Euro 2024

[i_ateallthepies]

Apologies for taking this off topic for a moment but in that all-time classic sketch there was one detail that has eluded me until seeing this snapshot - Ernie's expression.  It is the smug look of someone thinking 'that's really told him!'

They always said he was the prefect foil for Eric and this shows it to perfection.  Total class.

[Colin C No.3]

Apparently Eric would watch the shows back at home with his family & in a documentary about him one of his sons said in those moments he would always say “Wasn’t Ernie fantastic”.

We’ll never see their likes again.

[GazLaz]

I think that Italy equaliser means England have qualified for the 2nd round regardless of Tuesday's result.

It does bit if we finish second we play Germany. Suboptimal.

[BillyStubbsTears]

I think that Italy equaliser means England have qualified for the 2nd round regardless of Tuesday's result.

It does bit if we finish second we play Germany. Suboptimal.

Yeah but we have to pl...

[Little Wolf]

Thought Austria might suprise a few people but never thought they would win the group with the french and dutch in it

[Filo]

Gallagher in for Trent, hardly the bold move we were wanting to see

[Little Wolf]

Gallagher in for Trent, hardly the bold move we were wanting to see

Its what i expected, we were better when gallagher came on last match but i thought gordon might get the nod to balance the team on the left, stop saka on the right ,stop england and everybody knows it

[BillyStubbsTears]

Christ this is cack.

Exactly like us first half of the season.

Ponderous.

No pace.

Worst of all, no mester in the entire side prepared to set a f**king example by upping the standard. Everyone looking at someone else to do summat.

[dickos1]

Big improvement in second half
Mainoo and palmer need to start the next game

[NickDRFC]

Big improvement in second half
Mainoo and palmer need to start the next game

I live my life as a glass half full kind of guy but my word, I doff my cap to you. I don’t disagree with what you say here but that is absolutely not my biggest takeaway from tonight.

[Colin C No.3]

Christ this is cack.

Exactly like us first half of the season.

Ponderous.

No pace.

Worst of all, no mester in the entire side prepared to set a f**king example by upping the standard. Everyone looking at someone else to do summat.

You love ‘your mesters’ yet last week you were drooling about Bellingham being the first England player in decades who could grab a game by the neck & influence the outcome.

What do you want, Norman Hunter or Bobby Charlton!

[Colin C No.3]

Big improvement in second half
Mainoo and palmer need to start the next game

Lino on the far side had a much better second half.

[BillyStubbsTears]

England's R2 opponents will be one of:

Netherlands
Turkey
Czechia
Georgia.

Can only be Netherlands if both Czechia and Georgia fail to win tomorrow. Or if one of them wins and there's a very particular set of results in the Group E matches.

Then in QF it's Italy or Switzerland.

In semi, likely to be Belgium or Austria unless there's an upset.

If we'd finished second in the group, it would have been:

R2 Germany
QF Probably Spain
SF Probably France or Portugal.

Lady luck is smiling on the English half of the draw again.

According to the bookies, the hardest matches we could have from here to the final are three games against 18/1 shots for the tournament.

If we'd finished second, it would have been more like three games against 5/1 contenders.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Christ this is cack.

Exactly like us first half of the season.

Ponderous.

No pace.

Worst of all, no mester in the entire side prepared to set a f**king example by upping the standard. Everyone looking at someone else to do summat.

You love ‘your mesters’ yet last week you were drooling about Bellingham being the first England player in decades who could grab a game by the neck & influence the outcome.

What do you want, Norman Hunter or Bobby Charlton!

I don't think you quite get what "mester" means.

It's not necessarily someone who runs round and kicks the f**k out of opponents.

It's someone who can dominate a game through setting a standard.

Griezmann was the mester for France when they beat us in the last WC. Because he put in a performance better than anyone else on the pitch and made the difference. He demanded that if himself.

Bellingham looked like he had that about him for 45 mins against Serbia.

Since then he's looked like a kid wandering round lost.

It's very much up to him to find the performances he's capable of. And a few others to step up too.

[Bentley Bullet]

We're unbeaten and top of the table, so we haven't yet needed to step up. It's likely that in the next game, we will need to. Hopefully, then Bellingham & Co will step up and deliver.

If they do, Southgate will have managed the team brilliantly.

[BillyStubbsTears]

England's R2 opponents will be one of:

Netherlands
Turkey
Czechia
Georgia.

