Immigration

[TonySoprano]

What's Labour's plan to stop the thousands of illegal immigrants every year ?
All I've heard is they rather pathetically plan to scrap the Rwanda plan.

All I see is them rolling out the red carpet for them

[Herbert Anchovy]

What's Labour's plan to stop the thousands of illegal immigrants every year ?
All I've heard is they rather pathetically plan to scrap the Rwanda plan.

All I see is them rolling out the red carpet for them

What do you think should be done Tony?

Do you think Reforms plan to put them back onto a beach in France (which the French won’t agree with btw) is feasible?

[Bentley Bullet]

Is it feasible that we should agree to them landing on our beaches?

[Herbert Anchovy]

Is it feasible that we should agree to them landing on our beaches?

No, but they are BB. So what should be done to stop it?

[sf9944]

If we weren’t an island and immigrants could simply walk into the country as of course they can and do across much of Europe would people still be so outraged by their arrival? Would they even be aware of their arrival. Is it because people regard our beaches as somehow sacrosanct? Or is it because people are so worried for their safety as they make the dangerous crossing?

[Bentley Bullet]

Is it feasible that we should agree to them landing on our beaches?

No, but they are BB. So what should be done to stop it?

We should have a proper deterrent. Deterrents aren't meant to be nice, otherwise, they're not deterrents!

Now isn't the time for namby-pamby, Jessie do-gooders.

[normal rules]

Turkey already have a deal with the Afghan govt to send back Afghan nationals. They have sent back tens of thousands since the Taliban took back power.
You can fly to Kabul indirect via Turkey. The money spent on the current situation would be well spent looking at this as an option.

[sf9944]

Sounds like a good shout

[DonnyOsmond]

Is it feasible that we should agree to them landing on our beaches?

No, but they are BB. So what should be done to stop it?

We should have a proper deterrent. Deterrents aren't meant to be nice, otherwise, they're not deterrents!

Now isn't the time for namby-pamby, Jessie do-gooders.

What if someone wants to claim asylum here as they speak English and have family here? Do we deter them? Or do we process their claim?

[sf9944]

I think language and family connections here are the reasons many want to come

[BillyStubbsTears]

And of course it would be.

If you've escaped from a war zone and are wanting to rebuild your life in another country, wouldn't you want to do that in a country where you spoke the language and knew people?

[SydneyRover]

Turkey already have a deal with the Afghan govt to send back Afghan nationals. They have sent back tens of thousands since the Taliban took back power.
You can fly to Kabul indirect via Turkey. The money spent on the current situation would be well spent looking at this as an option.

Turkey has over 3.5m refugees in its country

[sf9944]

I know quite a few Brits who have moved to live abroad for a better quality of life. I don’t know any that have moved abroad to escape poverty, persecution or war thankfully.

Many choose to live in countries like Spain and don’t learn the language but surround themselves with other brits so it doesn’t really matter.

[SydneyRover]

I know quite a few Brits who have moved to live abroad for a better quality of life. I don’t know any that have moved abroad to escape poverty, persecution or war thankfully.

Many choose to live in countries like Spain and don’t learn the language but surround themselves with other brits so it doesn’t really matter.

Read up about Ireland during the potato famine and Scotland during the clearances.Oh and not forgetting when America stopped accepting convicts they were shipped to NSW.

[DonnyOsmond]

Is it feasible that we should agree to them landing on our beaches?

No, but they are BB. So what should be done to stop it?

We should have a proper deterrent. Deterrents aren't meant to be nice, otherwise, they're not deterrents!

Now isn't the time for namby-pamby, Jessie do-gooders.

What if someone wants to claim asylum here as they speak English and have family here? Do we deter them? Or do we process their claim?

If we're happy to accept these people then how do they claim asylum so they're able to be processed because currently it's catch-22 if they can't fly, you can only claim asylum if you get to the UK but if you come on a boat then as of July 2023 you're an illegal immigrant.

[Herbert Anchovy]

I think that we can see from the responses on this thread just how difficult it will be to solve this issue for whoever is PM on Friday morning. I don’t pretend to know much about it, but in my view we are going to need to rely on immigrants more and more so our priority should be to create an application process that is prompt and that actually works and to also work collectively with Europe to put the criminal gangs away. It’s a difficult one for sure though,

[Colemans Left Hook]

That's because of all the poverty he suffered in his childhood. His dad was only a poor toolmaker you know?

finally I have refound this little gem

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=291576.0

[normal rules]

Turkey already have a deal with the Afghan govt to send back Afghan nationals. They have sent back tens of thousands since the Taliban took back power.
You can fly to Kabul indirect via Turkey. The money spent on the current situation would be well spent looking at this as an option.

