National Service

[selby]

  Would you agree with me that if police, nurses, and teachers are required to have a degree education, with the complexities of the equipment used on the front line a degree and a university education should be a minimum qualification for front line soldiers.
  As well as having a well educated armed forces, it would also allow the brickies, electricians, plumbers, and fitters to stay in blighty to look after us old codgers and keep us in the life style we have been used to.
  The university lot could perhaps use their gap year to practice digging trenches and sharp shooting.

[MachoMadness]

Sounds more like an argument for free university tuition to me. Welcome to the team, comrade Selby.

[Nudga]

They should send drug dealers, petty thieves etc on national service and then feed them on pedophiles and rapists.

[scawsby steve]

The news that young men might soon be conscripted has got BB, Wolfie, and me quite worried.

[Bristol Red Rover]

Do you think a university education, whereby thinking is taught and encouraged, might result in a high drop out amongst people being asked by someone tucked safely away to stand in a place where they have a high risk of painful death, permanent physical disability, and permanent mental trauma?

[normal rules]

  Would you agree with me that if police, nurses, and teachers are required to have a degree education, with the complexities of the equipment used on the front line a degree and a university education should be a minimum qualification for front line soldiers.
  As well as having a well educated armed forces, it would also allow the brickies, electricians, plumbers, and fitters to stay in blighty to look after us old codgers and keep us in the life style we have been used to.
  The university lot could perhaps use their gap year to practice digging trenches and sharp shooting.

Police forces are actually moving back towards non degree entrants. Because they realised they were missing out on so many good people in society ( like ex forces) You’d be amazed how many post grads don’t cut the mustard when they joins the police. Intelligence does not necessarily translate to resilience.

[Bentley Bullet]

The news that young men might soon be conscripted has got BB, Wolfie, and me quite worried.

I can see it now....

[Iberian Red]

  Would you agree with me that if police, nurses, and teachers are required to have a degree education, with the complexities of the equipment used on the front line a degree and a university education should be a minimum qualification for front line soldiers.
  As well as having a well educated armed forces, it would also allow the brickies, electricians, plumbers, and fitters to stay in blighty to look after us old codgers and keep us in the life style we have been used to.
  The university lot could perhaps use their gap year to practice digging trenches and sharp shooting.

No.



I wouldn't agree with you,and hopefully never will.

Did you do National Service Sellby?

More logical would be to send old codgers that think they are wise(but aren't)to the f4ont line.
They don't have much to offer society any more.
Selby,did you not say one of your daughter's was a nurse? Shall we send her to face fire?
Nice wum .

[Bentley Bullet]

https://youtu.be/N5LveBIjg3o?si=_8ByTUpuH_wkPRXF

[Iberian Red]

https://youtu.be/N5LveBIjg3o?si=_8ByTUpuH_wkPRXF

Victor Mature strikes back.

[scawsby steve]

The news that young men might soon be conscripted has got BB, Wolfie, and me quite worried.

I can see it now....

It's pretty obvious I'm the one at the back.

[ravenrover]

I'm safe then, left school at 16 5 O and CSE  level grades

[wilts rover]

  Would you agree with me that if police, nurses, and teachers are required to have a degree education, with the complexities of the equipment used on the front line a degree and a university education should be a minimum qualification for front line soldiers.
  As well as having a well educated armed forces, it would also allow the brickies, electricians, plumbers, and fitters to stay in blighty to look after us old codgers and keep us in the life style we have been used to.
  The university lot could perhaps use their gap year to practice digging trenches and sharp shooting.

Just soldiers? What about RAF & Royal Navy? Or do they not matter?

[BillyStubbsTears]

  Would you agree with me that if police, nurses, and teachers are required to have a degree education, with the complexities of the equipment used on the front line a degree and a university education should be a minimum qualification for front line soldiers.
  As well as having a well educated armed forces, it would also allow the brickies, electricians, plumbers, and fitters to stay in blighty to look after us old codgers and keep us in the life style we have been used to.
  The university lot could perhaps use their gap year to practice digging trenches and sharp shooting.

Just soldiers? What about RAF & Royal Navy? Or do they not matter?

Not much point getting more people enlisted there if we don't have the ships and planes.

But we need to be prepared for us and the whole of Europe to significantly re-arm over the next decade. It's only a matter of time before one of the Republican headcases gets elected and drastically weakens NATO, even if Trump loses this year.

[Bentley Bullet]

https://youtu.be/N5LveBIjg3o?si=_8ByTUpuH_wkPRXF

Victor Mature strikes back.

I might not be mature, but I will always be the victor over you.

[Bristol Red Rover]

  Would you agree with me that if police, nurses, and teachers are required to have a degree education, with the complexities of the equipment used on the front line a degree and a university education should be a minimum qualification for front line soldiers.
  As well as having a well educated armed forces, it would also allow the brickies, electricians, plumbers, and fitters to stay in blighty to look after us old codgers and keep us in the life style we have been used to.
  The university lot could perhaps use their gap year to practice digging trenches and sharp shooting.

Just soldiers? What about RAF & Royal Navy? Or do they not matter?

Not much point getting more people enlisted there if we don't have the ships and planes.

But we need to be prepared for us and the whole of Europe to significantly re-arm over the next decade. It's only a matter of time before one of the Republican headcases gets elected and drastically weakens NATO, even if Trump loses this year.

NATO is progressively getting weaker anyway relative to other forces in the world. The NATO model of US dominance over the world isn't the way - with or without Billy sticking it up them on a weekend. Contributing to the country having bigger b*llocks is playing into the hands of the elite overseers we have. Dying for them is not wise.

