George Galloway MP

[SydneyRover]

Some idiot who ran away from this country many years ago keeps making disparaging comments about a government that he has no right to criticise , when he or one of his wet lettuce chums paints themselves into a corner he makes multiple irrelevant posts ,how do you counter such childish Trolling from a person who clearly has mental health issues?

C'mon sprot lighten up a bit, don't be a shadow mod all your life.

[SydneyRover]

Tommy C, I think your theory fails in many places, the main areas being Austerity and Brexit. The amount of data and expert opinion is there. If you find some credible economists to support your view I think you'll be doing well.

[ncRover]

I forgot to mention market uncertainty surrounding brexit as a stagnation factor. I doubt Ed Miliband would have entertained that vote.

BST, thanks for the Blair breakdown. The euro-sceptic anti-immigration right gained strength while the Conservatives had a big majority. So it’s not unreasonable to suggest that the progressive / socialist left could while Labour has a large majority. Particularly when there aren’t many (any?) Labour MPs to the right of Starmer economically.

Like you said with Blair, the criticism was that things didn’t change fast enough or that potentially he was too moderate. While that was up for debate, I think economic forecasts definitely aren’t expecting anything quick this time. Blair won because he was a positive force, yes? Starmer is only ahead because of the negative momentum the tories have.

People won’t go back to them (Tories) in a hurry, so I perceive that more pressure will come to Starmer from the left and populism *could* shift that way. I can’t find any substantial narrative the Tories had against Blair in the late 90s as a potential future comparison.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

George is in Hatfield on Sunday if anyone fancies popping to see him.

[Sprotyrover]

Tommy C, I think your theory fails in many places, the main areas being Austerity and Brexit. The amount of data and expert opinion is there. If you find some credible economists to support your view I think you'll be doing well.

Some idiot who ran away from this country many years ago keeps making disparaging comments about a government that he has no right to criticise , when he or one of his wet lettuce chums paints themselves into a corner he makes multiple irrelevant posts ,how do you counter such childish Trolling from a person who clearly has mental health issues?
You need a check up from the neck up!

[SydneyRover]

You're a couple of yards offside sprot, I left when gimp suits became popular

[SydneyRover]

Tommy C, I think your theory fails in many places, the main areas being Austerity and Brexit. The amount of data and expert opinion is there. If you find some credible economists to support your view I think you'll be doing well.

Some idiot who ran away from this country many years ago keeps making disparaging comments about a government that he has no right to criticise , when he or one of his wet lettuce chums paints themselves into a corner he makes multiple irrelevant posts ,how do you counter such childish Trolling from a person who clearly has mental health issues?
You need a check up from the neck up!

Is this where you worked sprot?

''Fifteen government departments have been monitoring the social media activity of potential critics and compiling “secret files” in order to block them from speaking at public events, the Observer can reveal.

Under the guidelines issued in each department, including the departments of health, culture, media and sport, and environment, food and rural affairs, officials are advised to check experts’ Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn accounts. They are also told to conduct Google searches on those individuals, using specific terms such as “criticism of government or prime minister”''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/nov/18/shocking-scale-of-uk-governments-secret-files-on-critics-revealed

[selby]

If the government spent a penny researching any of us nomarks on here I would be bitterly disappointed as a tax payer.

[SydneyRover]

Not enough research done here?

''Michelle Donelan, the science minister, has apologised and paid damages after accusing two academics of “sharing extremist views” and one of them of supporting Hamas.

In a statement posted on X, the secretary of state for science, innovation and technology said she had deleted a tweet and letter published last year, and accepted what she termed a “clarification” from one of the academics, Prof Kate Sang at Heriot-Watt university in Edinburgh''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/05/uk-science-minister-michelle-donelan-apologises-and-pays-damages-after-academics-libel-action

[ravenrover]

She hasn't paid a penny in damages

[SydneyRover]

You have more information rr?

