Referee James Bell… discuss

[Filo]

Has anyone got a screenshot of Molys offside?

Molyneux was miles out of shot when the ball was played. Given the length of time it was in the air, I'd not be surprised if he was onside. It was right in front of us and my reaction was he was onside. But someone a couple of rows back said he was clearly off.

It was right in front of me, onside by a mile

[Sulphurite]

I'm neutral and that was the worst refereeing performance I've ever seen. Nevermind the phantom offside by the lino. A disgrace.

[jmt23]

Is there any action that can be taken after such an inept display of both referee and Lino’s - who monitors this, I am certain even Chesterfield fans would agree that that was not a fair , right or  just performance from the ref.

I am still not sure what I have witnessed, i don’t swear really but I did at this game, I just don’t understand what were his reasons to give all the fouls he did and that impacted the game so so much. I’m really confused

[Sulphurite]

The east stand lino caused the corner for the second goal. False flag idiot.

[drfchound]

Is there any action that can be taken after such an inept display of both referee and Lino’s - who monitors this, I am certain even Chesterfield fans would agree that that was not a fair , right or  just performance from the ref.

I am still not sure what I have witnessed, i don’t swear really but I did at this game, I just don’t understand what were his reasons to give all the fouls he did and that impacted the game so so much. I’m really confused

The referee assessor will give him a good report and we will all move on.
Bell will get another game next week.

[GazLaz]

Has anyone got a screenshot of Molys offside?

Molyneux was miles out of shot when the ball was played. Given the length of time it was in the air, I'd not be surprised if he was onside. It was right in front of us and my reaction was he was onside. But someone a couple of rows back said he was clearly off.

The fact Moly stopped, looked at the lino, then kicked it, was unbelievable.

Anderson lunged his head at Dunkley so can’t argue there.

The contentious one was the penalty. It his his and and it helped him control the ball but it was ball to hand wasn’t it??

[RoversInSpain]

First red: Correct by the law.
Penalty: Very very harsh, its hit his arm in a natural position with no movement towards the ball.
Second red: Hard to know what's actually been said or gone on.

Second red, Anderson has been f**king stupid. He's gone forehead to forehead with their lad like a pair of rutting stags, they made a jerk motion with his head. Nothing violent but it gave a stupid opportunity for their lad to play the dying swan. It's a red card in today's football.

I'm f**king livid with him and Molyneux. They've acted like a pair of Sunday League d**kheads.

We played into the referees hands two matches on the bounce.
Problem is Grant has built this lot up to win the league, even told them with almost 2 points per game they only achieving at 30% of what they are apparently capable of.
All very well and good…
But actually we now have a bunch of players that think walking onto the pitch will be enough.
And when it goes a bit wrong, rather than putting aggression into moving the ball quick and having a real go at the opponents, by breathing fire and putting them well and truly on the back foot, they winge, moan and generally show a complete lack of intelligence and hand a totally incompetent referee with all the ammunition required.
Get a grip for Tuesday and start playing football quickly…Now!

[Donnywolf]

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292017.0#msg1338556

My comment re the Everton game mentioned above

[roversdude]

It’s so wrong there needs to be clarity and consequences at the moment we have neither, it’s like the Lego movie everything’s good everything is fine

[Pancho Regan]

57 years I’ve been watching Rovers.

Performances like that by the referee today, which ruined the game, could actually put me off going to football.

There was a moment, after he gave that penalty, when I fleetingly considered planning my route from my seat down to the perimeter fence and onto the pitch to get to the ref and remove the red card from his pocket and shove it up his f**king arse.

[drfchound]

57 years I’ve been watching Rovers.

Performances like that by the referee today, which ruined the game, could actually put me off going to football.

There was a moment, after he gave that penalty, when I fleetingly considered planning my route from my seat down to the perimeter fence and onto the pitch to get to the ref and remove the red card from his pocket and shove it up his f**king arse.

