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drfcsteve

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Stadium
« on May 11, 2024, 05:48:48 pm by drfcsteve »
Apologies if I’ve missed this previously, but how have we reduced the capacity of the stadium so much?

We started off at 15,000 and last night was a sell out but less than 13,000 in attendance.

Not that we need the extra seats, but where have they gone? I’ve heard people say about some being removed for the big screen but surely not 2,000 seats?



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DonnyOsmond

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« Reply #1 on May 11, 2024, 06:17:24 pm by DonnyOsmond »
The South West corner in front of the screen was empty and much of the North West corner too.

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« Reply #2 on May 11, 2024, 06:18:52 pm by drfcsteve »
The South West corner in front of the screen was empty and much of the North West corner too.

Why was it “sold out” then if there were seats available? People buying tickets and not turning up?

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« Reply #3 on May 11, 2024, 06:18:55 pm by TonySoprano »
We've lost probably too many for the big screen, we've lost 500 due to unreserved in the black bank, which is a bit overzealous, and the segregation too was a bit overzealous aswell.

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« Reply #4 on May 11, 2024, 06:20:59 pm by johnny rovers »
Apologies if I’ve missed this previously, but how have we reduced the capacity of the stadium so much?

We started off at 15,000 and last night was a sell out but less than 13,000 in attendance.

Not that we need the extra seats, but where have they gone? I’ve heard people say about some being removed for the big screen but surely not 2,000 seats?

I'm glad I'm not the one to start this off. But I'll add my two pennarth.

The bottom ten or so rows of W32 block have had the seat backs removed to replace damaged ones around the ground, these have yet to be replaced. What I couldn't understand was why the back 12 or so rows weren't sold. Answer for the safety officer??

There are then another two smaller block W33 and W34 that were probably the buffer zone for segregation, even though that could have been altered for the empty corner sections that crewe didn't sell.

The netting under the screen wasn't removed, again more seats that could have been sold and weren't, again one for the safety officer to answer.

And lastly, the segregation between the fans in the middle of north stand was in my opinion way over the top. Manchester United and city and countless others use lines of stewards and thinner netting sections. The club opted to block off over 2/3rd of a block when it could and should have been less. Again for the safety officer to answer.

To round off, we should have had the opportunity to sell 700-800 more seats easily but something or some individuals don't want to change the norm. I do not know why?? Quite disappointing to be honest and lots of fans in the south stand said the same.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2024, 06:32:29 pm by johnny rovers »

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« Reply #5 on May 11, 2024, 06:27:52 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Apologies if I’ve missed this previously, but how have we reduced the capacity of the stadium so much?

We started off at 15,000 and last night was a sell out but less than 13,000 in attendance.

Not that we need the extra seats, but where have they gone? I’ve heard people say about some being removed for the big screen but surely not 2,000 seats?

I'm glad I'm not the one to start this off. But I'll add my two penath.

The bottom ten or so rows of W32 block have had the seat backs removed to replace damaged ones around the ground, these have yet to be replaced. What I couldn't understand was why the back 12 or so rows weren't sold. Answer for the safety officer??

There are then another two smaller block W33 and W34 that were probably the buffer zone for segregation, even though that could have been altered for the empty corner sections that crewe didn't sell.

The netting under the screen wasn't removed, again more seats that could have been sold and weren't, again one for the safety officer to answer.

And lastly, the segregation between the fans in the middle of north stand was in my opinion way over the top. Manchester United and city and countless others use lines of stewards and thinner netting sections. The club opted to block off over 2/3rd of a block when it could and should have been less. Again for the safety officer to answer.

To round off, we should have had the opportunity to sell 700-800 more seats easily but something or some individuals don't want to change the norm. I do not know why?? Quite disappointing to be honest and lots of fans in the south stand said the same.

Imagine what ever that Mexican advertising is the reason why.

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« Reply #6 on May 11, 2024, 06:29:52 pm by johnny rovers »
Apologies if I’ve missed this previously, but how have we reduced the capacity of the stadium so much?

We started off at 15,000 and last night was a sell out but less than 13,000 in attendance.

Not that we need the extra seats, but where have they gone? I’ve heard people say about some being removed for the big screen but surely not 2,000 seats?

I'm glad I'm not the one to start this off. But I'll add my two penath.

