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coventryrover

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Ignore the ref
« on September 28, 2024, 05:15:42 pm by coventryrover »
Yes he was poor but can anyone think we deserved anything from that.





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The Dav

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #1 on September 28, 2024, 05:17:06 pm by The Dav »
He was dam right awful, however your right we were more awful ! Grant has got a big job in front of him based on today’s showing !

Jersey Rover

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #2 on September 28, 2024, 05:18:57 pm by Jersey Rover »
We’re losing these games in midfield. Needs a rethink

coventryrover

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #3 on September 28, 2024, 05:20:54 pm by coventryrover »
And how sloppy were we.   Poor pass, poor positioning etc etc .  Central midfield were toothless

But how sloppy were we.

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #4 on September 28, 2024, 05:23:02 pm by GazLaz »
The midfield shape needs tweaking. Bailey hasn’t got going this season at all.

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #5 on September 28, 2024, 05:24:07 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Yes he was poor but can anyone think we deserved anything from that.




The game may have ended up differently with a normal referee. There was at least 3 massive game defining moments and lots of smaller ones which stopped any momentum from us.

GazLaz

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #6 on September 28, 2024, 05:28:41 pm by GazLaz »
Yes he was poor but can anyone think we deserved anything from that.




The game may have ended up differently with a normal referee. There was at least 3 massive game defining moments and lots of smaller ones which stopped any momentum from us.

Which big decision did he get 100% wrong? The first red was nailed on, he handled it for the penalty and the second red could well have been right.

Got some of the small decisions wrong admittedly.   

PDX_Rover

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #7 on September 28, 2024, 05:32:23 pm by PDX_Rover »
Yes he was poor but can anyone think we deserved anything from that.




The game may have ended up differently with a normal referee. There was at least 3 massive game defining moments and lots of smaller ones which stopped any momentum from us.

Which big decision did he get 100% wrong? The first red was nailed on, he handled it for the penalty and the second red could well have been right.

Got some of the small decisions wrong admittedly.   


Come on. We deserved nothing from the game that officiating was unacceptable.

big fat yorkshire pudding

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« Reply #8 on September 28, 2024, 05:34:31 pm by big fat yorkshire pudding »
We started well then struggled through midfield. Sorry but for me we are miles off it when Close plays, he's just not mobile enough.

Until the red we came out strong second half and we really should have scored if we're honest.

The midfield is the problem for me.

DonnyOsmond

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #9 on September 28, 2024, 05:37:21 pm by DonnyOsmond »
Yes he was poor but can anyone think we deserved anything from that.




The game may have ended up differently with a normal referee. There was at least 3 massive game defining moments and lots of smaller ones which stopped any momentum from us.

Which big decision did he get 100% wrong? The first red was nailed on, he handled it for the penalty and the second red could well have been right.

Got some of the small decisions wrong admittedly.   

Lead up to both decisions... First yellow for Molyneux is because of the refs ego, a less horrific first half from the ref and Molyneux isn't even approaching the ref to begin with. Second one he has to give because he gave the same to Madden.

Prior to Anderson's red their player was all over him for the corner, pulling his shirt all over the place, if the referee acts there and does his job then that doesn't lead to whatever happened for the red.

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #10 on September 28, 2024, 05:39:25 pm by StocksArmy »
Trying to stay calm while writing this. You have to look at your own performance first and I can’t help but feel McCann’s tactics have been found out. Cut off the supply to the wide areas and you stop Doncaster Rovers. Ben Close in midfield is a problem. We want to press and he is the weak link in doing that. Since he came into the side we haven’t won many second balls. Fleming another problem. Jack Senior is twice the player he is. How many times did they get in behind us in that first half? Sterry’s side also. Ironside a shadow of what he was last season. Molyneux needs a decent fine for his sending off. The I’ll discipline comes from the manager losing his sh!t on the sidelines every game and stupidly making comments on officials not preparing for games very well. It’s never his fault is it? So based on our own performance I am comfortable knowing we deserved to lose the game.

But then the referee….. what’s the point in even commenting. We all saw what happened. In 30 years watching the Rovers I’ve seen some bad ones but that is the worst.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2024, 05:47:41 pm by StocksArmy »

Filo

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #11 on September 28, 2024, 05:43:58 pm by Filo »
Well that first goal, firstly it wasn’t even a free kick, secondly TSL stranded in no mans land, took a couple of steps to come for the ball and stopped, if he commits then he punches the ball away

jmt23

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« Reply #12 on September 28, 2024, 05:46:16 pm by jmt23 »
The penalty came from extremely poor officiating!!!
The Lino put his flag up for offside, then down but our players momentarily stopped and the ball went out of play. The resulting play ended up being a penalty - now you can say we should’ve handled that second part better, but they don’t score without the first part. Lino did the same thing later in the half?
He was a very poor ref, but can’t complain about the reds, headless from Molly, and I never saw the Anderson red, but others said he did lash out.
The ref set the scene in the first half, great tackles were fouls or yellows every time.

Did we deserve to win - Chesterfield were on top before the ref decided he wanted to be centre of attention. We did still create chances even when we were men down though, so very hard to judge.
All you want is a fair game with a fighting chance, the ref stole that, to the point he looked paid off, a very very odd performance.

Copps is Magic

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« Reply #13 on September 28, 2024, 05:46:23 pm by Copps is Magic »
They had two men on Molyneux at all times, other teams have also done it to us. Easy tactic that unfortunately works.

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« Reply #14 on September 28, 2024, 05:48:10 pm by glosterred »
The second goal, prior to it the Lino put up the took down his flag for offside, no advantage came of it so it should have gone back to a free kick to us, instead of the corner and the pen that came from it.