I was really expecting someone to try something like that today.

[Alan Southstand]

Said the same to the guy behind me in the South Stand - it use makes you want to leave football all together. We all pay good money to go watch our team, but any enjoyment we could have had was totally ruined by all the officials. Incompetence on an unprecedented scale.

It was, as I’ve read someone else write, as if the ref and linesmen had been bribed to give everything to Chesterfield. Some unbelievably bad decisions. This is the guy that left our injured right back floundering on the pitch, having been fouled at Everton, which led to them scoring, but that, as it turns out, was so insignificant when compared to the officiating on display today!

The 3 of them need removing from their posts. But they’ll be on another pitch next week, ruining someone else’s day.

[Pancho Regan]

Agreed Alan.

Rovers were not good today but I find myself unable to analyse and reflect on our performance because these disgraceful officials (or should I say 2 out of the 3) totally ruined that match due to their utter ineptitude.
Particularly the ref, but well done the East Stand liner for a wonderful supporting role.

For me, this took bad officiating to a new level and it ruined the game.
There’s an old saying that the best refs are those you barely notice during the game.

This f**king t**t today was the absolute opposite of that.

[bobbymax]

Agreed Alan.

Rovers were not good today but I find myself unable to analyse and reflect on our performance because these disgraceful officials (or should I say 2 out of the 3) totally ruined that match due to their utter ineptitude.
Particularly the ref, but well done the East Stand liner for a wonderful supporting role.

For me, this took bad officiating to a new level and it ruined the game.
There’s an old saying that the best refs are those you barely notice during the game.

This f**king t**t today was the absolute opposite of that.

Oh I wouldn't leave out the west stand lino. At least two flags second half that weren't even close to being offside.

[LincsRover]

His betting account needs a good check - he most certainly had a good bet on chesterfield today. Seriously, it needs to be checked because that display was worse than incompetent - too bad to be honest!

[Usher wide.]

The thought too crossed my mind that if I’d been able to do a ‘Tony Coleman’ on him it would a) put him out of action for a while b) whilst having to accept the lifetime ban from attending all future live games, a criminal record for assault, I would accept in the hope I might yet go down in ‘Rovers folklore’ if I was to bow to the home crowd after dropping the ref then walking sedately towards the tunnel with my hands held out in front of me in the ‘you may now apply the cuffs’ position.

[LincsRover]

Is there any action that can be taken after such an inept display of both referee and Lino’s - who monitors this, I am certain even Chesterfield fans would agree that that was not a fair , right or  just performance from the ref.

I am still not sure what I have witnessed, i don’t swear really but I did at this game, I just don’t understand what were his reasons to give all the fouls he did and that impacted the game so so much. I’m really confused

You’d think so wouldn’t you but I listened to their assistant manager interviews on RS, who said the ref had a great game and got every decision right. Lying c*nt!!!!!!

[CheeseToastie]

I've put a complaint into the FA I wouldn't normally but watching back on the highlights the fact that for their penalty they had one player about 5 yards inside the box before he took and the referee was closest to him and did nothing pushed me over the edge if you can't make the basic decisions right what do we expect?!

Although penalty all day tried to move his arm unfortunately made it worse.
Red card for Luke no complaints and neither can Tom both need to wise but sure they'll come back stronger with a point to prove.

Little blip

[PDX_Rover]

The thing that really gets me is that there’s no recourse that really matters is there? Officials are untouchable. Protected.

If the ref today is assessed and demoted… damage already done.

Say he was investigated and found to be betting or whatever. What then? The damage is again already done to us already (not that we’d have got anything from the game anyway the way we played today).

Are officials still part time at our level or are they full time professionals?

[BillyStubbsTears]

The West Stand linesman was frequently 10 yards behind the back line and scrambling to make a guess at offsides.