The bottom ten or so rows of W32 block have had the seat backs removed to replace damaged ones around the ground, these have yet to be replaced. What I couldn't understand was why the back 12 or so rows weren't sold. Answer for the safety officer??

There are then another two smaller block W33 and W34 that were probably the buffer zone for segregation, even though that could have been altered for the empty corner sections that crewe didn't sell.

The netting under the screen wasn't removed, again more seats that could have been sold and weren't, again one for the safety officer to answer.

And lastly, the segregation between the fans in the middle of north stand was in my opinion way over the top. Manchester United and city and countless others use lines of stewards and thinner netting sections. The club opted to block off over 2/3rd of a block when it could and should have been less. Again for the safety officer to answer.

To round off, we should have had the opportunity to sell 700-800 more seats easily but something or some individuals don't want to change the norm. I do not know why?? Quite disappointing to be honest and lots of fans in the south stand said the same.

Imagine what ever that Mexican advertising is the reason why.

Sorry??

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« Reply #7 on May 11, 2024, 06:35:26 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Seats removed to accommodate Big Screen and seats in front not used so screen isn't obscured (or damaged) @ 250

South Stand reduced capacity to accommodate unreserved seating by approx 250.

Crewe were in an area of the ground that can accommodate @2000 and they were short of selling their allocation so approx 700 to 800 short in that section. (Some used for segregation) The concourse is divided so we can't use their unsold seats.

A section of West stand, (North end) rarely used has had some seat parts used to repair others around the stadium. @250 not used.

Then from what I heard  the first row or two of the East Stand became 'restricted views' due to the height of the illuminated advertising boards so fans were given the choice to relocate their seats (not sure how many)
« Last Edit: May 11, 2024, 06:38:38 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »

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« Reply #8 on May 11, 2024, 06:42:01 pm by scawsby steve »
I said last week that the stadium capacity was now nowhere near 15000, and was poo-pooed by some, one poster even telling me I was scaremongering.

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« Reply #9 on May 11, 2024, 06:42:57 pm by Chris Black come back »
Apologies if I’ve missed this previously, but how have we reduced the capacity of the stadium so much?

We started off at 15,000 and last night was a sell out but less than 13,000 in attendance.

Not that we need the extra seats, but where have they gone? I’ve heard people say about some being removed for the big screen but surely not 2,000 seats?

I'm glad I'm not the one to start this off. But I'll add my two penath.

The bottom ten or so rows of W32 block have had the seat backs removed to replace damaged ones around the ground, these have yet to be replaced. What I couldn't understand was why the back 12 or so rows weren't sold. Answer for the safety officer??

There are then another two smaller block W33 and W34 that were probably the buffer zone for segregation, even though that could have been altered for the empty corner sections that crewe didn't sell.

The netting under the screen wasn't removed, again more seats that could have been sold and weren't, again one for the safety officer to answer.

And lastly, the segregation between the fans in the middle of north stand was in my opinion way over the top. Manchester United and city and countless others use lines of stewards and thinner netting sections. The club opted to block off over 2/3rd of a block when it could and should have been less. Again for the safety officer to answer.

To round off, we should have had the opportunity to sell 700-800 more seats easily but something or some individuals don't want to change the norm. I do not know why?? Quite disappointing to be honest and lots of fans in the south stand said the same.

Imagine what ever that Mexican advertising is the reason why.

Always a mystery to me how that ended up there. Not hugely effective either because probably now three season staring at that I’ve still not bothered to get on the internet to see what they are all about.

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« Reply #10 on May 11, 2024, 06:45:32 pm by johnny rovers »
Seats removed to accommodate Big Screen and seats in front not used so screen isn't obscured (or damaged) @ 250

South Stand reduced capacity to accommodate unreserved seating by approx 250.

Crewe were in an area of the ground that can accommodate @2000 and they were short of selling their allocation so approx 700 to 800 short in that section. (Some used for segregation) The concourse is divided so we can't use their unsold seats.

A section of West stand, (North end) rarely used has had some seat parts used to repair others around the stadium. @250 not used.

Then from what I heard  the first row or two of the East Stand became 'restricted views' due to the height of the illuminated advertising boards so fans were given the choice to relocate their seats (not sure how many)


Do you believe the netting between the fans was two wide?

For me the club should have explored a thinner section with more stewards. This could have given 200 more seats to home fans?

