Loan Watch

[albie]

Louis makes a mistake;
Drogheda v Waterford;
https://youtu.be/BqgiHlbvWMI

Bobby not much in the video:
Bohemians v Dundalk;
https://youtu.be/8Nj_Fa7aUpk

[selby]

  I watched the Bohemians v Dundalk game and Bobby did well both his managers have said so, but he had his hands full in this game as Bohemians took the game to Dundalk all the game and dominated possession.
  The Dundalk full backs struggled all the game stopping crosses and balls from wide going into the box and made the two central defenders job hard, and under constant pressure with the Bohemians wingers running their full backs constantly.
  Bobby and his partner Animasahun look to be building a good partnership in this game Animasahun shaded the plaudits for me looking very strong and the two with Felix Goddard the keeper and my MOM the main reason Dundalk rescued a point when mainly outplayed.
  So another good performance defensively from Bobby against a team that gave him and the team in general a hard time of it, and to get a point he and the team had to work very hard to do so. A 6/ 6.5 performance  in which he had to stand his corner physically keep his shape  and cover full backs on the back foot with balls coming constantly across the box, so lots of blocks and scrambled clearances and not a lot of time to dwell on the ball as it was all a little hectic.
  First and foremost Bobby is a very good defender, and in this game he had to be with Animasahun and the keeper, and he was dominant in the air on crosses to get the draw and the point, the Dundalk mid field being poor at retaining the ball, the ball coming back at the back four after just one or two passes in mid field all the game, and playing in this side is certainly giving him the experience of being one of the main players in matches, probably just what he needs.

[Spilsby Red]

What about giving Jones a mention.  Was it a mistake by him. He caught the ball but unfortunately the defender was in his way. Was it Jones mistake? I don’t think so. Was a decent keeper in my day. If you drop a ball with no one near then it’s a keepers mistake. This wasn’t.
Jones needs to keep learning and enjoy his game. ( I will get shot down for this). I would have Jones over Lawlor. Hopefully he will get a lot of game time on loan

[scawsby steve]

What about giving Jones a mention.  Was it a mistake by him. He caught the ball but unfortunately the defender was in his way. Was it Jones mistake? I don’t think so. Was a decent keeper in my day. If you drop a ball with no one near then it’s a keepers mistake. This wasn’t.
Jones needs to keep learning and enjoy his game. ( I will get shot down for this). I would have Jones over Lawlor. Hopefully he will get a lot of game time on loan

That's what I thought. He was impeded by his own defender.

It's early days yet, but the new keeper didn't look an improvement on Louis yesterday. In fact, I think Louis would probably have saved the 2nd and 4th goals.

[adamtherover]

Any links to all the goals?

[Nudga]

What about giving Jones a mention.  Was it a mistake by him. He caught the ball but unfortunately the defender was in his way. Was it Jones mistake? I don’t think so. Was a decent keeper in my day. If you drop a ball with no one near then it’s a keepers mistake. This wasn’t.
Jones needs to keep learning and enjoy his game. ( I will get shot down for this). I would have Jones over Lawlor. Hopefully he will get a lot of game time on loan

That's what I thought. He was impeded by his own defender.

It's early days yet, but the new keeper didn't look an improvement on Louis yesterday. In fact, I think Louis would probably have saved the 2nd and 4th goals.

TLT would have the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th.

[selby]

I only saw the goal as a highlight at half time once so didn't comment but a the the time we all thought it was knocked out of his hands as he came down from the catch which he took easily by who I have no idea.

[Ldr]

Let’s be honest, Louis Jones is (currently) a terrible keeper, if he wasn’t a youth product the whole board would be against him, let’s not let sentiment cloud judgement

[Spilsby Red]

Strongly disagree. He is not a terrible keeper. But that’s your opinion and it’s mine. I think the issue is a decent goalkeeping coach.
It’s not sentiment. He needs support and refining. That comes with age and good support.
He has made mistakes but he has also made some great saves

[scawsby steve]

Let’s be honest, Louis Jones is (currently) a terrible keeper, if he wasn’t a youth product the whole board would be against him, let’s not let sentiment cloud judgement

Seeing as you're using silly platitudes and soundbites, you'll probably regard the new keeper as a world beater.

[Spilsby Red]

Why would I think TSR is a world beater?

[scawsby steve]

Why would I think TSR is a world beater?

Look at the quote, mate. I was replying to a post by LDR.

[Ldr]

Let’s be honest, Louis Jones is (currently) a terrible keeper, if he wasn’t a youth product the whole board would be against him, let’s not let sentiment cloud judgement

Seeing as you're using silly platitudes and soundbites, you'll probably regard the new keeper as a world beater.

Not seen him play so couldn’t comment, have seen Jones play and stick by my opinion that he is up there with etheridge and woods as our worst keepers post richardson

[scawsby steve]

Let’s be honest, Louis Jones is (currently) a terrible keeper, if he wasn’t a youth product the whole board would be against him, let’s not let sentiment cloud judgement

Seeing as you're using silly platitudes and soundbites, you'll probably regard the new keeper as a world beater.

