Vale Skylights

[albie]

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/13206799/port-vale-2-3-doncaster-leagu-two-highlights

Jay got lucky with the header back, but a great clearance off the line.

[Thorney]

I once had my shirt pulled.
I fell backwards not flat forwards on my chest with my arms spread out

[mushRTID]

What a ball from Gibson.
Great penalty from their lad too.

[Alan Southstand]

He stopped in his run up?

[ravenrover]

I thought he had and my wife said is it allowed to stop in your run up?

[albie]

Those abroad might be better with an mp4 link;
https://videos.skysports.com/media/v1/pmp4/static/clear/6057984924001/2a497ec3-5c27-4224-85e1-454d65730e05/f941590e-672d-4ccf-8a59-2e1b868bf42f/main.mp4

[RoversInSpain]

Those abroad might be better with an mp4 link;
https://videos.skysports.com/media/v1/pmp4/static/clear/6057984924001/2a497ec3-5c27-4224-85e1-454d65730e05/f941590e-672d-4ccf-8a59-2e1b868bf42f/main.mp4

Thank you albie for taking time out to do the link…

[drfchound]

I thought he had and my wife said is it allowed to stop in your run up?

It’s not allowed for a player to stop on the run up to take a penalty.
It is a yellow card offence and if a goal is subsequently scored it should be disallowed.

[ravenrover]

Thanks Houd confirmed what ai told her
Now watch the the replay of their penalty did he stop?
It's time this stuttering approach was stopped

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I thought he had and my wife said is it allowed to stop in your run up?

It’s not allowed for a player to stop on the run up to take a penalty.
It is a yellow card offence and if a goal is subsequently scored it should be disallowed.

Wrong, a player can stop/feint in the run up but not at the ball I believe. It was a good penalty.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I thought he had and my wife said is it allowed to stop in your run up?

It’s not allowed for a player to stop on the run up to take a penalty.
It is a yellow card offence and if a goal is subsequently scored it should be disallowed.

I think it's all changed. Player can do what they want before taking the kick. As can the keeper as long as at the point the kick is taken, he has at least one foot planted on or behind the goal line. .

[rich1471]

Was there today that ball from Gibson was very good looking at it on the highlights , shapes ball to Luke was superb for the opener

[drfchound]

I thought he had and my wife said is it allowed to stop in your run up?

It’s not allowed for a player to stop on the run up to take a penalty.
It is a yellow card offence and if a goal is subsequently scored it should be disallowed.

I think it's all changed. Player can do what they want before taking the kick. As can the keeper as long as at the point the kick is taken, he has at least one foot planted on or behind the goal line. .

I just found this on Google, dated July 2024.

“Because your run-up is considered to be complete when you stop, and once you stop, you have to kick the ball. If you stop, pause, then strike the ball, the goal (assuming you score) is disallowed, and you get a yellow card.9 Jul 2024”

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I thought he had and my wife said is it allowed to stop in your run up?

It’s not allowed for a player to stop on the run up to take a penalty.
It is a yellow card offence and if a goal is subsequently scored it should be disallowed.

I think it's all changed. Player can do what they want before taking the kick. As can the keeper as long as at the point the kick is taken, he has at least one foot planted on or behind the goal line. .

I just found this on Google, dated July 2024.

“Because your run-up is considered to be complete when you stop, and once you stop, you have to kick the ball. If you stop, pause, then strike the ball, the goal (assuming you score) is disallowed, and you get a yellow card.9 Jul 2024”

Well these are the FA rules.

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick

If there's a directive that says a player can't stutter their run, fair enough, I stand corrected, but there's plenty of examples recently where we've seen it happen and, the ref didn't see anything wrong with it today.

I've always thought if the keeper dives early then it's his fault.

[drfcsteve]

If we’re disallowing penalties like that today we’d be disallowing 90% of penalties scored in modern football.

[jmt23]

Gibson looked to have a decent game to be fair, he is slotting in well and creating opportunities for others.

[GazLaz]

Gibson looked to have a decent game to be fair, he is slotting in well and creating opportunities for others.

He’s got loads of ability. Hope he remains consistent all season.

[NickDRFC]

Moly’s goals were both terrific. Great balls through from Sharp and particularly Gibson (lovely bit of skill beforehand from him to beat the man that sadly didn’t make the cut), and Moly puts them both away beautifully. He’s full of confidence, long may it continue.

[ForsolongaRover]

I thought he had and my wife said is it allowed to stop in your run up?

It’s not allowed for a player to stop on the run up to take a penalty.
It is a yellow card offence and if a goal is subsequently scored it should be disallowed.

I think it's all changed. Player can do what they want before taking the kick. As can the keeper as long as at the point the kick is taken, he has at least one foot planted on or behind the goal line. .

I just found this on Google, dated July 2024.

