England

[Pancho Regan]

He'll have an English assistant in Anthony Barry.

I think this is a good appointment. I've stopped bothering about whether we have an Englishman as England manager to be honest.
There isn't exactly a rich pool of talent to pick from.

[TonySoprano]

If England were to win a tournament under Tuchel, the Germans would claim responsibility.

It would definitely take the edge off us winning something.

I don’t shree with that.
If, say, Eddie Howe won the World Cup for Germany, I’d be:
A. As jealous as f**k
B. Thinking why, oh why could we not get him?

Yeah, so it would be down to eddie however, our fellow englishman

That’s not the point I was making.

It clearly was 

[drfcsteve]

Just plain wrong appointing a German.

Big ask of him if he's going to go one step better than southgate, and even if he does, I'll still have that niggle of him being a German

There’s a word for not liking people based on their race.

There's a name for people like you too.

Oh, and German is a nationality not a race

I’d love to hear it. I’m guessing it’s “woke” which seems to be your catch all term for anyone calling out your xenophobia.

[TonySoprano]

Just plain wrong appointing a German.

Big ask of him if he's going to go one step better than southgate, and even if he does, I'll still have that niggle of him being a German

There’s a word for not liking people based on their race.

There's a name for people like you too.

Oh, and German is a nationality not a race

I’d love to hear it. I’m guessing it’s “woke” which seems to be your catch all term for anyone calling out your xenophobia.

Oh, I was definitely thinking of something stronger than "woke" 

[chrisd_123]

People want an Englishman as England manager but then hound out the guy who got us to two finals, a semi final and a quarter final because he didn't chuck 7 attackers on the pitch.

Then don't want the Englishman who then tried chucking 7 attacking players on and lost as he's not experienced enough/a big enough name - ignoring the fact he's won things internationally with a lot of this group of players

I don't care who's in charge or how we win as long as we finally go that next step and win it.

There's an argument about the nationality having the same rules as playing but that's all it is, at the minute Tuchel is eligible, available and clearly wants to succeed as England manager.

For me I'm surprised all managers of a high calibre aren't chucking themselves at the England job if only for ego....Imagine being the one who finally wins something with England. You'd have completed football. If we win the next World Cup I don't care who the manager is. If they're proudly representing our country I don't care where they're from.

[keith79]

Anything less than 2 euros finals will be a step backwards. 

[steve@dcfd]

Contracts for 18 month to the World cup finals should we qualify. Let’s hope he can get the England players playing like they do in the Premier League and Euro leagues. When did the last English manager win the Premier League  Champions League or a Cup or League in Europe. There’s been more Scottish managers win Premier league Champions League.

[belton rover]

If England were to win a tournament under Tuchel, the Germans would claim responsibility.

It would definitely take the edge off us winning something.

I don’t shree with that.
If, say, Eddie Howe won the World Cup for Germany, I’d be:
A. As jealous as f**k
B. Thinking why, oh why could we not get him?

Yeah, so it would be down to eddie however, our fellow englishman

That’s not the point I was making.

It clearly was 

No, that’s a point you made. It’s not very often you can take credit for something on here, so enjoy it.

[Metalmicky]

Not arsed about this appointment as long as we aren't watching the tedious dross we have been subjected to over the last few years under Southgate/Carsley... 

[Bentley Bullet]

International teams are only able to select players who are eligible to play for them by nationality.

To employ a foreign coach to take charge of our national team is to admit our own coaches are inferior and it is an insult to them and our own country regarding the state of our football.

[talksbollox]

Our own coaches are inferior. Fact. The last English coach to win the premier league? Howard Wilkinson 1991/92.

[ncRover]

International teams are only able to select players who are eligible to play for them by nationality.

To employ a foreign coach to take charge of our national team is to admit our own coaches are inferior and it is an insult to them and our own country regarding the state of our football.

At what level of the footballing operation is it not an “insult” to have someone non-English employed?

Perhaps English coaches should take personal responsibility for not being good enough. It’s the FA’s job to give them opportunities, which they do. But you can’t spoon-feed individual greatness.

[Reg of the Rovers]

I don't think we develop creative or intuitive coaches - my problem with Southgate and Schofield was not that their philosophy was wrong, it was that they couldn't play any other way - it's this by the manual playbook that means coaches can't deal with in-game situations. It's like thinking your a joiner after assembling Ikea furniture from the instructions.

[ncRover]

I don't think we develop creative or intuitive coaches - my problem with Southgate and Schofield was not that their philosophy was wrong, it was that they couldn't play any other way - it's this by the manual playbook that means coaches can't deal with in-game situations. It's like thinking your a joiner after assembling Ikea furniture from the instructions.

Bang on Reg.

“The enemy of a good plan is the dream of a perfect one”.

[ForsolongaRover]

I think that the most important quality in any manager in any organisation is flexibility. You are managing the “here and now” and that flexibility means getting the best out of a squad which will vary in selection and therefore composition more frequently than the average club side.

You need someone who has the depth of ability to adapt in every way and get the best out of players who, if he were a club manager would not necessarily want in his team, but at international level he cannot really exclude from his squad.

