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Presumably Gareth isn’t going to continue who will the FA appoint next?

A Yes Man
11 (11.2%)
Eddie Howe
26 (26.5%)
Graham Potter
19 (19.4%)
Frank Lampard
3 (3.1%)
A decent foreign manager like Klopp or Pep?
39 (39.8%)

Total Members Voted: 98

Voting closed: July 20, 2024, 12:35:36 pm

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Branton Rover

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Who’s next for England job
« on July 15, 2024, 12:35:36 pm by Branton Rover »
Personally speaking  I think we need to appoint a manager/coach who can get the best out of our young attacking talent. I don’t think it will happen but I’d push the boat out for Pep. After all there’s not a ready made English replacement knocking down the door to take over.



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rtid88

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #1 on July 15, 2024, 12:46:24 pm by rtid88 »
100% agree. Our squad of players IMO was better than any other in that tournament and Southgate for all the good he did, didn't get the best out of them from an attacking sense.

Would love for us to go all out and get Klopp or Poch but in reality who would want the England job with the abuse that a person in that position receives.

steve@dcfd

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #2 on July 15, 2024, 12:52:51 pm by steve@dcfd »
Can’t see a non English manager wanting the job the abuse they would get would be worst than Southgate. Also if was an ex or current premier league manager tribalism would take over. So it will be interesting see if Gareth goes what manager would accept the job.Then get the best of the players after an hard Premier league or European club season.

DonnyBazR0ver

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #3 on July 15, 2024, 01:47:46 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
It comes down to what we as a nation want. Do we want a better match tactician who believes in a system and will pick players to suit the system OR  someone who harvests the best talent and tries to mould them into a team?

One thing Gareth hasn't Bern afraid of is blooding young talent, irrespective of the clubs they play for. He's risen above the club v country, not necessarily favouring players from the big 6 etc., or just favouring 'form' players.

The transition of players from youth to u21s to the senior team has been much better.

I wonder if Gareth still has a role in identifying and developing the talent through the system thereby providing a first team coach with the talent he needs to compete on the international stage?

Chris Black come back

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #4 on July 15, 2024, 01:48:32 pm by Chris Black come back »
Would be more than a little surprised if it isn’t Potter next up.

Alan Southstand

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #5 on July 15, 2024, 01:55:59 pm by Alan Southstand »
Gareth needs to resign. He’s done his best and we continue to fall short.

There is a very large pool to pick from but when he’s selected some, he’s then refused to play them. Not the best use of the squad and a different manager may well get better use out of all the players selected.

End of the road - move on. We need a much better tactician who develops the players into a pattern and are schooled into what happens if plans isn’t working!

MachoMadness

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #6 on July 15, 2024, 01:57:25 pm by MachoMadness »
I'd be happy with Potter. Ticks a lot of the boxes we need - good man manager, articulate, and apparently he is excellent on the training ground, so can get players working to his system in a relatively short space of time. He's also adaptable.

Not sure Klopp and Poch are the answer. Great managers, yes, but they are highly system-driven and meticulous. You don't get the time on the training ground to get teams playing the way Klopp's Liverpool played. You can't just go out and sign players of a particular profile to make your system work either, you have to work with the players you have.

Maybe they could adapt to work at the international level, after all they are great managers, but it's far from a sure thing.

colincramb

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #7 on July 15, 2024, 02:07:56 pm by colincramb »
I’d be very surprised if they didn’t promote Lee carsley if Southgate walks.

KeithMyath

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #8 on July 15, 2024, 02:32:58 pm by KeithMyath »
I can think of 4.8 million reasons why someone would want to manage England. Best paid part time job in the country in my eyes. Crazy we are paying that to Southgate who would struggle to find a managerial job in the premier league. He literally has never achieved anything in football management, in terms of achievements or even a brand of football. Fair play to him, hes made a shed load of money and if anything over achieved in competitions while under achieving in terms of football played. Eddie Howe should have had the job years ago, and he would be my man now.

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #9 on July 15, 2024, 02:41:28 pm by Chris Black come back »
International managers are a curious breed, granted. But if anyone was to list their top 50 managers globally, would Potter and Howe be on that list? Maybe in the bottom reaches.

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #10 on July 15, 2024, 03:02:13 pm by DearneValleyRover »
Think it’s nailed on to be Potter

Little Wolf

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #11 on July 15, 2024, 05:23:48 pm by Little Wolf »
Not convinced he will resign yet but it would be nice if someone had a cv of managing in the premier league and has experience of managing in european club competitions

phil o sophical

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #12 on July 15, 2024, 05:29:28 pm by phil o sophical »
Think it’s nailed on to be Potter

Would that be Graham or Harry because from what i've see this tournament we probably need the latter

selby

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #13 on July 15, 2024, 05:33:42 pm by selby »
  Kieran McKenna would be in my thoughts, Bielsa  a couple of years ago would be a good fit for our players, and another who if still up to it I would consider.

scawsby steve

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #14 on July 15, 2024, 05:43:53 pm by scawsby steve »
Paul Dickov's still available.

