Is this family means tested for welfare?

[SydneyRover]

Courtier demanded assurance king could not be prosecuted under new Welsh law
Palace official secured assurance under archaic custom that requires UK parliaments to get consent of monarch to draft bills

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/11/courtier-demanded-assurance-king-could-not-be-prosecuted-under-new-welsh-law

[Bristol Red Rover]

They're a trouble spot A bad history of abuse, disease, theft, infidelity, murder, delusions. Not sure they're paying their TV licence either. 

[Sprotyrover]

Courtier demanded assurance king could not be prosecuted under new Welsh law
Palace official secured assurance under archaic custom that requires UK parliaments to get consent of monarch to draft bills

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/11/courtier-demanded-assurance-king-could-not-be-prosecuted-under-new-welsh-law

What benefits do you quit for in OZ Syd, you being a ‘Mental Cripple’ n all?

[Iberian Red]

Courtier demanded assurance king could not be prosecuted under new Welsh law
Palace official secured assurance under archaic custom that requires UK parliaments to get consent of monarch to draft bills

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/11/courtier-demanded-assurance-king-could-not-be-prosecuted-under-new-welsh-law

What benefits do you quit for in OZ Syd, you being a ‘Mental Cripple’ n all?

Christ. You've got some serious issues y
You need to address.

[Sprotyrover]

Courtier demanded assurance king could not be prosecuted under new Welsh law
Palace official secured assurance under archaic custom that requires UK parliaments to get consent of monarch to draft bills

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/11/courtier-demanded-assurance-king-could-not-be-prosecuted-under-new-welsh-law

What benefits do you quit for in OZ Syd, you being a ‘Mental Cripple’ n all?

Christ. You've got some serious issues y
You need to address.

Yes Syd has got issues, but so have you Pearly!

[SydneyRover]

Courtier demanded assurance king could not be prosecuted under new Welsh law
Palace official secured assurance under archaic custom that requires UK parliaments to get consent of monarch to draft bills

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/apr/11/courtier-demanded-assurance-king-could-not-be-prosecuted-under-new-welsh-law

What benefits do you quit for in OZ Syd, you being a ‘Mental Cripple’ n all?

What benefits do you quit for in OZ Syd, you being a ‘Mental Cripple’ n all?

What benefits do you quit for in OZ Syd, you being a ‘Mental Cripple’ n all?

What benefits do you quit for in OZ Syd, you being a ‘Mental Cripple’ n all?

What benefits do you quit for in OZ Syd, you being a ‘Mental Cripple’ n all?

What benefits do you quit for in OZ Syd, you being a ‘Mental Cripple’ n all?

[SydneyRover]

Here's another family on welfare, caring for his son and lost his home.

''DWP claimants make 30p mistake which costs them their home and £20,000
DWP is facing criticism over its decision to prosecute unpaid carers who have overclaimed Carer's Allowance.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/dwp-claimants-make-30p-mistake-28987091

[Sprotyrover]

Here's another family on welfare, caring for his son and lost his home.

''DWP claimants make 30p mistake which costs them their home and £20,000
DWP is facing criticism over its decision to prosecute unpaid carers who have overclaimed Carer's Allowance.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/dwp-claimants-make-30p-mistake-28987091

The bloke got all he deserved, he lied on an official document, it’s called benefit Fraud Syd, something I had assumed you would be conversant with!

[ravenrover]

Seriously Syd hope you weren't shopping at the Sydney Westgate today

[Iberian Red]

Here's another family on welfare, caring for his son and lost his home.

''DWP claimants make 30p mistake which costs them their home and £20,000
DWP is facing criticism over its decision to prosecute unpaid carers who have overclaimed Carer's Allowance.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/dwp-claimants-make-30p-mistake-28987091

The bloke got all he deserved, he lied on an official document, it’s called benefit Fraud Syd, something I had assumed you would be conversant with!

What a lovely individual you are.

[SydneyRover]

Seriously Syd hope you weren't shopping at the Sydney Westgate today

Never go near it normally, what a terrible mess of peoples lives.

[Sprotyrover]

Here's another family on welfare, caring for his son and lost his home.

''DWP claimants make 30p mistake which costs them their home and £20,000
DWP is facing criticism over its decision to prosecute unpaid carers who have overclaimed Carer's Allowance.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/dwp-claimants-make-30p-mistake-28987091

The bloke got all he deserved, he lied on an official document, it’s called benefit Fraud Syd, something I had assumed you would be conversant with!

