Keeper

[GazLaz]

Wes fodringham from Sheffield United is available sorry for the spelling.

The 20k a week may be a stumbling block there.

[Barmby Rover]

One of the best signings we ever made was Sulli, he made such a difference, just as Seny Dieng did to GM former good team here. They are invaluable and are the captain for the defence, we have nothing of the sort now.

[NickDRFC]

Wes fodringham from Sheffield United is available sorry for the spelling.

The 20k a week may be a stumbling block there.

Alongside the fact that he’s been an ever present for a Premier League team so far this season.

[Monkcaster_Rover]

Wes fodringham from Sheffield United is available sorry for the spelling.

The 20k a week may be a stumbling block there.

Alongside the fact that he’s been an ever present for a Premier League team so far this season.

Sign him up!

[Upton Rover]

If we don’t replace Jones then I can tell you we are in serious danger of going down.
The third goal Stockport scored was Jones’s ball all day long.
Cross into the middle of the 6 yd box and he was rooted to his line.
Any keeper worth his salt would have gobbled up that cross.

Sorry but all the decent shot stopping doesn’t make Louie a good keeper.
He is atrocious on crosses and only comes anywhere near a cross when there are no bodies in front of him.
As for organising a defence, give me strength, he is the quietest keeper I have ever seen. He should be the loudest voice on the pitch.

Yes we are also desperate for some leadership on the pitch. Without Woods we have none whatsoever.

If Tommy Rowe is a captain then I haven’t seen it.
If he plays at left back again then I give up. If Maxwell is fit then he has to play.
Where was Tommy yesterday. Totally went missing in the same way he did at Barrow last season.
3 goals conceded due to his walk about.

I am now really getting concerned. If we lose at Sutton on Saturday we are in serious trouble.
I don’t see enough leadership or bottle on the pitch to get us out of trouble.

Agree with every bit of your post, a decent keeper would give confidence to the rest of the team. You can see there’s no confidence no desire no passion no camaraderie everything we take to the field, only time I’ve seen a hint of all this, has been in the EFL cup, maybe they are on a good win bonus

[Leedsrover]

Jed Steer has just left Peterborough and is looking for a club??

[Dare to dream!]

Jed Steer left Peterborough as he wants assurances he will play.

Should someone we should try and get even if on a short term deal.

[ForsolongaRover]

As someone said somewhere on here, can't the channel of the Shadow Board be used to raise concerns like this?

I don't think I've ever seen any feedback from them. I wonder what they have discussed? Perhaps I have missed something obvious. 

[scawsby steve]

One of the best signings we ever made was Sulli, he made such a difference, just as Seny Dieng did to GM former good team here. They are invaluable and are the captain for the defence, we have nothing of the sort now.

Darren Moore signed Seny Dieng. Keepers like him and Sam Johnstone would never come to Rovers now.

Those days are well and truly over.

[scawsby steve]

As someone said somewhere on here, can't the channel of the Shadow Board be used to raise concerns like this?

I don't think I've ever seen any feedback from them. I wonder what they have discussed? Perhaps I have missed something obvious.

Concerns like this? Jesus wept, if they expressed concerns about positions that needed strengthening, they'd be suggesting the whole bloody team needs replacing.

Do you seriously believe that we're in the bottom 3 of the EFL because of one player?

[ncRover]

Okonkwo is meant to be one of the best goalies in the league and he looks shocking in this cup game I’m watching

[ForsolongaRover]

As someone said somewhere on here, can't the channel of the Shadow Board be used to raise concerns like this?

I don't think I've ever seen any feedback from them. I wonder what they have discussed? Perhaps I have missed something obvious.

Concerns like this? Jesus wept, if they expressed concerns about positions that needed strengthening, they'd be suggesting the whole bloody team needs replacing.

Do you seriously believe that we're in the bottom 3 of the EFL because of one player?