I disagree with the netting Infront of the screen somewhat. The back two rows of that corner section could have been netted off leaving approximately 5 to 6 rows  that are directly behind the south west corner access tunnel available for sale.

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« Reply #11 on May 11, 2024, 06:47:45 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Apologies if I’ve missed this previously, but how have we reduced the capacity of the stadium so much?

We started off at 15,000 and last night was a sell out but less than 13,000 in attendance.

Not that we need the extra seats, but where have they gone? I’ve heard people say about some being removed for the big screen but surely not 2,000 seats?

I'm glad I'm not the one to start this off. But I'll add my two pennarth.

The bottom ten or so rows of W32 block have had the seat backs removed to replace damaged ones around the ground, these have yet to be replaced. What I couldn't understand was why the back 12 or so rows weren't sold. Answer for the safety officer??

There are then another two smaller block W33 and W34 that were probably the buffer zone for segregation, even though that could have been altered for the empty corner sections that crewe didn't sell.

The netting under the screen wasn't removed, again more seats that could have been sold and weren't, again one for the safety officer to answer.

And lastly, the segregation between the fans in the middle of north stand was in my opinion way over the top. Manchester United and city and countless others use lines of stewards and thinner netting sections. The club opted to block off over 2/3rd of a block when it could and should have been less. Again for the safety officer to answer.

To round off, we should have had the opportunity to sell 700-800 more seats easily but something or some individuals don't want to change the norm. I do not know why?? Quite disappointing to be honest and lots of fans in the south stand said the same.

Can't agree with you re segregation being too over the top.

https://youtu.be/QDx5bV-8ILk?si=CBbvScay57K50Zg1

Adequate and sensible would be my choice.

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« Reply #12 on May 11, 2024, 06:49:42 pm by johnny rovers »
I said last week that the stadium capacity was now nowhere near 15000, and was poo-pooed by some, one poster even telling me I was scaremongering.

It's disappointing. We started off with a stadium that had a capacity of 15000. It's probably no more than 13500.

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« Reply #13 on May 11, 2024, 06:53:27 pm by johnny rovers »
Apologies if I’ve missed this previously, but how have we reduced the capacity of the stadium so much?

We started off at 15,000 and last night was a sell out but less than 13,000 in attendance.

Not that we need the extra seats, but where have they gone? I’ve heard people say about some being removed for the big screen but surely not 2,000 seats?

I'm glad I'm not the one to start this off. But I'll add my two pennarth.

The bottom ten or so rows of W32 block have had the seat backs removed to replace damaged ones around the ground, these have yet to be replaced. What I couldn't understand was why the back 12 or so rows weren't sold. Answer for the safety officer??

There are then another two smaller block W33 and W34 that were probably the buffer zone for segregation, even though that could have been altered for the empty corner sections that crewe didn't sell.

The netting under the screen wasn't removed, again more seats that could have been sold and weren't, again one for the safety officer to answer.

And lastly, the segregation between the fans in the middle of north stand was in my opinion way over the top. Manchester United and city and countless others use lines of stewards and thinner netting sections. The club opted to block off over 2/3rd of a block when it could and should have been less. Again for the safety officer to answer.

To round off, we should have had the opportunity to sell 700-800 more seats easily but something or some individuals don't want to change the norm. I do not know why?? Quite disappointing to be honest and lots of fans in the south stand said the same.

Can't agree with you re segregation being too over the top.

https://youtu.be/QDx5bV-8ILk?si=CBbvScay57K50Zg1

Adequate and sensible would be my choice.

So do you believe clubs that have a thinner segregation are less safe?

Whats your opinion on why the last 12 rows W33 not being sold? This is the block where the front 10 or so rows have been stripped for parts. To me these should have been sold, but we're not.

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« Reply #14 on May 11, 2024, 07:05:20 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Thinking about it the South and West did probably need separating with the South being unreserved. Probably easier to do that then people thinking reserved ones were available.

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« Reply #15 on May 11, 2024, 07:05:46 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
Apologies if I’ve missed this previously, but how have we reduced the capacity of the stadium so much?

We started off at 15,000 and last night was a sell out but less than 13,000 in attendance.

Not that we need the extra seats, but where have they gone? I’ve heard people say about some being removed for the big screen but surely not 2,000 seats?

I'm glad I'm not the one to start this off. But I'll add my two pennarth.