What a lovely individual you are.

Pearly! Read the report he applied for Carers Allowance as his Heroin addict son was being taxed by his dealers, he told the DWP he was not working and a full time Carer which is a lie, he continued working and claiming the benefit, now if you do make a claim and declare you are working you have to declare your earnings as you can only Earn £130 a week or less to qualify for the benefit. Clearly he didn’t do that so he committed benefit fraud, now kind.y explain how that makes me a bad person.

[SydneyRover]

Here's another family on welfare, caring for his son and lost his home.

''DWP claimants make 30p mistake which costs them their home and £20,000
DWP is facing criticism over its decision to prosecute unpaid carers who have overclaimed Carer's Allowance.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/cost-of-living/dwp-claimants-make-30p-mistake-28987091

The bloke got all he deserved, he lied on an official document, it’s called benefit Fraud Syd, something I had assumed you would be conversant with!

What a lovely individual you are.

Pearly! Read the report he applied for Careers Allowance as his Heroin addict son was being taxed by his dealers, he told the DWP he was not working and a full time Carer which is a lie, he continued working and claiming the benefit, now if you do make a claim and declare you are working you have to declare your earnings as you can only Earn £130 a week or less to qualify for the benefit. Clearly he didn’t do that so he committed benefit fraud, now kind.y explain how that makes me a bad person.

The son has learning difficulties as well as an addiction.

The father made a mistake filling out a complicated form and ticked a box incorrectly.

The DWP had many opportunities to contact the claimant and correct the error over many years, but they didn't. He was convicted of fraud for making a mistake.

''Carer convicted over benefit error worth 30p a week fights to clear his name
George Henderson had to sell his home to repay nearly £20,000, years after ticking wrong box on carer’s allowance form.

A carer who says he was “dragged through the courts” and had to sell his home to pay back almost £20,000 in benefit overpayments is fighting to clear his name after the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) acknowledged he made an innocent mistake.

George Henderson, 64, said he made a gain of just 30p a week while claiming carer’s allowance for his son John, who has learning difficulties and is addicted to heroin. He now costs the Treasury £1,000 a month more in benefits, having become homeless and too unwell to work.


Henderson said he was left suicidal after being prosecuted by the DWP, which accused him of fraudulently claiming the benefit for six years while he was caring for John, who is now 42.

He wrongly ticked a box saying he was unemployed while filling in the “tricky” application form for carer’s allowance in 2010. “I thought they were asking about John,” he told the Guardian.

The DWP has records of him working as a taxi driver since 2002, earning about £7.50 an hour. Yet it took more than six years for anyone at the department to tell him he was claiming the benefit incorrectly.

By that point he had claimed £19,506.20 – about £60 a week. The DWP not only wanted it all back but also prosecuted him for fraud. Investigators said he had lied about having a job and had ignored annual letters reminding him to report any changes in circumstances''

''Initially, John was claiming disability benefits worth about £60 a week. But Henderson soon realised that John’s drug dealers would wait by the cashpoint each week when he was paid, taking his money off him for heroin.

Henderson claimed that in 2010 a DWP official came to the house to assess John and they discussed the pros and cons of claiming carer’s allowance instead.

The new benefit was worth 30p a week more but meant Henderson could receive the money into his bank account and pay it to his son as a daily allowance, with the aim of stopping it being taken by the heroin dealers.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/12/carers-allowance-benefit-error-30p-a-week-dwp

[Sprotyrover]

Oh dear Sydney! You need to stop reading the shitty Guardian, that’s the worst piece of woke Journalism I have seen for a while!. Unfortunately I had the displeasure of working for the DWP for 9 months in 1997, The application forms are completed in bold lettering , he may even have been called in and a clerk has gone through it meticulously as they do! The multiple benefit Frauds mainly occur in London where you have millions of foreign born folks claiming fraudulently after having met the criteria of the lower learning limit for 24 months its a major industry down there.
Google the Benefit on line and the criteria is spelt out in plain simple English, his application was 100% fraudulent.

[SydneyRover]

I saved this bit for you sproty

''After his conviction in 2017, Henderson tried and failed to appeal. He was left homeless and had to be housed by the local council in sheltered accommodation, at a cost to the public purse. Too unwell to work, he now relies on universal credit, receiving £1,300 a month to cover his housing and living costs.