[Ldr]

Don’t have the link to hand but on the BBC website says the public purse has paid

[Colin C No.3]

Don’t have the link to hand but on the BBC website says the public purse has paid

They never asked me before dipping into ‘my/our purse’!

[MachoMadness]

Not enough research done here?

''Michelle Donelan, the science minister, has apologised and paid damages after accusing two academics of “sharing extremist views” and one of them of supporting Hamas.

In a statement posted on X, the secretary of state for science, innovation and technology said she had deleted a tweet and letter published last year, and accepted what she termed a “clarification” from one of the academics, Prof Kate Sang at Heriot-Watt university in Edinburgh''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/05/uk-science-minister-michelle-donelan-apologises-and-pays-damages-after-academics-libel-action

How is this not a sacking/resiging offence? A government minister libels an academic and gets the taxpayer to cover the damages. That's clear cut isn't it?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Not enough research done here?

''Michelle Donelan, the science minister, has apologised and paid damages after accusing two academics of “sharing extremist views” and one of them of supporting Hamas.

In a statement posted on X, the secretary of state for science, innovation and technology said she had deleted a tweet and letter published last year, and accepted what she termed a “clarification” from one of the academics, Prof Kate Sang at Heriot-Watt university in Edinburgh''

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/mar/05/uk-science-minister-michelle-donelan-apologises-and-pays-damages-after-academics-libel-action

How is this not a sacking/resiging offence? A government minister libels an academic and gets the taxpayer to cover the damages. That's clear cut isn't it?

Going on past form, Sunak will hide under his bed saying nowt while the storm over this builds up, then she'll resign next Monday.

But seriously, there is absolutely no way on earth she can stay in post after this.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Also, while we are on about standards. What is the point of Hunt presenting the Budget to Parliament? His office has spent the past 24 hours telling the media what is in it.

In a previous era, a Chancellor who inadvertently let slip what was in the Budget would resign on the spot. 

[SydneyRover]

didn't read the article properly

''Donelan’s department said that it had paid the damages and legal costs when asked who had done so, adding: “This was subject to all the usual cross-government processes and aims to reduce the overall costs to the taxpayer that could result from protracted legal action.”

A No 10 source said Rishi Sunak had full confidence in Donelan, calling her “an excellent minister”.

Not sure why there would have been ''protracted legal action'' as the minister has accepted she was in the wrong.

[ravenrover]

didn't read the article properly

''Donelan’s department said that it had paid the damages and legal costs when asked who had done so, adding: “This was subject to all the usual cross-government processes and aims to reduce the overall costs to the taxpayer that could result from protracted legal action.”

A No 10 source said Rishi Sunak had full confidence in Donelan, calling her “an excellent minister”.

Not sure why there would have been ''protracted legal action'' as the minister has accepted she was in the wrong.

You provided the proof in the 1st place Syd, you really need to read your articles to the end

[SydneyRover]

didn't read the article properly

''Donelan’s department said that it had paid the damages and legal costs when asked who had done so, adding: “This was subject to all the usual cross-government processes and aims to reduce the overall costs to the taxpayer that could result from protracted legal action.”

A No 10 source said Rishi Sunak had full confidence in Donelan, calling her “an excellent minister”.

Not sure why there would have been ''protracted legal action'' as the minister has accepted she was in the wrong.

You provided the proof in the 1st place Syd, you really need to read your articles to the end

You didn't read my my comment correctly, that's what I wrote. What a forum aye?

[ravenrover]

Syd I was replying to your post 190 to me for more information. You implied that she had paid damages, your link said otherwise as I pointed out. Forums eh, who'd have them

[SydneyRover]

Syd I was replying to your post 190 to me for more information. You implied that she had paid damages, your link said otherwise as I pointed out. Forums eh, who'd have them

then you should have read all the comments and you'd have noticed the excerpt was from my original link, aye, what a forum?

[ravenrover]

No if someone asks a question I reply to it before carrying on as you would expect, forums eh!