Can only be Netherlands if both Czechia and Georgia fail to win tomorrow. Or if one of them wins and there's a very particular set of results in the Group E matches.

Then in QF it's Italy or Switzerland.

In semi, likely to be Belgium or Austria unless there's an upset.

If we'd finished second in the group, it would have been:

R2 Germany
QF Probably Spain
SF Probably France or Portugal.

Lady luck is smiling on the English half of the draw again.

According to the bookies, the hardest matches we could have from here to the final are three games against 18/1 shots for the tournament.

If we'd finished second, it would have been more like three games against 5/1 contenders.

What this means is that, for all that England haven't been good, they are now short priced favourites to reach the final, while at least 3 of Germany, Spain, France and Portugal won't do.

[drfchound]

I suppose that if we do end up winnng the tournament it will be because we got lucky with the draw.

[Bentley Bullet]

I suppose that if we do end up winnng the tournament it will be because we got lucky with the draw.

Absof**kinglutely.

[BillyStubbsTears]

So now England will play Netherlands in R2, unless

Georgia beat Portugal
Or
Czechia beat Turkey by one goal.

In that case, England would play Slovakia.

But the bottom half of the draw is now looking better than you could have dreamed.

[NigelJ]

So now England will play Netherlands in R2, unless

Georgia beat Portugal
Or
Czechia beat Turkey by one goal.

In that case, England would play Slovakia.

But the bottom half of the draw is now looking better than you could have dreamed.

As Turkey have scored more than Hungary already, they can lose by two, and still be better than them, so the above is correct, apart from the Czechs can't win by more than two in order for us to play Slovakia.

[BillyStubbsTears]

So now England will play Netherlands in R2, unless

Georgia beat Portugal
Or
Czechia beat Turkey by one goal.

In that case, England would play Slovakia.

But the bottom half of the draw is now looking better than you could have dreamed.

As Turkey have scored more than Hungary already, they can lose by two, and still be better than them, so the above is correct, apart from the Czechs can't win by more than two in order for us to play Slovakia.

Yes, good spot.

[StocksArmy]

Could someone explain how the draws are worked out and how tonight's results affect who we will play? I am aware that there are two halves of the draw but am unsure how it has been done.

[Chris Black come back]

So now England will play Netherlands in R2, unless

Georgia beat Portugal
Or
Czechia beat Turkey by one goal.

In that case, England would play Slovakia.

But the bottom half of the draw is now looking better than you could have dreamed.

Georgia one up.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Could someone explain how the draws are worked out and how tonight's results affect who we will play? I am aware that there are two halves of the draw but am unsure how it has been done.

It's... complicated.

Which 3rd place teams play who, depends on which 3rd place teams qualify.

Basically, if Hungary qualify, England play Netherlands.

If a side from Group F qualifies and displaces Hungary, England play Slovakia.

[StocksArmy]

Could someone explain how the draws are worked out and how tonight's results affect who we will play? I am aware that there are two halves of the draw but am unsure how it has been done.

It's... complicated.

Which third-place teams play who depends on which third-place teams qualify.

Basically, if Hungary qualifies, England plays the Netherlands.

If a side from Group F qualifies and displaces Hungary, England plays Slovakia.

Yes, it is. How they have come to this conclusion is what I can't understand. I have done some digging online and still can't find an explanation.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Look at the table at the start of the Knockout Phase section here.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2024

[scawsby steve]

2-0 to Georgia. It looks like we'll be playing Slovakia.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Georgia were absolutely superb tonight.

[Campsall rover]

2-0 to Georgia. It looks like we'll be playing Slovakia.

Yes we have got lucky.
If Denmark had scored last night then we would probably be going home after the next match.
Now we have an unbelievable opportunity to get to the final.

If it’s Slovakia next then they will play very much like our last 3 opponents. Will Southgate play Either Palmer or Gordon or even both.
For me he has to. If he doesn’t and we are not winning at H/T then he needs to make the subs early.
So bring them on at H/T not 75/85 mins.
Southgate you have the biggest opportunity to be a Euro winning manager. Don’t blow it. Be bold just for once in your life and grasp this once in a lifetime opportunity.
Over to you GS.
Bring it home.

Oh yes people will say we only won it because we only had one difficult game to play in the whole tournament. The Final, probably either France, Spain, Portugal or Germany as opponents if we actually do make it there.

[Branton Red]

Really enjoyed watching Georgia this evening. Great performance. Thoroughly deserved win.