GazLaz

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #15 on July 15, 2024, 05:53:59 pm by GazLaz »
Potter would be great.

steve@dcfd

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #16 on July 15, 2024, 06:12:13 pm by steve@dcfd »
Whoever is the new manager they ll have to win the World Cup or they will be judged to have failed. Who will want it whether it’s well paid or not.

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #17 on July 15, 2024, 06:55:21 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
Think we have to put a call out to Klopp. If he’s not interested then it should be an English manager probably Potter whose face would fit as well as having been a good manager. Is Brighton teams were always brave and that’s what’s been missing from Southgate to win.


Think Howe would be a bad appointment. While he’s very attacking and obviously a good manager I’m not sure he’s tactically as flexible as Potter.

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #18 on July 15, 2024, 07:18:28 pm by firestarter »
Think it’s nailed on to be Potter

Brian Potter

DearneValleyRover

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #19 on July 15, 2024, 07:19:44 pm by DearneValleyRover »

Spilsby Red

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #20 on July 15, 2024, 07:26:26 pm by Spilsby Red »
Pochettino ( prob spelt wrong), think he plays good football. Can’t believe Chelsea got rid of him, he got them playing well last quarter of season

dickos1

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #21 on July 15, 2024, 07:52:02 pm by dickos1 »
The criticism an England manager gets is crazy, getting a failing team to consistently now reach finals and semi finals and still gets slagged off by the minority is ridiculous.

scawsby steve

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #22 on July 15, 2024, 08:17:50 pm by scawsby steve »
I have to agree with the pundits who are saying that the big players let Southgate down. They just didn't turn up apart from against Holland.

Even Southgate was puzzled by that appalling decision by Kyle Walker to throw the ball all the way back to Stones, when we briefly had Spain on the back foot just after we'd scored.

That put Spain back into the ascendancy again.

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #23 on July 15, 2024, 09:38:40 pm by Goole Rover »
I have to agree with the pundits who are saying that the big players let Southgate down. They just didn't turn up apart from against Holland.

Even Southgate was puzzled by that appalling decision by Kyle Walker to throw the ball all the way back to Stones, when we briefly had Spain on the back foot just after we'd scored.

That put Spain back into the ascendancy again.
I blame Walker for both goals. Those who’ve criticised Southgate for his motivation skills should have a go at management people are very varied.

Jonathan

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #24 on July 16, 2024, 08:39:57 am by Jonathan »
The main argument is that Southgate is not forward thinking enough to get the best from these players. Thankfully we appear to have around 20 million forward thinking managers that are able to tell him where he went wrong and what he should do. So we needn’t worry.

Jonathan

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #25 on July 16, 2024, 08:43:22 am by Jonathan »
On that note, should we add so and so from the vsc forum, what’s his name from X, and the fat bloke from talksport to the poll?

TonySoprano

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #26 on July 16, 2024, 09:18:09 am by TonySoprano »
Personally speaking  I think we need to appoint a manager/coach who can get the best out of our young attacking talent. I don’t think it will happen but I’d push the boat out for Pep. After all there’s not a ready made English replacement knocking down the door to take over.
Your clueless if you think we should get rid of southgate

Padge_DRFC

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #27 on July 16, 2024, 09:38:21 am by Padge_DRFC »
The main argument is that Southgate is not forward thinking enough to get the best from these players. Thankfully we appear to have around 20 million forward thinking managers that are able to tell him where he went wrong and what he should do. So we needn’t worry.

People having an opinion on football. Who'd have thought it.

Michael Shaw

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #28 on July 16, 2024, 09:58:07 am by Michael Shaw »
Potter for me. We need a bit of Harry's magic for England to actually win anything.

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Re: Who’s next for England job
« Reply #29 on July 16, 2024, 10:35:23 am by McCammon egg n chips »
The criticism an England manager gets is crazy, getting a failing team to consistently now reach finals and semi finals and still gets slagged off by the minority is ridiculous.

It's called scrutiny. It goes with the job. The england manager will always get scrutiny.

Southgate is rightly getting scrutinised for his tactics. I really haven't seen much "slagging off". Any criticism I've seen is qualified - i.e. it's not just "he's shit". It's criticising retreating into our own half when momentum has swung our way in a final.

Agree or disagree - fine - but it's not slagging off.

 

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