worst performance of the season.
If Ironside could have finished today it would’ve been a comfortable victory

Yep. Yet another match that we'd have won if we'd scored more than the opposition.

Your’e a strange chap aren’t ya?

If you went to the game you’d have seen the misses from Ironside, if you didn’t then I thought you didn’t comment on games?

Dickos.

The point is, it's the same line from you every time we lose. "We wouldn't have lost if we'd taken our chances".

When does the penny drop and you accept that the reason we don't take our chances is that we are not very good? Like some of us were sending from the first day of the season.

More nonsense!
Ironside twice from 3 yards out managed to not connect cleanly with the ball.
That doesn’t mean he’s shite, it doesn’t mean we’re shite, it means a very good player missed two sitters.

Does it never occur to you that you've spent the season saying "We made good chances and didn't take them"?

Don't you think there's a conclusion to be drawn?

[dickos1]

Definitely nowhere near the worst performance of the season.
If Ironside could have finished today it would’ve been a comfortable victory

Yep. Yet another match that we'd have won if we'd scored more than the opposition.

Your’e a strange chap aren’t ya?

If you went to the game you’d have seen the misses from Ironside, if you didn’t then I thought you didn’t comment on games?

Dickos.

The point is, it's the same line from you every time we lose. "We wouldn't have lost if we'd taken our chances".

When does the penny drop and you accept that the reason we don't take our chances is that we are not very good? Like some of us were sending from the first day of the season.

More nonsense!
Ironside twice from 3 yards out managed to not connect cleanly with the ball.
That doesn’t mean he’s shite, it doesn’t mean we’re shite, it means a very good player missed two sitters.

Does it never occur to you that you've spent the season saying "We made good chances and didn't take them"?

Don't you think there's a conclusion to be drawn?

I haven’t, you’re just making it up.
The fact is the last two games we should’ve won as created a lot more chances than the opposition

[GazLaz]

Definitely nowhere near the worst performance of the season.
If Ironside could have finished today it would’ve been a comfortable victory

Yep. Yet another match that we'd have won if we'd scored more than the opposition.

Your’e a strange chap aren’t ya?

If you went to the game you’d have seen the misses from Ironside, if you didn’t then I thought you didn’t comment on games?

Dickos.

The point is, it's the same line from you every time we lose. "We wouldn't have lost if we'd taken our chances".

When does the penny drop and you accept that the reason we don't take our chances is that we are not very good? Like some of us were sending from the first day of the season.

More nonsense!
Ironside twice from 3 yards out managed to not connect cleanly with the ball.
That doesn’t mean he’s shite, it doesn’t mean we’re shite, it means a very good player missed two sitters.

Does it never occur to you that you've spent the season saying "We made good chances and didn't take them"?

Don't you think there's a conclusion to be drawn?

I haven’t, you’re just making it up.
The fact is the last two games we should’ve won as created a lot more chances than the opposition

We were second best at Harrogate. We didn’t deserve to win.

[BillyStubbsTears]

As for Ironside's three great chances today.

First one: The number 5 got back and nicked the ball from him.

Second one: He's having to snatch at a ball that's behind him and he's off balance.

Third one: he has taken the ball down very well but has to rush a shot as a defender closes him down.

None of them were "How the f**k did he miss that?" chances.

None of them were as clear cut as the chance for the Newport goal, with a striker with a yard of space stepping onto a ball coming across him.

The reason we are where we are is that, consistently, the opposition create better chances than we do, and their defence denied our strikers space and time better than ours does.

We are a very poor football side, on the verge of a serious relegation dogfight.

[dickos1]

Definitely nowhere near the worst performance of the season.
If Ironside could have finished today it would’ve been a comfortable victory

Yep. Yet another match that we'd have won if we'd scored more than the opposition.

Your’e a strange chap aren’t ya?

If you went to the game you’d have seen the misses from Ironside, if you didn’t then I thought you didn’t comment on games?

Dickos.

The point is, it's the same line from you every time we lose. "We wouldn't have lost if we'd taken our chances".

When does the penny drop and you accept that the reason we don't take our chances is that we are not very good? Like some of us were sending from the first day of the season.

More nonsense!
Ironside twice from 3 yards out managed to not connect cleanly with the ball.
That doesn’t mean he’s shite, it doesn’t mean we’re shite, it means a very good player missed two sitters.

Does it never occur to you that you've spent the season saying "We made good chances and didn't take them"?

Don't you think there's a conclusion to be drawn?

I haven’t, you’re just making it up.
The fact is the last two games we should’ve won as created a lot more chances than the opposition

We were second best at Harrogate. We didn’t deserve to win.

I think for 65 mins we were the better side.
Even weaver stated that in his press conference.

[dickos1]

As for Ironside's three great chances today.

First one: The number 5 got back and nicked the ball from him.

Second one: He's having to snatch at a ball that's behind him and he's off balance.

Third one: he has taken the ball down very well but has to rush a shot as a defender closes him down.

None of them were "How the f**k did he miss that?" chances.