“Believe it or not, when I moved in I couldn’t get in and out of the bath because I’ve got two hip replacements and I’ve got a serious spinal condition. So it cost them £7,000 to put in a wet room. It’s costing them the universal credit. It’s absolutely ludicrous. It’s actually cost the taxpayer or the government money by doing this,” he said.

Recently, Henderson decided to try to clear his name and wrote to Mel Stride, the work and pensions secretary. Last month he received a letter from the DWP apologising for his ordeal but refusing to give him the money back.

The letter said: “The appeal conceded that you were a convincing and credible witness [and] it was more probable than not that you were telling the truth and that the false declaration was an innocent mistake.”

It went on: “I am so sorry that you feel that experiences with DWP have contributed to your financial problems, severe emotional trauma and mental health.”

It pays to read all of it and try to keep an open mind. There are no winners in this al all.

[Sprotyrover]

He was convicted, he appealed the case was re heard in Crown Court and he lost his appeal!
You condoning benefits fraud???

[Sprotyrover]

DWP forces carer to sell home or face jail to repay benefits https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46454305
The Origional trial was at Preston Crown so it was too serious for Magistates, he was convicted by a Judge and jury and then lost his appeal, so the evidence was compelling, how did he become homeless he sold his house and clearly made himself homeless the DWP used POCA to get their money back! Let that be a lesson to you Sydney!
Benefit Fraud does not Pay… in our country that is!

[SydneyRover]

He was convicted, he appealed the case was re heard in Crown Court and he lost his appeal!
You condoning benefits fraud???

No of course not, did I say that? The court found him guilty with evidence provided by the dwp then the dwp apologised and admitted it was a mistake and he was innocent, is there any part of that you are struggling with sprot?

[Sprotyrover]

He was convicted, he appealed the case was re heard in Crown Court and he lost his appeal!
You condoning benefits fraud???

No of course not, did I say that? The court found him guilty with evidence provided by the dwp then the dwp apologised and admitted it was a mistake and he was innocent, is there any part of that you are struggling with sprot?

So in summing up the Appeal judge said” The letter said: “The appeal conceded that you were a convincing and credible witness [and] it was more probable than not that you were telling the truth and that the false declaration was an innocent mistake.”

It went on: “I am so sorry that you feel that experiences with DWP have contributed to your financial problems, severe emotional trauma and mental health.””
So the judge must have said a great deal more because he lost his appeal, so the guilty verdict remained, what part of that don’t you understand
Some journo has been cherry picking the Judges speech .
By the way you haven’t shown me any admission from the DWP that they got it wrong?
“ im sorry you feel you experiences with the DWP have contributed to your mental health, is no admission of guilt.
Its a succinctly worded ‘Get stuffed!’

[SydneyRover]

It doesn't matter how you write it or explain or try to rationalise it these are the facts sprot

No of course not, did I say that? The court found him guilty with evidence provided by the dwp then the dwp apologised and admitted it was a mistake and he was innocent, is there any part of that you are struggling with sprot?

[Sprotyrover]

It doesn't matter how you write it or explain or try to rationalise it these are the facts sprot

No of course not, did I say that? The court found him guilty with evidence provided by the dwp then the dwp apologised and admitted it was a mistake and he was innocent, is there any part of that you are struggling with sprot?

Well he should be getting compensation and his money back , why hasn’t that happened?
By the way he got 6 letters every April over 6 years from the commencement of his claim asking him if there had been any change in his circumstances and those letters would clearly state a change in circumstances would be you are earning more than the permitted amount, and he never bothered to tell them he was earning far in excess of that!

[SydneyRover]

It doesn't matter how you write it or explain or try to rationalise it these are the facts sprot

No of course not, did I say that? The court found him guilty with evidence provided by the dwp then the dwp apologised and admitted it was a mistake and he was innocent, is there any part of that you are struggling with sprot?

Well he should be getting compensation and his money back , why hasn’t that happened?
By the way he got 6 letters every April over 6 years from the commencement of his claim asking him if there had been any change in his circumstances and those letters would clearly state a change in circumstances would be you are earning more than the permitted amount, and he never bothered to tell them he was earning far in excess of that!

Yes, thank you, you're welcome.