It’s no wonder really that so many fail.

[Sprotyrover]

I can’t believe folks on here getting uptight cos Tuchel is a German, after all how many world Cups have they Won?

[Bentley Bullet]

International teams are only able to select players who are eligible to play for them by nationality.

To employ a foreign coach to take charge of our national team is to admit our own coaches are inferior and it is an insult to them and our own country regarding the state of our football.

At what level of the footballing operation is it not an “insult” to have someone non-English employed?

Perhaps English coaches should take personal responsibility for not being good enough. It’s the FA’s job to give them opportunities, which they do. But you can’t spoon-feed individual greatness.

When it's not the ENGLAND team!

[ncRover]

International teams are only able to select players who are eligible to play for them by nationality.

To employ a foreign coach to take charge of our national team is to admit our own coaches are inferior and it is an insult to them and our own country regarding the state of our football.

At what level of the footballing operation is it not an “insult” to have someone non-English employed?

Perhaps English coaches should take personal responsibility for not being good enough. It’s the FA’s job to give them opportunities, which they do. But you can’t spoon-feed individual greatness.

When it's not the ENGLAND team!

Did you take issue with Sarina Wiegman being the women’s manager or Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink being on Southgate’s coaching staff?

[Bentley Bullet]

I'm not taking issue with it. I just think an England team should have an English manager.

Sarina Wiegkan is doing a great job, but, likewise, I'd prefer it if the women's team had an English coach.

Hasselbank has English nationality.

[dickos1]

If a manager gets a tune out of us and wins us a trophy then it’s totally irrelevent who they are or what nationality they are. 

[Bentley Bullet]

Maybe not, but I'm sure we'd all prefer someone with some relevance of national citizenship to win us a trophy.

[steve@dcfd]

I'm not taking issue with it. I just think an England team should have an English manager.

Sarina Wiegkan is doing a great job, but, likewise, I'd prefer it if the women's team had an English coach.

Hasselbank has English nationality.

Apart from Carsley then we have Eddie Howe but to get him the FA would have to
Pay compensation yet he’s won nothing yet. It’s a short contract to do with qualification hopefully and then the World Cup

[Bentley Bullet]

I'd rather have Eddie Howe win a tournament as England manager than Thomas Tuchel, it's as simple as that.

Wouldn't you?

[SydneyRover]

Maybe not, but I'm sure we'd all prefer someone with some relevance of national citizenship to win us a trophy.

If I may be permitted, not all, not possible, I haven't been asked nor have I seen a poll asking that question. In reference to another comment, Hasselbaink may have duel citizenship but even that appears to be an unknown atm unless someone can point to evedence of his status. For me it's irrelevent where a person's origins lie as long as they can do the job. I wouldn't mind seeing DM have a crack he appears to be doing a good job with Port Vale.

[Padge_DRFC]

The only real candidates were Potter and Howe English wise. The latter would have cost a whack in compensation. Obviously didn't fancy Potter. There was Lampard and Gerrard. Neither have done anything in a proper league. (Rangers came top out of 2 teams basically)

[steve@dcfd]

I'd rather have Eddie Howe win a tournament as England manager than Thomas Tuchel, it's as simple as that.

Wouldn't you?

There’s no guarantee with either manager that we could win a World Cup. The FA have set Tuchel a target to try and achieve that but are we good enough do we have the players to achieve that. Gareth tried he may have been to negative but did the players show their true potential in the Euros or weren’t allowed to by the oppositions we played.
Eddie Howe would have been a good call but he’s not won anything yet with the teams he has managed. So they’ve handed the reins over to Tuchel whether he’s German or not is irrelevant he’s won games he’s won Cups in knockout competitions. Carsley is Irish good coach won the U21 competition in knockout competition and therefore could been a better call than Eddie Howe.

[LINCrover2]

I'd rather have Eddie Howe win a tournament as England manager than Thomas Tuchel, it's as simple as that.

Wouldn't you?

I am delighted with the appointment of Thomas Tuchel.

I think I would agree with your point - but I also think that we have a better chance of winning a tournament with Thomas Tuchel than we would with Eddie Howe.

That's what it's all about really!

[Bentley Bullet]

We'd have a better chance of winning with Messi in the side, but he's not English. I just think the same rule should apply to the manager, that's all.

[Pancho Regan]

I'd rather have Eddie Howe win a tournament as England manager than Thomas Tuchel, it's as simple as that.

Wouldn't you?

Yes, I agree BB.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I'd rather have Eddie Howe win a tournament as England manager than Thomas Tuchel, it's as simple as that.

Wouldn't you?

Of course we would. As you said earlier, the appointment highlights the weakness in our National Teams coaching structure. Just as we supposed to identify emerging playing talent, we should be doing the same with coaches and inviting them to be involved in the England set up somehow. Maybe the likes of Howe and Potter should be invited to St Georges Park on international breaks when the teams gather etc., so they can be groomed and prepared when the call comes?

Once we get over the disappointment we haven't appointed an English coach, we can get on and talk about the merits of Tuchel and what we think he can improve on. I don't know him well enough to know what kind of football or system he prefers.