Kyle Hurst

[Butchers Red]

Great to see the lad back fit and with a belly full of fire last night. Worked tirelessly off the ball and hopefully has added that side to his game on a regular basis. He gives us the XFactor on similar lines to Faal and on his day is unplayable and with a higher percentage of end product than certain others.

[Reg of the Rovers]

Agreed, he's positive in his play and always wants to try and make something happen, and worked hard going backwards last night which he hasn't always been great at. One of our best potential assets in my mind, if he gets down the gym a bit and gets a good run injury free he'll be a great player for us, and worth a few quid in the future.

[GazLaz]

He’s going to be a good player. He needs minutes. Criminal if he doesn’t play 30% of the minutes remaining.

[pib]

Now we've gone back to 4-3-3 he should be getting much more time on the pitch hopefully. He was one of few positives last season and has that ability to carry the ball and get us up the pitch that is lacking elsewhere in our squad.

He's clearly not up to speed but if he gets more opportunities I think he can make a big difference for us.

I'm also going to go against the grain of this narrative that he's useless defensively. He's not going to be crunching into tackles but I think he's a harder worker and covers the ground more than he gets credit for. Maybe the stats would say differently, but that's just my observation from watching him last season.

[RugbyRover]

He excites me greatly 

[Bailey Vickerage]

Now we've gone back to 4-3-3 he should be getting much more time on the pitch hopefully. He was one of few positives last season and has that ability to carry the ball and get us up the pitch that is lacking elsewhere in our squad.

He's clearly not up to speed but if he gets more opportunities I think he can make a big difference for us.

I'm also going to go against the grain of this narrative that he's useless defensively. He's not going to be crunching into tackles but I think he's a harder worker and covers the ground more than he gets credit for. Maybe the stats would say differently, but that's just my observation from watching him last season.

He’s not awful defensively, better than some make out but when we were playing 352, he couldn’t have played as a wing back.

Just a bit lightweight for me atm but a very good footballer.

[bpoolrover]

He’s going to be a good player. He needs minutes. Criminal if he doesn’t play 30% of the minutes remaining.

out of curiosity why 30 percent? He has been unlucky not to play more and would start on sat for me

[Padge_DRFC]

No chance he starts on Saturday v Bradford. Not the game for him. Waters will play

[GazLaz]

He’s going to be a good player. He needs minutes. Criminal if he doesn’t play 30% of the minutes remaining.

out of curiosity why 30 percent? He has been unlucky not to play more and would start on sat for me

Fairly arbitrary figure on my part. Feels enough to keep him engaged and keep developing. It would take him past 1000 minutes for the season, which given the time he spent out injured, would be fair. He played 3500 last season which was a lot for someone so young. I’d be fine with less than that this season but less than 1000 would hinder his progress. Same with Bobby. He played over 1500 last season. Needed similar again this season, we are likely to let him down.

[Colin C No.3]

Kyle Hurst can be a joy & a frustration at the same time however, if we are to progress as a footballing team then Kyle is the type of player we need.

I know I’ve banged on in another thread about Owen Bailey being the ‘bees knees’ because he’s been there & mixed it at a lower division & come out at Lg2 ‘smelling of roses’ but Kyle reminds me of a young Copps when he first joined us from Exeter. Copps was a ‘slow burner’ in Dave Penny’s teams but physic wise he was very much like Kyle is now.

I’m not suggesting we will have a billboard of Kyle in the future at the back of the South Stand but, game minutes apart & all that jazz, watch this space.

[PDX_Rover]

Kyle Hurst can be a joy & a frustration at the same time however, if we are to progress as a footballing team then Kyle is the type of player we need.

I know I’ve banged on in another thread about Owen Bailey being the ‘bees knees’ because he’s been there & mixed it at a lower division & come out at Lg2 ‘smelling of roses’ but Kyle reminds me of a young Copps when he first joined us from Exeter. Copps was a ‘slow burner’ in Dave Penny’s teams but physic wise he was very much like Kyle is now.

I’m not suggesting we will have a billboard of Kyle in the future at the back of the South Stand but, game minutes apart & all that jazz, watch this space.

Good comparison. Legend that he is, it did take Copps some time to find his feet and really crack on. But once he did....

[Sammy Chung was King]

Needs minutes on the pitch and time to develop .

[BillyStubbsTears]

Kyle Hurst can be a joy & a frustration at the same time however, if we are to progress as a footballing team then Kyle is the type of player we need.

I know I’ve banged on in another thread about Owen Bailey being the ‘bees knees’ because he’s been there & mixed it at a lower division & come out at Lg2 ‘smelling of roses’ but Kyle reminds me of a young Copps when he first joined us from Exeter. Copps was a ‘slow burner’ in Dave Penny’s teams but physic wise he was very much like Kyle is now.

I’m not suggesting we will have a billboard of Kyle in the future at the back of the South Stand but, game minutes apart & all that jazz, watch this space.

Coppinger got something like 15 assists in L1 in his first season with us. Some "slow burner".

I said to our kid in the first friendly that season "We've might have a better one that McIndoe here".

[NickDRFC]

Kyle Hurst can be a joy & a frustration at the same time however, if we are to progress as a footballing team then Kyle is the type of player we need.