Turkey has over 3.5m refugees in its country

It also has a population of over 85 million . Turkey is also severely hampered geographically when it comes to accessibility for refugees.

[SydneyRover]

Turkey already have a deal with the Afghan govt to send back Afghan nationals. They have sent back tens of thousands since the Taliban took back power.
You can fly to Kabul indirect via Turkey. The money spent on the current situation would be well spent looking at this as an option.

Turkey has over 3.5m refugees in its country

It also has a population of over 85 million . Turkey is also severely hampered geographically when it comes to accessibility for refugees.

Not sure how that effects the massive numbers of refugees they have nr?

[TonySoprano]

Seriously, what's Labour's plan to stop illegal immigration?

[DonnyOsmond]

Seriously, what's Labour's plan to stop illegal immigration?

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=whats+labours+plan+to+stop+illegal+immigration%3F

[sf9944]

Seriously, what's Labour's plan to stop illegal immigration?

I've heard Labour describe their plans to reduce immigration generally and to tackle so called illegal immigration on multiple occasions throughout this campaign.

I've also heard them describe their plans on pretty much every other issue.

I'm genuinely confused why people keep saying they have no plan. Fair enough if you disagree with their plan by the way.

[DonnyOsmond]

Seriously, what's Labour's plan to stop illegal immigration?

I've heard Labour describe their plans to reduce immigration generally and to tackle so called illegal immigration on multiple occasions throughout this campaign.

I've also heard them describe their plans on pretty much every other issue.

I'm genuinely confused why people keep saying they have no plan. Fair enough if you disagree with their plan by the way.

They're raising taxes by £2,000 too.

[TonySoprano]

Seriously, what's Labour's plan to stop illegal immigration?

I've heard Labour describe their plans to reduce immigration generally and to tackle so called illegal immigration on multiple occasions throughout this campaign.

I've also heard them describe their plans on pretty much every other issue.

I'm genuinely confused why people keep saying they have no plan. Fair enough if you disagree with their plan by the way.

Seriously, again. What is their plan ?
I've only heard they plan to scrap the Rwanda plan, which will be a waste of money and just remove the only deterent we have.

[SydneyRover]

Seriously, what's Labour's plan to stop illegal immigration?

I've heard Labour describe their plans to reduce immigration generally and to tackle so called illegal immigration on multiple occasions throughout this campaign.

I've also heard them describe their plans on pretty much every other issue.

I'm genuinely confused why people keep saying they have no plan. Fair enough if you disagree with their plan by the way.

Seriously, again. What is their plan ?
I've only heard they plan to scrap the Rwanda plan, which will be a waste of money and just remove the only deterent we have.

Serious question Tony, are you running the tory campaign?

[Bentley Bullet]

I think language and family connections here are the reasons many want to come

Almost 1 in 5 people speak English globally. More people speak English than any other language. To have the ability to speak English as justification to come and live here would sink us.

[Ldr]

I think language and family connections here are the reasons many want to come

So a choice then

[sf9944]

I think language and family connections here are the reasons many want to come

Almost 1 in 5 people speak English globally. More people speak English than any other language. To have the ability to speak English as justification to come and live here would sink us.

Good point BB. What do you think about those that have family already here living as citizens. Should they be allowed in?

[sf9944]

Seriously, what's Labour's plan to stop illegal immigration?

I've heard Labour describe their plans to reduce immigration generally and to tackle so called illegal immigration on multiple occasions throughout this campaign.

I've also heard them describe their plans on pretty much every other issue.

I'm genuinely confused why people keep saying they have no plan. Fair enough if you disagree with their plan by the way.

Seriously, again. What is their plan ?
I've only heard they plan to scrap the Rwanda plan, which will be a waste of money and just remove the only deterent we have.

They are telling people what their plan is and have been throughout the campaign. You can disagree with the plan but you can’t say they haven’t got one

[BillyStubbsTears]

Seriously, what's Labour's plan to stop illegal immigration?

I've heard Labour describe their plans to reduce immigration generally and to tackle so called illegal immigration on multiple occasions throughout this campaign.

I've also heard them describe their plans on pretty much every other issue.

I'm genuinely confused why people keep saying they have no plan. Fair enough if you disagree with their plan by the way.

Seriously, again. What is their plan ?
I've only heard they plan to scrap the Rwanda plan, which will be a waste of money and just remove the only deterent we have.

What about you use this thing called the Internet to go and look for yourself?