“Because your run-up is considered to be complete when you stop, and once you stop, you have to kick the ball. If you stop, pause, then strike the ball, the goal (assuming you score) is disallowed, and you get a yellow card.9 Jul 2024”

Well these are the FA rules.

https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-14---the-penalty-kick

If there's a directive that says a player can't stutter their run, fair enough, I stand corrected, but there's plenty of examples recently where we've seen it happen and, the ref didn't see anything wrong with it today.

I've always thought if the keeper dives early then it's his fault.

The precise words are
 “the player taking the penalty kick or a team-mate offends:
 ….
feinting to kick the ball once the kicker has completed the run-up (feinting in the run-up is permitted); the referee cautions the kicker” (and an indirect free kick is awarded)

[Donnywolf]

I thought he had and my wife said is it allowed to stop in your run up?

It’s not allowed for a player to stop on the run up to take a penalty.
It is a yellow card offence and if a goal is subsequently scored it should be disallowed.

I think it's all changed. Player can do what they want before taking the kick. As can the keeper as long as at the point the kick is taken, he has at least one foot planted on or behind the goal line. .

I just found this on Google, dated July 2024.

“Because your run-up is considered to be complete when you stop, and once you stop, you have to kick the ball. If you stop, pause, then strike the ball, the goal (assuming you score) is disallowed, and you get a yellow card.9 Jul 2024”

That is exactly what should happen. No stops , no stutter , no tricks

If you see Rate the Ref I must have posted straight after the game that I don't think it was a Penalty  and it should not have been allowed as their player simply stopped in his run up

[ForsolongaRover]

I thought he had and my wife said is it allowed to stop in your run up?

It’s not allowed for a player to stop on the run up to take a penalty.
It is a yellow card offence and if a goal is subsequently scored it should be disallowed.

I think it's all changed. Player can do what they want before taking the kick. As can the keeper as long as at the point the kick is taken, he has at least one foot planted on or behind the goal line. .

I just found this on Google, dated July 2024.

“Because your run-up is considered to be complete when you stop, and once you stop, you have to kick the ball. If you stop, pause, then strike the ball, the goal (assuming you score) is disallowed, and you get a yellow card.9 Jul 2024”

That is exactly what should happen. No stops , no stutter , no tricks

If you see Rate the Ref I must have posted straight after the game that I don't think it was a Penalty  and it should not have been allowed as their player simply stopped in his run up

Sounds like your interpretation. I’ve quoted the actual rule above which refers to “feinting” which is what the penalty-taker did on his run up. You seem to feel you can substitute your paraphrase and use that to argue that the ref was wrong.

[ravenrover]

Feinting is that different to stopping?

[ForsolongaRover]

Yes - look it up.

[Dougiebulletheader]

Watched the whole match and never saw the fellow pass out

[ravenrover]

Yes - look it up.

So the pen should not have been given

[EasyforDennis]

Whichever way you dress it up I think the one thing we can all agree on is that the ref was shite.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I thought he had and my wife said is it allowed to stop in your run up?

It’s not allowed for a player to stop on the run up to take a penalty.
It is a yellow card offence and if a goal is subsequently scored it should be disallowed.

I think it's all changed. Player can do what they want before taking the kick. As can the keeper as long as at the point the kick is taken, he has at least one foot planted on or behind the goal line. .

I just found this on Google, dated July 2024.

“Because your run-up is considered to be complete when you stop, and once you stop, you have to kick the ball. If you stop, pause, then strike the ball, the goal (assuming you score) is disallowed, and you get a yellow card.9 Jul 2024”

That is exactly what should happen. No stops , no stutter , no tricks

If you see Rate the Ref I must have posted straight after the game that I don't think it was a Penalty  and it should not have been allowed as their player simply stopped in his run up

Sounds like your interpretation. I’ve quoted the actual rule above which refers to “feinting” which is what the penalty-taker did on his run up. You seem to feel you can substitute your paraphrase and use that to argue that the ref was wrong.

You're right and unfortunately Donnywolf is mis interpreting the way the protocol is written. It isn't 'ungentlemanly conduct' if a taker pauses, stutters, stops, during his 'approach' to the ball. As it says, he can't feint kicking the ball once he's there but up to that point he could do a pirouette if he wanted to.

Similarly, the keepers can bounce up and down, move side to side as much as they want as long as they don't come forward of the line.  That isn't ungentlemanly conduct either.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Was otherwise engaged yesterday, so am only just catching up.

Few thoughts.

1)What a ball from Gibson for the third!
2) Sharp's instinct in the box for the second, just nudging the defender forward then stepping back for half a yard of space.

3) Bailey was at fault for their first. Ball watching when he should have been picking up the runner. Something to work on.

4) How stupid was I not to have twenty quid on Molyneux to be top scorer this season?

[pib]

Can see why their pen was given, albeit soft. Thought we should’ve had one too though, hasn’t made it into the highlights.

[ForsolongaRover]

Yes - look it up.

So the pen should not have been given

Yes - look it up.

So the pen should not have been given

The subject was “feinting”, which was the issue over the run up to the penalty kick and whether what the man did was “illegal”.