So, can you tell me what it is they have discussed? The question is do they make known fans’ concerns (of which this is one of many). Is that such an outrageous wish?

[pib]

As someone said somewhere on here, can't the channel of the Shadow Board be used to raise concerns like this?

I don't think I've ever seen any feedback from them. I wonder what they have discussed? Perhaps I have missed something obvious.

Concerns like this? Jesus wept, if they expressed concerns about positions that needed strengthening, they'd be suggesting the whole bloody team needs replacing.

Do you seriously believe that we're in the bottom 3 of the EFL because of one player?

So, can you tell me what it is they have discussed? The question is do they make known fans’ concerns (of which this is one of many). Is that such an outrageous wish?

The meeting minutes are all here: https://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/club/shadow-board/meeting-minutes/

As far as I can see, the issues discussed don't tend to be to do with on the pitch or first team matters.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

The shadow board is not there to discuss or question McCann over team matters, certainly not individual players or positions, although I can't see anything wrong with questioning recruitment strategies and overall objectives to keep reviewing where we are. Clearly team related issues need to stay confidential for good reason.

[Chris Black come back]

I think some of this came out in the Meet the Owners event but it would be fascinating to have an explanation from the (actual) board as to why they think we are now in something of a death spiral? This is way beyond failures of 1,2 or even 3 managers, this is just a total collapse in the credibility of the governance structure and the strategy (if there was one) of the club. Something has gone truly catastrophically wrong at the strategic level - what do they think this is?

[pib]

Baldwin seemed to think funding was the key issue, which is not only an about-turn from previous public statements made, but is also worrying considering the funding has increased this season and we've only continued to go backwards.

[silent majority]

Baldwin seemed to think funding was the key issue, which is not only an about-turn from previous public statements made, but is also worrying considering the funding has increased this season and we've only continued to go backwards.

He didn't use the word funding, he used the word resources. It amounts to more or less the same thing but it was a nuanced response, one that I can understand.

[pib]

Baldwin seemed to think funding was the key issue, which is not only an about-turn from previous public statements made, but is also worrying considering the funding has increased this season and we've only continued to go backwards.

He didn't use the word funding, he used the word resources. It amounts to more or less the same thing but it was a nuanced response, one that I can understand.

This is verbatim what Baldwin said.....

"My honest answer would be the playing budget and the finances available there. There was a motivation for a sustainable club. What Terry has brought about... is a balance between sustainability and having a team on the pitch... So, probably brutally honest, it was resources"

So he didn't say funding but he did say "finances". Genuinely though, if you are able to shed more light on the nuance that would be interesting to hear. (I'm not being combative here, I'd be genuinely interested in the difference between what he said and how I am interpreting it.)

[ForsolongaRover]

The shadow board is not there to discuss or question McCann over team matters, certainly not individual players or positions, although I can't see anything wrong with questioning recruitment strategies and overall objectives to keep reviewing where we are. Clearly team related issues need to stay confidential for good reason.

I think some of this came out in the Meet the Owners event but it would be fascinating to have an explanation from the (actual) board as to why they think we are now in something of a death spiral? This is way beyond failures of 1,2 or even 3 managers, this is just a total collapse in the credibility of the governance structure and the strategy (if there was one) of the club. Something has gone truly catastrophically wrong at the strategic level - what do they think this is?

The relevant recommendation reads
"As a uniquely important stakeholder, supporters should be properly consulted by their clubs in taking key decisions by means of a Shadow Board.
26. A Shadow Board should be a licensing condition of IREF. The club should engage and consult this Shadow Board on all material ‘non football/off pitch’ business and financial matters."

My own, possibly naive, interpretation of this would be that it would be reasonable for the fan-members to relate on-pitch performance to off-pitch investment and supporters disquiet about performances and therefore player-investment which  clearly are "business and financial matters".

Observations on tactics etc., individual players and  and team selection would be off limits.

Is this unreasonable?