But we were not good today, but the ref was worse


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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #15 on September 28, 2024, 05:48:49 pm by Chris Black come back »
They had two men on Molyneux at all times, other teams have also done it to us. Easy tactic that unfortunately works.

It does work but we should be able to exploit the space that creates. We don't, that's the issue.

Filo

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #16 on September 28, 2024, 05:49:06 pm by Filo »
They had two men on Molyneux at all times, other teams have also done it to us. Easy tactic that unfortunately works.
That should lead us to having a spare man, but at times it looked like they had more players on the pitch than us, Close is not the holding midfielder that Grant thinks he is

goalkick

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #17 on September 28, 2024, 06:03:30 pm by goalkick »
Very disappointing day were nothing was happening mid field and close may have well not been there.we don’t seem to know what our best lineup is.things will get better.

andyst79

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« Reply #18 on September 28, 2024, 06:08:51 pm by andyst79 »
Well that first goal, firstly it wasn’t even a free kick, secondly TSL stranded in no mans land, took a couple of steps to come for the ball and stopped, if he commits then he punches the ball away

Not a free kick but the dead balls absolutely whipped in , almost impossible to defend. A great set piece, sometimes you just have to hold your hands up

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« Reply #19 on September 28, 2024, 06:14:45 pm by In the box »
Yes he was poor but can anyone think we deserved anything from that.
Ignore the REF!! Wtf ? He controlled the game by giving dozens unnecessary free kicks and petulant bookings when a strong word would probably have done the trick . So f*** this ref he was an insult to every fair minded fan of the game came to see a competitive have between to local teams !!

Goole Rover

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #20 on September 28, 2024, 06:15:16 pm by Goole Rover »
Yes he was poor but can anyone think we deserved anything from that.




The game may have ended up differently with a normal referee. There was at least 3 massive game defining moments and lots of smaller ones which stopped any momentum from us.

Which big decision did he get 100% wrong? The first red was nailed on, he handled it for the penalty and the second red could well have been right.

Got some of the small decisions wrong admittedly.
He got the free kick wrong resulting in their first goal.

Reg of the Rovers

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« Reply #21 on September 28, 2024, 07:11:10 pm by Reg of the Rovers »
After their third the guy who scored it - Berry - was hovering around our bench and giving McCann some grief as if there was some history there - anyone else see that or know what that was about?

roversdude

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« Reply #22 on September 28, 2024, 07:16:47 pm by roversdude »
Hull under 21s ?

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #23 on September 28, 2024, 07:22:16 pm by BillyStubbsTears »
Yes he was poor but can anyone think we deserved anything from that.




The game may have ended up differently with a normal referee. There was at least 3 massive game defining moments and lots of smaller ones which stopped any momentum from us.

Which big decision did he get 100% wrong? The first red was nailed on, he handled it for the penalty and the second red could well have been right.

Got some of the small decisions wrong admittedly.   

That penalty decision was a shocker. Yeboah had seen the ball very late as it's cleared the jumping players ahead of him. It's bounced awkwardly and hit his arm in a perfectly natural position. He may just have moved his arm 2-3 inches instinctively as the ball dropped and bounced, but the ball would have still hit him if he hadn't. There was no advantage lost to Chesterfield as many Yeboah was marking wasn't in any position to win the ball.

It's ridiculous to give a penalty for that.

Campsall rover

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Re: Ignore the ref
« Reply #24 on September 28, 2024, 07:22:31 pm by Campsall rover »
Bailey and Kelly as the 2 in front of back 4
If Close is going to start he has to play further forward because he can’t defend.
Last week he was good, this week awful.
We mis Mathew Craig the most imo He simply has not been replaced

Sbarra is a talented player but lacks physicality for this league.
Thought Chesterfield were just better than us all over the pitch.

We need to get the middle of the park sorted. That’s where our weakness are most evident..

ncRover

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« Reply #25 on September 28, 2024, 07:23:48 pm by ncRover »
Well that first goal, firstly it wasn’t even a free kick, secondly TSL stranded in no mans land, took a couple of steps to come for the ball and stopped, if he commits then he punches the ball away

He wasn’t in no-man’s land. It was a superb delivery in and he wasn’t going to get to it.

I think it was Bailey who lost his marker, but criticising him isn’t the done thing
« Last Edit: September 28, 2024, 07:33:08 pm by ncRover »

donnievic

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« Reply #26 on September 28, 2024, 07:25:11 pm by donnievic »
Yes he was poor but can anyone think we deserved anything from that.




The game may have ended up differently with a normal referee. There was at least 3 massive game defining moments and lots of smaller ones which stopped any momentum from us.
no there was a lot of smaller incidents he got wrong but the main one apart from
 Penalty as couldn’t see from where I was so will leave that one to ponder

Reg of the Rovers

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« Reply #27 on September 28, 2024, 07:26:52 pm by Reg of the Rovers »
Hull under 21s ?
Thank you, the ever-reliable wikipedia tells me he was at Hull 19/20 and 20/21 so obviously something gone off there! He was definitely trying to wind Grant up and Grant wasn't very happy about it!

TheFunk

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« Reply #28 on September 28, 2024, 07:33:30 pm by TheFunk »
Paul Cook said to Grant don't worry I will sort him out later.

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« Reply #29 on September 28, 2024, 07:58:18 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Bailey and Kelly as the 2 in front of back 4
If Close is going to start he has to play further forward because he can’t defend.
Last week he was good, this week awful.
We mis Mathew Craig the most imo He simply has not been replaced

Sbarra is a talented player but lacks physicality for this league.
Thought Chesterfield were just better than us all over the pitch.

We need to get the middle of the park sorted. That’s where our weakness are most evident..


Sbarra you'd have in your 5 a side team, but not in men's football

 

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