I know I’ve banged on in another thread about Owen Bailey being the ‘bees knees’ because he’s been there & mixed it at a lower division & come out at Lg2 ‘smelling of roses’ but Kyle reminds me of a young Copps when he first joined us from Exeter. Copps was a ‘slow burner’ in Dave Penny’s teams but physic wise he was very much like Kyle is now.

I’m not suggesting we will have a billboard of Kyle in the future at the back of the South Stand but, game minutes apart & all that jazz, watch this space.

Coppinger got something like 15 assists in L1 in his first season with us. Some "slow burner".

I said to our kid in the first friendly that season "We've might have a better one that McIndoe here".

That’s very different to my recollection. To my mind wasn’t firmly first choice and didn’t offer much in the way of end product. I can’t remember him ever getting 15 assists more than once or twice in a season let alone in his first one.

Edit - according to Transfermarkt (pretty reliable in my experience) he got 4 assists in his first season. Managed 13 in his 6th season with us and 15 in his 13th.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/james-coppinger/detaillierteleistungsdaten/spieler/48959

[Chris Black come back]

He was a fantastic player for us, a rare talent. You wonder what would have happened with McIndoe if he had stuck with us and had his head in the right place. The guy had an unreal engine and was never injured. He could have been as successful as Copps if he hadn’t thrown his toys out of pram. SOD would have improved him further.

[MachoMadness]

I seem to remember it took Copps ages to score his first goal for us though. Was it in his second season?

I remember he was competing with Jermaine McSporran for that right sided slot, and was very much in the shadow of McIndoe during his initial season with us.

Macca was remarkable really. Arguably a lower half premier league player, in his prime, signed for £50k. No wonder he ran roughshod in the early 00s third division.

[Chris Black come back]

We got pretty much nowt for him but then again we paid pretty much nowt for him. A fantastic 2.5 seasons though. What a player.

[roversontheup]

I seem to remember that Copps really improved once McIndoe had left us.

[GazLaz]

I seem to remember that Copps really improved once McIndoe had left us.

He spent less time in the bookies after he left probably.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I seem to remember it took Copps ages to score his first goal for us though. Was it in his second season?

I remember he was competing with Jermaine McSporran for that right sided slot, and was very much in the shadow of McIndoe during his initial season with us.

Macca was remarkable really. Arguably a lower half premier league player, in his prime, signed for £50k. No wonder he ran roughshod in the early 00s third division.

Seem to recall JJ Price showing Copps how effective a wide man can be, coming inside getting into goalscoring positions. So much so, Price became that false no 9 allowing room for Copps to get back into the team.

As said though, Copps is a prime example of how players can develop and with néw found confidence, can become more flexible and be more influential. No reason why Hurst can't develop in the same way.

[drfchound]

I suppose four assists is something like 15.
I can’t recall Copps having a big influence on the team in his first couple of years although he obviously did have “something” didn’t he.

[NickDRFC]

I seem to remember that Copps really improved once McIndoe had left us.

Pretty sure McIndoe left in March/April and Copps came back into the team on the left wing, playing very well for the rest of the season.

[Chris Black come back]

His last game for us was as a 53rd minute sub (replacing Copps) away to Huddersfield Town in a 2-2 draw on 4 March 2006.

[drfchound]

His last game for us was as a 53rd minute sub (replacing Copps) away to Huddersfield Town in a 2-2 draw on 4 March 2006.

That was when we were down to ten men and Greeny cracked in an equaliser to get to 2-2.
I think it was anyway.

[Colin C No.3]

I seem to remember that Copps really improved once McIndoe had left us.

He spent less time in the bookies after he left probably.

An ambiguous statement. Are you referring to Copps or Macca?

[DonnyBazR0ver]

His last game for us was as a 53rd minute sub (replacing Copps) away to Huddersfield Town in a 2-2 draw on 4 March 2006.

That was when we were down to ten men and Greeny cracked in an equaliser to get to 2-2.
I think it was anyway.

Wasn't that the game when Donny Dog (Andy) got detained by the plod before the match?

[DonnyBazR0ver]

His last game for us was as a 53rd minute sub (replacing Copps) away to Huddersfield Town in a 2-2 draw on 4 March 2006.

That was when we were down to ten men and Greeny cracked in an equaliser to get to 2-2.
I think it was anyway.

https://youtu.be/eLK9QmYuJos?si=oGJ3WOPLJnbn0lhR

[ncRover]

Needs to be loaned out to the local gym for the rest of the season. One of the most lightweight players I’ve ever seen.

We are supposed to be a high energy team, as Grant has said. Yet AGAIN it appeared every opposition player was sharper and had more zip about them.

Perhaps the strength and conditioning compartment should get the same investigation that the medical department did.

[Padge_DRFC]

I'd say he's got no chance in the game if he's going to continue playing scared of getting hurt, but John Oster was a very good player for us.

[Filo]

I'd say he's got no chance in the game if he's going to continue playing scared of getting hurt, but John Oster was a very good player for us.

John Oster had a bit of bite about him, I remember him getting sent off for t**tting McCann at Scunthorpe