Not seen him play so couldn’t comment, have seen Jones play and stick by my opinion that he is up there with etheridge and woods as our worst keepers post richardson

Dahlberg? Mitchell?

Like everyone else, I sincerely want this new kid to do well, because if he doesn't, it could seriously damage our chances of promotion.

Yes, he's done well with Chelsea under 21s, but League 2 is a different kettle of fish altogether. Let's also not forget that Etheridge had been very good with Accrington, which is why Fergie signed him. Then he came to us and the unthinkable happened.

[ravenrover]

Etheridge was good behind a very good solid defence

[Alan Southstand]

OK, not one of ours anymore, but Matty Craig going down a storm for Barnsley, in their 4-3 friendly win v Derby.

[graingrover]

 :party:If Louis Jones has a confidence problem it can only be worsened by ( certain. ) destructively critical comments from his own club’s fans .Fans need to realise that these comments filter through to individuals and are more likely to damage than repair any flaws in the player .
I hope this filters through to LDR .

[DonnyBazR0ver]

OK, not one of ours anymore, but Matty Craig going down a storm for Barnsley, in their 4-3 friendly win v Derby.

Couple of assists after coming on second half among a host of subs.They must have  faith in him as looks like they have given him the no 10 shirt

[selby]

  Apart from the miss hap when his own defender was probably more at fault than  Louis for the ball breaking loose by all reports he had a good game for the most part of the game and played well.
  Ironic that after the pelters he has taken for not coming off his line in a crowded area, the mostly same critics come down hard on him when he goes for the ball in a crowded area and gets impeded.
  From what I have seen in the four games Bobby has played in that league, he is playing in a much more physical league than any in this country with tackles and challengers less likely to be called out by the referee. Every game is a battle and keepers no way on the whole get the same protection they get over here, and the pace is relentless. The standard set piece seems to be put it under the cross bar and see what happens, if he can handle it he will come back a better keeper.

[Ldr]

:party:If Louis Jones has a confidence problem it can only be worsened by ( certain. ) destructively critical comments from his own club’s fans .Fans need to realise that these comments filter through to individuals and are more likely to damage than repair any flaws in the player .
I hope this filters through to LDR .

It’s not my job to mollycoddle him, he’s Shite, get over it

[ForsolongaRover]

:party:If Louis Jones has a confidence problem it can only be worsened by ( certain. ) destructively critical comments from his own club’s fans .Fans need to realise that these comments filter through to individuals and are more likely to damage than repair any flaws in the player .
I hope this filters through to LDR .

It’s not my job to mollycoddle him, he’s Shite, get over it

This is putting it very bluntly, but the fact is that Goalkeepers need an abundance of confidence and if criticism on here really does have such an adverse effect on him (and I’m not convinced it is such a factor) then you are bound to consider whether he possesses the courage and self belief to be playing in goal in the first place. Strikers get it for missing “simple” chances, defenders like Olowu and Ro-Shaun Williams get it for their mistakes and there is little sympathy or concern for their mental welfare. Goalkeepers have to be tough and we shall expect as much of TSL.

And perhaps we have forgotten, but LJ is no longer a boy, he’s 25 years old! By that age, most of us have recognised that we have to stand on our own two feet!

[Chris Black come back]

Bobby dropped to bench for game tonight against Galway.

[Chris Black come back]

Louis Jones conceded twice in a 2-1 defeat for Waterford, but put in a decent performance by accounts.

Bobby didn't make it off the bench tonight, in a 2-0 defeat for Dundalk.

[Draytonian III]

On Flashscores Louis Jones got a 7.2 mark, which is just behind Waterford’s player of the match

[steve@dcfd]

Listen to Dundalk manager before he was happy to have experienced defender back do Bobby on the bench still lost let’s see how many games Bobby plays now. The manager doesn’t fill me with confidence he knows what he’s doing

[nightporter]

Both goals conceded were from headers in the area/box. 

[scawsby steve]

Both goals conceded were from headers in the area/box.

Sounds like the Rovers then, no matter who's in goal.

Even with TLT in goal, who was excellent, both goals from Barrow, and the first one from Crewe, were from simple headers from simple crosses.

It's a problem we must eradicate this season, to have any chance of promotion.

[Chris Black come back]

Jack Goodman scores on his debut.

[Chris Black come back]

Jack Goodman scores on his debut.

Ended up scoring twice, in a 4-2 win.

[Ye-Aul-Tavern]

I didn't travel to Waterford yesterday but I streamed the game. Jones in goal for them. He had a good game. Saved two one on ones and a good tip around the post too.

There's some confusion in the posts above. Our (Shamrock Rovers) two goals were shots from inside the box, not headers. Jones had no chance for either. I think the two headed goals one poster is referring to above were in the Dundalk v Galway game. A good win for Rovers last night having been away to Slavia Prague on Tuesday and with a trip to Slovenia in the Europa league coming up on Thursday.