[colincramb]

I think a few folks have taken it a bit too far (with the whole ‘I wonder if he’s had a bet’ nonsense). He was very poor. But…

1. Molyneux only has himself to blame.
2. The handball is avoidable if you are concentrating and anticipating play
3. They passed it around our midfield at will in the first half. That’s not the referee’s fault.

[Michael Shaw]

Let's blame the ref, the linesman, the pitch but let's not blame the squad for just not being good enough even though McCann put this squad together before any other club in league two. Do the players really want promotion, I don't think so? The simple fact is that now we have dropped into league two we can't get out of it.

[Dougiebulletheader]

Nobody was not blaming our team-set up-tactics today we were poor but what made me more angry to the point like a post above. I am 66 been going to Rovers since the 80s and I said to my lad Im  gonna take a live time ban a t**t this ref. He was that bent. Worst I have seen Lino on east stand caused chaos. Mols got booked at end of first half for telling Ref he was a Kitson for not giving us a pen when he was clearly tripped in the box but when he booked him he had his back to him did he even know...but daft kicking ball away. So yes we were shite and have been for the last few games have we even been that good yet...but the officials should never come back to Doncaster.

[Michael Shaw]

Does any rational person seriously think a referee comes to Doncaster with the intention of making us lose the game?
If that was really true the ref would not be in the job for long. They are under scrutiny themselves even if we don't like every decision against us.

[Filo]

I think a few folks have taken it a bit too far (with the whole ‘I wonder if he’s had a bet’ nonsense). He was very poor. But…

1. Molyneux only has himself to blame.
2. The handball is avoidable if you are concentrating and anticipating play
3. They passed it around our midfield at will in the first half. That’s not the referee’s fault.

If the Lino did his job correctly, Molly doesn’t get a second yellow, because he was miles onside, and did Molly even know he was on a yellow card?

[DonnyOsmond]

I think a few folks have taken it a bit too far (with the whole ‘I wonder if he’s had a bet’ nonsense). He was very poor. But…

1. Molyneux only has himself to blame.
2. The handball is avoidable if you are concentrating and anticipating play
3. They passed it around our midfield at will in the first half. That’s not the referee’s fault.

Just from the first half alone he was giving them all 50-50s, all light challenges from us were given to them, the opposite weren't given to us. Hence why he was booed off at half time and Molyneux felt the need to approach him anyway. There was definitely an agenda.

[Donnywolf]

https://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?topic=292017.0#msg1338556

I posted this on the Everton game in error , because he reffed there and as I stated then " gave the big Team everything "

Worst scoring ever on Rate the Ref is 39 x Nil and at the moment the Card Happy Clown is only on 23

I think we were not at it 100%, I think some individuals let themselves and their Team mates and we the Fans down BUT that does not take anything away from the performance of the Officials in any way

The Ref appeared to be clearly biased one way or,  not quite as bad , totally inconsistent  and / or incompetent if he WASNT biased

[Usher wide.]

Does any rational person seriously think a referee comes to Doncaster with the intention of making us lose the game?
If that was really true the ref would not be in the job for long. They are under scrutiny themselves even if we don't like every decision against us.

Does any rational person believe the players “don’t want promotion”?

Because promotion of course brings them an increase in wage & no one wants that.

Does any rational person believe that the squad Grant has put together isn’t one of the strongest we’ve had for the past 5 years?

Does any rational person believe that we “can’t get out of it (league two)?

No.

You’re irrational & your comments irrelevant.

[Fal]

Let's blame the ref, the linesman, the pitch but let's not blame the squad for just not being good enough even though McCann put this squad together before any other club in league two. Do the players really want promotion, I don't think so? The simple fact is that now we have dropped into league two we can't get out of it.

Absolute clown, yes we were bad yesterday but get a grip.

As McCann said it’s not how you start, it’s how you finish.

[ravenrover]

Right in front of me, looked well onside
That lino set his stall out early 1st half 5yards behind play sprinting to catch up.missed the Chessie player yards offside near the East stand. Didn't get many decisions right after that