The bottom ten or so rows of W32 block have had the seat backs removed to replace damaged ones around the ground, these have yet to be replaced. What I couldn't understand was why the back 12 or so rows weren't sold. Answer for the safety officer??

There are then another two smaller block W33 and W34 that were probably the buffer zone for segregation, even though that could have been altered for the empty corner sections that crewe didn't sell.

The netting under the screen wasn't removed, again more seats that could have been sold and weren't, again one for the safety officer to answer.

And lastly, the segregation between the fans in the middle of north stand was in my opinion way over the top. Manchester United and city and countless others use lines of stewards and thinner netting sections. The club opted to block off over 2/3rd of a block when it could and should have been less. Again for the safety officer to answer.

To round off, we should have had the opportunity to sell 700-800 more seats easily but something or some individuals don't want to change the norm. I do not know why?? Quite disappointing to be honest and lots of fans in the south stand said the same.

Can't agree with you re segregation being too over the top.

https://youtu.be/QDx5bV-8ILk?si=CBbvScay57K50Zg1

Adequate and sensible would be my choice.

So do you believe clubs that have a thinner segregation are less safe?

Whats your opinion on why the last 12 rows W33 not being sold? This is the block where the front 10 or so rows have been stripped for parts. To me these should have been sold, but we're not.

I do yes. Maybe easier said unless you happen to be in the front line. I wouldn't want to be there would you?

I think they used W33 as additional segregation because of the seats.




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« Reply #16 on May 11, 2024, 07:13:18 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
I said last week that the stadium capacity was now nowhere near 15000, and was poo-pooed by some, one poster even telling me I was scaremongering.

It's disappointing. We started off with a stadium that had a capacity of 15000. It's probably no more than 13500.

Oh, and just to reiterate, in terms of revenue, the gate receipts from the play offs are pooled and we get a 20% share so we could do some maths once we decide what's adequate or inadequate segregation. I think the Safety Officer might come to a different conclusion.

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« Reply #17 on May 11, 2024, 07:14:03 pm by johnny rovers »
Apologies if I’ve missed this previously, but how have we reduced the capacity of the stadium so much?

We started off at 15,000 and last night was a sell out but less than 13,000 in attendance.

Not that we need the extra seats, but where have they gone? I’ve heard people say about some being removed for the big screen but surely not 2,000 seats?

I'm glad I'm not the one to start this off. But I'll add my two pennarth.

The bottom ten or so rows of W32 block have had the seat backs removed to replace damaged ones around the ground, these have yet to be replaced. What I couldn't understand was why the back 12 or so rows weren't sold. Answer for the safety officer??

There are then another two smaller block W33 and W34 that were probably the buffer zone for segregation, even though that could have been altered for the empty corner sections that crewe didn't sell.

The netting under the screen wasn't removed, again more seats that could have been sold and weren't, again one for the safety officer to answer.

And lastly, the segregation between the fans in the middle of north stand was in my opinion way over the top. Manchester United and city and countless others use lines of stewards and thinner netting sections. The club opted to block off over 2/3rd of a block when it could and should have been less. Again for the safety officer to answer.

To round off, we should have had the opportunity to sell 700-800 more seats easily but something or some individuals don't want to change the norm. I do not know why?? Quite disappointing to be honest and lots of fans in the south stand said the same.

Can't agree with you re segregation being too over the top.

https://youtu.be/QDx5bV-8ILk?si=CBbvScay57K50Zg1

Adequate and sensible would be my choice.

So do you believe clubs that have a thinner segregation are less safe?

Whats your opinion on why the last 12 rows W33 not being sold? This is the block where the front 10 or so rows have been stripped for parts. To me these should have been sold, but we're not.

I do yes. Maybe easier said unless you happen to be in the front line. I wouldn't want to be there would you?

I think they used W33 as additional segregation because of the seats.





Personally it wouldn't bother me.

Regarding W33, I still find this senseless to not sell the last 12 rows when segregation was enough for the following two blocks. Another opportunity to sell more seats, but we didn't. It's disappointing and raises further questions about some decisions for the full fan experience. There's lots of room for improvement and having the largest available capacity to sell tickets is one of them.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2024, 07:17:32 pm by johnny rovers »

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« Reply #18 on May 11, 2024, 07:16:18 pm by johnny rovers »
I said last week that the stadium capacity was now nowhere near 15000, and was poo-pooed by some, one poster even telling me I was scaremongering.

