Tory leadership race

[BillyStubbsTears]

Going to be an intellectual heavyweight contest.

Braverman this morning.

"There's going to be a lot of dark clouds on the horizon. Caused by Keir Starmer."

[Not Now Kato]

Tory, who lost his seat, being interviewed this morning recons their next leader will just be a place holder before electing a 'real' leader to take on Labour at the next GE. I wonder who he was thinking of for the 'real' job.....

[Bentley Bullet]

Initially, Jeremy Hunt.

Eventually, Boris Johnson.

[SydneyRover]

Initially, Jeremy Hunt.

Eventually, Boris Johnson.

not in yours or my lifetime

[drfchound]

Initially, Jeremy Hunt.

Eventually, Boris Johnson.

not in yours or my lifetime

Syd, don’t do it.
It isn’t worth it.

[Filo]

I reckon Sunak will resign his safe seat,piss off to America and leave the door open for Johnson to return

[SydneyRover]

I reckon Sunak will resign his safe seat,piss off to America and leave the door open for Johnson to return

Can't see it myself Filo, they're traditional tories up there, he's liar a criminal and all the rest ...........

[BillyStubbsTears]

Anyone who thinks Johnson is coming back really doesn't get Johnson.

The job of being LotO after a towsing like this is hard, long and thankless. It requires discipline and very hard work to r build the party. There's no glamour and probably no reward because it's usually something that takes several different people to achieve.

You reckon the lying man-child has got any interest in that while he's getting paid £250k a month for writing b*llocks in the Mail and Telegraph for his disciples to lap up?

[ravenrover]

Reported in his Mail column that maybe they shouldn't have got rid of a succesfull vote winning leader, was there also a suggestion of a I'll be back?
Let's wait and see Billy, 5 years is a long time in politics and people have short memories

[Colemans Left Hook]

Before the results  were declared I told you all who my 2 against the field were

TT was in a very very very safe seat  and the Labour candidate's odds  for Jenrick's seat were 4 to one on to win -- meaning put £1 on Labour to win  25 pence    ---  How on earth did he win that seat and why did Coleman make such a mad prediction !!!   you think  --   

BST finally twigged Jenrick yesterday and since the Joe public (THE ONE'S WHO KNOW- NOT JOE PUBLIC) haVE backed him in to 4/1 about the same price as TT. You may recall I favored  TT the last time he competed

it's between Tom  (TT  as in TT race ) & Jenrick  in my world

turned out nice

and the race has begun already !!!

[tyke1962]

Could be quite a few Tory leaders coming and going over the next five years , they burn PM's pretty regularly chances are leaders in opposition will be even more replaceable .

I'd go as far as to say that the next winning Tory leader isn't even involved in politics right now .

[Colemans Left Hook]

Before the results  were declared I told you all who my 2 against the field were

TT was in a very very very safe seat  and the Labour candidate's odds  for Jenrick's seat were 4 to one on to win -- meaning put £1 on Labour to win  25 pence    ---  How on earth did he win that seat and why did Coleman make such a mad prediction !!!   you think  --   

BST finally twigged Jenrick yesterday and since the Joe public (THE ONE'S WHO KNOW- NOT JOE PUBLIC) haVE backed him in to 4/1 about the same price as TT. You may recall I favored  TT the last time he competed

it's between Tom  (TT  as in TT race ) & Jenrick  in my world

turned out nice

and the race has begun already !!!

big Big changes yesterday for obvious reasons   - I wrote this leadership "evolving leadership script"  a long long time ago " and even mentioned an unnamed person ( if Starmer can keep his children's names secret it justified me not telling you who I had backed at stratospheric odds  apart from him being male --

I mentioned  it on here 3 to 4  months ago but didn't let the cat out of the bag who he was - A lot of my time is going to be taken up on hedging  (only without a pair of shears)

there is talk Braverman with eventually defect after losing her backer

[TonySoprano]

Going to be an intellectual heavyweight contest.

Braverman this morning.

"There's going to be a lot of dark clouds on the horizon. Caused by Keir Starmer."

She's absolutely correct, and if she's the next leader of the Conservatives, then hopefully they will become Conservative again, and get my vote.

[SydneyRover]

Going to be an intellectual heavyweight contest.

Braverman this morning.

"There's going to be a lot of dark clouds on the horizon. Caused by Keir Starmer."

She's absolutely correct, and if she's the next leader of the Conservatives, then hopefully they will become Conservative again, and get my vote.

Tony, can you give me an approx date when you were happy with the conservatives to help define what it is you want. What were their best years?