None of them were as clear cut as the chance for the Newport goal, with a striker with a yard of space stepping onto a ball coming across him.

The reason we are where we are is that, consistently, the opposition create better chances than we do, and their defence denied our strikers space and time better than ours does.

We are a very poor football side, on the verge of a serious relegation dogfight.

The first two Ironside chances were definite “how did he not score there” kind of chances.

[BillyStubbsTears]

And that, Dickos, is exactly what I'd expect from you. You ALWAYS over inflate the quality of our play and of our chances.

I'll say again: For the first chance, the defender did superbly to make up ground and Nick the ball away. It was an air shot from Ironside precisely because he never got a chance to make contact. By the time the ball had reached him, the defender had got in.

Do you actually not see these things? It would explains lot.

[dickos1]

Billy
I don’t know if you’ve ever played the game buti doubt it the defender got there but he shouldn’t have and the second chance he’s 3 yards out with a clear shot at goal, it’s irrelevant if he’s falling.

Anyway I know you won’t stop, let’s just agree to disagree.
For me both those chances would be scored 8 times out of 10.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Dickos.

Watch the video again. Ironside isn't dawdling. He's having to wait for the ball to reach him before he can shoot. The defender gets back and nicks it away. Literally, the only way Ironside gets to that ball before the defender is if he leg grows a foot longer.

Having played the game or not is irrelevant. It's just a question of using your eyes.

[Pancho Regan]

Definitely nowhere near the worst performance of the season.
If Ironside could have finished today it would’ve been a comfortable victory

Two good saves from their keeper - if either had gone in the result would have been different.

Very disappointing to lose to a late goal, but nowhere near our worst performance.

Neither side got going today, it was a poor match.

[drfchound]

Definitely nowhere near the worst performance of the season.
If Ironside could have finished today it would’ve been a comfortable victory

Two good saves from their keeper - if either had gone in the result would have been different.

Very disappointing to lose to a late goal, but nowhere near our worst performance.

Neither side got going today, it was a poor match.

That is a fair assessment of todays game Pancho.

[GazLaz]

I say it every other week on here and have do for the last couple of years. The more possession we have the less likely we are to win. When we hade lots of the ball like we did yesterday we don’t have the quality to score/create against teams playing a low block when there are men in close proximity and time and space are limited.

Our better results and performances (generally) come against teams that want the ball and we can play off that, nick it back and counter into the spaces.

Yesterday was a prime example. We fell into Newports trap. They let us have the ball, we didn’t control the game as such because we were doing what Newport wanted us to do, it wasn’t through our quality.

Football teams at our level could add most value by realising how games are going to play out structurally, how the opposition want the game to pan out and modelling how likely they are to be on the end of a positive result under those specific set of circumstances. So many teams put themselves at a disadvantage playing the way THEY want to play. In summary I’d certain teams do their plan A well against certain teams, you are playing into the oppositions strengths. Spotting where that may happen is key to the betting stuff I do. It’s where a lot of the unpredictability comes from in football. Styles make fights.

Eg yesterday, Newport want as little possession as possible. They are a bigger threat without it than they are with it. Does the game play out differently if we sit in deep and just let them dominate the ball and try and counter? Probably. Their game plan is then obsolete and they don’t have players with the technical ability to create and dominate in that situation.

It’s not just us that fall into this trap. Most teams do really but the better sides are good enough to still do well.

[roversdude]

Poor yesterday but not the worst we’ve played. Our only outlet seemed to be molyneux who they did a job on.
The new lads looked decent, I had to double check when I saw the comments about Broadbent he was so anonymous, can’t understand why he started after Biggins had had a few decent games

[vaya]

I say it every other week on here and have do for the last couple of years. The more possession we have the less likely we are to win. When we hade lots of the ball like we did yesterday we don’t have the quality to score/create against teams playing a low block when there are men in close proximity and time and space are limited.

Our better results and performances (generally) come against teams that want the ball and we can play off that, nick it back and counter into the spaces.

Yesterday was a prime example. We fell into Newports trap. They let us have the ball, we didn’t control the game as such because we were doing what Newport wanted us to do, it wasn’t through our quality.

Football teams at our level could add most value by realising how games are going to play out structurally, how the opposition want the game to pan out and modelling how likely they are to be on the end of a positive result under those specific set of circumstances. So many teams put themselves at a disadvantage playing the way THEY want to play. In summary I’d certain teams do their plan A well against certain teams, you are playing into the oppositions strengths. Spotting where that may happen is key to the betting stuff I do. It’s where a lot of the unpredictability comes from in football. Styles make fights.

Eg yesterday, Newport want as little possession as possible. They are a bigger threat without it than they are with it. Does the game play out differently if we sit in deep and just let them dominate the ball and try and counter? Probably. Their game plan is then obsolete and they don’t have players with the technical ability to create and dominate in that situation.

It’s not just us that fall into this trap. Most teams do really but the better sides are good enough to still do well.

This presumably fits in with the MK Dons game where we basically let them have the ball?