[selby]

 Iberian, Spain doesn't seem to count apart from fighting themselves since we gave them a good hiding way back when and the catholic church took their eye off us and turned to kiddy fiddling, been a bit insular since then.
  I suppose you are in a decent place as even the Russians and Chinese will need a holiday and will need bar tenders and cleaners with a degree.

[Ldr]

Be ironic if ppl do get called up and BRR has to fight the Russians

[Bristol Red Rover]

Be ironic if ppl do get called up and BRR has to fight the Russians

That would be you not understanding irony  or just reacting out of prejudice

One, I'm too old.
Two, I'm exampt for health reasons.
Three, I would never fight for our "masters.
Four, where you have an irony fail, I have equal disregard for the state of Russia.

[DRFC_AjA]

I identify as a 95 year old female. And if the conscription people come knocking and think I'm a 30 something male I'll have them cancelled and doxx them

[normal rules]

It is interesting that there is a lot of talk about Europe being in a “pre war” phase. It’s beggars belief that they are fighting ww2 style
In Ukraine with trench warfare. Yes, there are drones and artillery, but if, and it’s a big if, wider Europe and NATO got involved in this, we would not see UK soldiers dug in along the Ukraine or Russian border. Uk forces fight much smarter than this . Unmanned drones operated from
Based like Waddington would obliterate any forward position Russian forces. On top of that would be intel led air strikes . Russia still deal with conflict like uk forces did in the sixties. They haven’t moved on . The Russians would not know what hit them . The combined might of NATO military tech that could bring arms to bear would utterly overwhelm Russian advances. But here’s the kicker. Putin always said that any existential threat to Russia would force him to push the big red button . And conflict where the Direct combined might of  NATO was unleashed would
Push him into that corner . And that’s game over . For all of us .

[Sprotyrover]

They, both armies are pinned down by Drones and Satellite technology, as I said on another thread the M1 Abrahams lights up like a Christmas tree when the engine is started, it’s off of a Jet and produces a heat signature as parts of it reach 900 degrees Centigrade.

[Sprotyrover]

It’s in the Ukraine Government interest to manufacture some sort of atrocity to suck us in to the War a bit like the Bosnian Muslims did when then they mortar attacked a crowded Sarajevo Market and bleated that it was a Serbian Attriocity!

[BillyStubbsTears]

I suppose the Bosians also killed 8000 men and boys with bullets in the back of the head and gang raped the women in Srebrenica too, eh?

God help us if people like you have a vote.

[normal rules]

It’s in the Ukraine Government interest to manufacture some sort of atrocity to suck us in to the War a bit like the Bosnian Muslims did when then they mortar attacked a crowded Sarajevo Market and bleated that it was a Serbian Attriocity!

The Bosnia /Serbia situation was not a war for NATO forces. They deployed there in a peacekeeping role to implement the Dayton Peace Accord.

[TonySoprano]

  Would you agree with me that if police, nurses, and teachers are required to have a degree education, with the complexities of the equipment used on the front line a degree and a university education should be a minimum qualification for front line soldiers.
  As well as having a well educated armed forces, it would also allow the brickies, electricians, plumbers, and fitters to stay in blighty to look after us old codgers and keep us in the life style we have been used to.
  The university lot could perhaps use their gap year to practice digging trenches and sharp shooting.

Just soldiers? What about RAF & Royal Navy? Or do they not matter?

Not much point getting more people enlisted there if we don't have the ships and planes.

But we need to be prepared for us and the whole of Europe to significantly re-arm over the next decade. It's only a matter of time before one of the Republican headcases gets elected and drastically weakens NATO, even if Trump loses this year.

I can see it from their point of view aswell to be honest.

[TonySoprano]

I wonder if they will enlist the thousands of fighting age men that are coming into our country illegally.
If they want to be in our country so badly, then they can fight for it too.

[DRFC_AjA]

I wonder if they will enlist the thousands of fighting age men that are coming into our country illegally.
If they want to be in our country so badly, then they can fight for it too.

Oh no...fascist/hitler/right wing/racist *insert more lefty buzzwords.

These 20 something fit and healthy men have been through enough. They're from war torn backgrounds, fighting for their lives (but apparently a boat providing shelter, warmth and food is bad for their mental health  )

How dare you. Don't you think of their poor feelings. They've already come from war torn countries, struggled with their life through first world Europe, been forced onto boats into the UK from first World France, and now live in hotels and barges with heat warmth and food

[Nudga]

I wonder if they will enlist the thousands of fighting age men that are coming into our country illegally.
If they want to be in our country so badly, then they can fight for it too.

We are more likely to be fighting a civil war against some of these people than we are fighting the Russians on Cleveland Street.

[wilts rover]

I wonder if they will enlist the thousands of fighting age men that are coming into our country illegally.
If they want to be in our country so badly, then they can fight for it too.

Oh no...fascist/hitler/right wing/racist *insert more lefty buzzwords.

These 20 something fit and healthy men have been through enough. They're from war torn backgrounds, fighting for their lives (but apparently a boat providing shelter, warmth and food is bad for their mental health  )

How dare you. Don't you think of their poor feelings. They've already come from war torn countries, struggled with their life through first world Europe, been forced onto boats into the UK from first World France, and now live in hotels and barges with heat warmth and food

said the bloke who wrote this:

I identify as a 95 year old female. And if the conscription people come knocking and think I'm a 30 something male I'll have them cancelled and doxx them

bit rich you criticising somebody else after your show of bravery and support for our forces there.