[BillyStubbsTears]

Going to be an intellectual heavyweight contest.

Braverman this morning.

"There's going to be a lot of dark clouds on the horizon. Caused by Keir Starmer."

She's absolutely correct, and if she's the next leader of the Conservatives, then hopefully they will become Conservative again, and get my vote.

I really, really hope you are right that she becomes their leader and they get your vote.

Nothing would please me more. That puts them out of power until the end of the next decade.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Yes she has no chance of ever being a successful leader.

Don't discount Boris. He won't want in now but 2-3 years when there's not so long to go and labours honeymoon wears off, it wouldn't surprise me.

[danumdon]

Yes she has no chance of ever being a successful leader.

Don't discount Boris. He won't want in now but 2-3 years when there's not so long to go and labours honeymoon wears off, it wouldn't surprise me.

Sounds just like my boss, nowhere to be seen whilst there's plenty to be done but always manages to turn up when the jobs complete and the big chief has come in to see where we are.

[colfromdonny]

Give it a couple of years and a safeish tory by election seat for Penny Mordaunt to parachute in.

[Colemans Left Hook]

Give it a couple of years and a safeish tory by election seat for Penny Mordaunt to parachute in.

Nah she will be shipped  in

she's thinking "If I could turn back time"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n3A_-HRFfc

[SydneyRover]

Yes she has no chance of ever being a successful leader.

Don't discount Boris. He won't want in now but 2-3 years when there's not so long to go and labours honeymoon wears off, it wouldn't surprise me.

So you don't accuse me of anything pud, do you actually like the man, are your posts about johnson showing a genuine preference for the man in the hope that he can resurrect a broken party that now exists in name only. None of the above and you are projecting that others may forgive him following a litany of failures?

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

Don't care for him either way really. He's not as bad as some make out, not as good as others do. Too disorganised to get things done but he's a good campaigner, don't discount that.

[SydneyRover]

Don't care for him either way really. He's not as bad as some make out, not as good as others do. Too disorganised to get things done but he's a good campaigner, don't discount that.

In that case I may put myself up for beatification

[BillyStubbsTears]

Don't care for him either way really. He's not as bad as some make out, not as good as others do. Too disorganised to get things done but he's a good campaigner, don't discount that.

In other words, precisely the living embodiment of why our politics has gone so horrendously wrong.

All image and no practical substance. All flash bang and no disciplined hard work.

God help us if he ever comes back. But he won't of course, because the path for the Tories to become electable again requires them to do a lot of boring, hard, disciplined work.

[SydneyRover]

Although you can never say never ..............

Italy: Milan airport to be named after former late PM Berlusconi

https://timesofoman.com/article/147496-italy-milan-airport-to-be-named-after-former-late-pm-berlusconi#:~:text=Milan%3A%20The%20main%20international%20airport,and%20business%20tycoon%2C%20Silvio%20Berlusconi.

Maybe Thames Water or such like could be renamed in johnson's honour?

[Colemans Left Hook]

Going to be an intellectual heavyweight contest.

Braverman this morning.

"There's going to be a lot of dark clouds on the horizon. Caused by Keir Starmer."

did she mention skeletons in the cupboard

[ncRover]

Going to be an intellectual heavyweight contest.

Braverman this morning.

"There's going to be a lot of dark clouds on the horizon. Caused by Keir Starmer."

did she mention skeletons in the cupboard

If someone has the same views and opinions all their life they aren’t thinking for themselves

[BillyStubbsTears]

I see Braverman has gone all in on the line that the Tories lost because they were right wing enough.

https://x.com/NatConTalk/status/1810384345720614980

That might win her the leadership. Good luck with persuading the country beyond a couple of wannabe fascists in here.

[SydneyRover]

I see Braverman has gone all in on the line that the Tories lost because they were right wing enough.

https://x.com/NatConTalk/status/1810384345720614980

That might win her the leadership. Good luck with persuading the country beyond a couple of wannabe fascists in here.

They'll be fighting as rats in sack for pole position for a while, some of the stuff that is pouring from a few of those left and those out of seats is nuts and rudderless. They don't appear to know themselves which part of the spectrum they should be in or move to.

I'm enjoying reading what labour's plans are and appreciate how much work they must have put in preparing for this moment.

[i_ateallthepies]

If they don't know which part of the spectrum they should be in, Sidders, then they shouldn't be anywhere near power.  Some t**t making his choices that way is what gave us Brexit.

[SydneyRover]

Couldn't agree more.