[GazLaz]

I say it every other week on here and have do for the last couple of years. The more possession we have the less likely we are to win. When we hade lots of the ball like we did yesterday we don’t have the quality to score/create against teams playing a low block when there are men in close proximity and time and space are limited.

Our better results and performances (generally) come against teams that want the ball and we can play off that, nick it back and counter into the spaces.

Yesterday was a prime example. We fell into Newports trap. They let us have the ball, we didn’t control the game as such because we were doing what Newport wanted us to do, it wasn’t through our quality.

Football teams at our level could add most value by realising how games are going to play out structurally, how the opposition want the game to pan out and modelling how likely they are to be on the end of a positive result under those specific set of circumstances. So many teams put themselves at a disadvantage playing the way THEY want to play. In summary I’d certain teams do their plan A well against certain teams, you are playing into the oppositions strengths. Spotting where that may happen is key to the betting stuff I do. It’s where a lot of the unpredictability comes from in football. Styles make fights.

Eg yesterday, Newport want as little possession as possible. They are a bigger threat without it than they are with it. Does the game play out differently if we sit in deep and just let them dominate the ball and try and counter? Probably. Their game plan is then obsolete and they don’t have players with the technical ability to create and dominate in that situation.

It’s not just us that fall into this trap. Most teams do really but the better sides are good enough to still do well.

This presumably fits in with the MK Dons game where we basically let them have the ball?

Exactly. Styles makes fights. People will say we didn’t lay a glove on Notts County and fair enough, they were too good for us. Back us against teams that try to play footy and are likely to out possession us but aren’t the very very best in the division. MK, Tranmere, Grimsby, Crawley, Forest Green all tried to pass the ball against us and got beat.

We had loads of the ball against Barrow, Salford, Wimbledon, Newport and got beat…

It’s not a coincidence. Grant will Jane looked at those wins and thought we did X, Y and Z well and the losses and thought we did A, B and C wrong but in reality circumstance played the biggest part in the results. He may have affected minor details but games play out in a fairly pre prescribed way unless dramatic tactical are made.

[jmt23]

I’d say you’re wrong, based on what I saw yesterday. Newport dominated the ball and we hardly got out of our half in the first 15-20.
Their play was stylish with quick movement, they were a final ball and shots away from sticking 2-3 past us in that period.
From that period on we dominated the ball, and created more than enough ( and one chance from joe was definitely “how the hell did he miss that”)

Movement and urgency are the biggest things missing in this team.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I’d say you’re wrong, based on what I saw yesterday. Newport dominated the ball and we hardly got out of our half in the first 15-20.
Their play was stylish with quick movement, they were a final ball and shots away from sticking 2-3 past us in that period.
From that period on we dominated the ball, and created more than enough ( and one chance from joe was definitely “how the hell did he miss that”)

Movement and urgency are the biggest things missing in this team.

Which chance was that?

[Upton Rover]

Definitely nowhere near the worst performance of the season.
If Ironside could have finished today it would’ve been a comfortable victory

He never though, so it’s right up there on been one of the worst performances this season, and I’m afraid there’s even worse to come, you can see the confidence is zero, headless chickens

[dickos1]

I’d say you’re wrong, based on what I saw yesterday. Newport dominated the ball and we hardly got out of our half in the first 15-20.
Their play was stylish with quick movement, they were a final ball and shots away from sticking 2-3 past us in that period.
From that period on we dominated the ball, and created more than enough ( and one chance from joe was definitely “how the hell did he miss that”)

Movement and urgency are the biggest things missing in this team.

Billy says it was only a half chance

[Lesonthewest]

We are playing with 10 men when Broadbent plays.
Someone please tell me what he brings to the table.

He can’t run, can’t pass, can’t tackle, can’t head the ball.
What is it that he does well?

I seriously don’t see how he gets in the team ahead of Biggins and yes Biggins is not great in any games and is average in only a few games.
But he does have a goal in him and he gets more involved than Broadbent.
Not sure what GM saw in him that decided we should sign him and pay a fee.
Box to box attacking midfielder. Yes that’s how he was described.
Has anyone seen that from him?
Not scored one goal yet and is not likely to score as very rarely shoots and when he does it’s like a back pass to the opposing keeper.
We need much better if we are going to get out of this league at the right end. Much better.

To be brutally honest here, I don't believe any of our midfield would get in the Newport side. That hurts.

[dickos1]

Don’t be daft
Newports midfield was very poor, close would walk into there as woukd westbrooke, the new lad craig will end up being a very good player

[ncRover]

Don’t be daft
Newports midfield was very poor, close would walk into there as woukd westbrooke, the new lad craig will end up being a very good player

And yet for 3 years Close has routinely ended up in midfield for the losing side.

Fresh start once he’s gone

[dickos1]

All about opinions.
I think the reason we’ve been losing for two years is he’s been playing alongside absolute shite.
No coincidence we put another good player alongside him in westbrooke and we hit some form.
Close will be offered a new contract but think he’ll end up in league one somewhere