It's disappointing. We started off with a stadium that had a capacity of 15000. It's probably no more than 13500.

Oh, and just to reiterate, in terms of revenue, the gate receipts from the play offs are pooled and we get a 20% share so we could do some maths once we decide what's adequate or inadequate segregation. I think the Safety Officer might come to a different conclusion.

Yes, fully aware of this split on the gate receipts

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« Reply #19 on May 11, 2024, 07:26:27 pm by The Beast »
A section of West stand, (North end) rarely used has had some seat parts used to repair others around the stadium. @250 not used.
Sorry but this is pretty naf and tinpot, surely get them fixed properly and we could have got £3,000 plus income towards the repairs. The actual seat I was sat on was broken, gave my arse a right nip when Molyneux screwed it wide.

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« Reply #20 on May 11, 2024, 07:31:47 pm by johnny rovers »
A section of West stand, (North end) rarely used has had some seat parts used to repair others around the stadium. @250 not used.
Sorry but this is pretty naf and tinpot, surely get them fixed properly and we could have got £3,000 plus income towards the repairs. The actual seat I was sat on was broken, gave my arse a right nip when Molyneux screwed it wide.

Crowd funder to buy more seats backs to increase our capacity?? I'll even bring my tools down and fit them when they hopefully do the week longer stadium clean up done by the fans before the season starts

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« Reply #21 on May 11, 2024, 07:36:43 pm by ravenrover »
No comments on how clean the piss pots were

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« Reply #22 on May 11, 2024, 07:45:14 pm by WheatleyRover »
I might be wrong, but it didn't look like the East South corner was netted off, so why under the big screen?

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« Reply #23 on May 11, 2024, 07:49:05 pm by johnny rovers »
I might be wrong, but it didn't look like the East South corner was netted off, so why under the big screen?

Over zealous netting. I agree there should have been some (two rows) to make sure no one stood Infront of the screen to impede the views of the reduced capacity crowd but 6 rows could have been sold and we're not! Again, why??

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« Reply #24 on May 11, 2024, 07:54:11 pm by Nudga »
So basically we will never have a repeat of the Leeds attendance because seats are cut massively.

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« Reply #25 on May 11, 2024, 07:57:37 pm by wilts rover »
As far as I am aware the whole stadium is being used for the RL Challenge Cup semi-final with minimum - if any - segregation. Bound to sell-out with two well supported teams playing - so you will see what the current capacity is with the Hull KR - Wigan attendence next week.

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« Reply #26 on May 11, 2024, 08:00:55 pm by River Don »
I never understood, why when they were constructing the stadium, crowd segregation didn't seem to be considered in the design. I'm sure there might have been some useful physical divides that might have been useful and flexible in accommodating away crowds.

Oh well. There is a saying that you have to build a thing before you discover how it should have been built.

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« Reply #27 on May 11, 2024, 08:01:21 pm by johnny rovers »
As far as I am aware the whole stadium is being used for the RL Challenge Cup semi-final with minimum - if any - segregation. Bound to sell-out with two well supported teams playing - so you will see what the current capacity is with the Hull KR - Wigan attendence next week.

It will be interesting to see if the big screen gets fixed to show replays, as this will be a requirement for the video ref. It would be highly embarrassing if another screen has to be hired in because a relatively expensive part hasn't been purchased to show replays. Hope I'm wrong and the big screen gets fixed for the challenge cup semi final

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« Reply #28 on May 11, 2024, 08:02:40 pm by johnny rovers »
So basically we will never have a repeat of the Leeds attendance because seats are cut massively.

Not with the current incumbent who is the safety officer, not even close!

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« Reply #29 on May 11, 2024, 08:09:38 pm by roversontheup »
I said last week that the stadium capacity was now nowhere near 15000, and was poo-pooed by some, one poster even telling me I was scaremongering.

It's disappointing. We started off with a stadium that had a capacity of 15000. It's probably no more than 13500.

Oh, and just to reiterate, in terms of revenue, the gate receipts from the play offs are pooled and we get a 20% share so we could do some maths once we decide what's adequate or inadequate segregation. I think the Safety Officer might come to a different conclusion.

Yes, fully aware of this split on the gate receipts

The FA or EFL take quite a percentage of the gate receipts so the 4 teams don’t get anywhere near 20%.

 

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