Throw ins

[mushRTID]

Why are we so disgustingly bad at these.
Game after game, year after year.

There was one 2nd half yesterday we tried to take it quick, the receiver wasn’t ready for it and we lost it straight away in a good area of the pitch.

There never seems to be a plan with them other than when it’s thrown back towards our own goal to play it safe.

I don’t know if there are such statistics available for throw in success but I wouldn’t be shocked if we were the worst in the league.

[Donnywolf]

.... and whilst agreeing with you 100% we also need to ask why it takes us so long to take Corners ?

Quite a few times yesterday we had them "under pressure" and they concede a few Corners but we let them get composed again by taking an age to actually take the bloody corner

I know there are training ground set pieces practiced endlessly so couldn't one of them per game be a hit and hope Corner taken as quickly as possible ?

[Ryaldinhio]

.... and whilst agreeing with you 100% we also need to ask why it takes us so long to take Corners ?

Quite a few times yesterday we had them "under pressure" and they concede a few Corners but we let them get composed again by taking an age to actually take the bloody corner

I know there are training ground set pieces practiced endlessly so couldn't one of them per game be a hit and hope Corner taken as quickly as possible ?

What happened to some of the corner routines that got the ball to Moly/Gibson on the corner of the box, these can be really effective but like we don't consider it anymore. Couple times yesterday could've done this easily. We just float it into box with next to no chance of winning a header.

Now we have McGrath who has started to be a threat from corners so it seems we just try and put it on his head, no point in anyone else being up there!!!

Also why do we bring EVERYONE back when defending corners? That does my nut. We should leave atleast 1 person with pace on the half way line. Hurst/Moly or Gibson. It keeps 2 defenders back and gives us an outlet. Absolutely winds me up that one.

[GazLaz]

Noticed that Notts Countys throw in organisation last week was levels above L2. Great rotations and everyone knew what they were to do.

[Usher wide.]

Noticed that Notts Countys throw in organisation last week was levels above L2. Great rotations and everyone knew what they were to do.

Yes I noticed that too but didn’t mention it as I thought the OP was referring to Rovers throw ins.

[GazLaz]

Noticed that Notts Countys throw in organisation last week was levels above L2. Great rotations and everyone knew what they were to do.

Yes I noticed that too but didn’t mention it as I thought the OP was referring to Rovers throw ins.

Just alluding to the standard required really and the details other sides are perfecting that we are not.

[eastender]

I have been saying that our throwings have been poor for a good few years now , we seem like a Sunday morning team and to struggle to find a man with no plan or thought going into it , yet we afford the opposition plenty of space for their men to receive the ball when they have one , we need to get it sorted out pretty quick.

[i_ateallthepies]

Completely agree with all of this and have commented previously about the simplest detail with throwins that we pay no attention to, that of throwing the ball to the receiver to give him the best chance of getting control and doing something with it.  So often the ball is thrown to bounce several feet in front of the receiver and it's up around his chest when it reaches him, he then is trying to get it on the floor and his marker swings a leg around him an toe pokes it off him.

[EasyforDennis]

.... and whilst agreeing with you 100% we also need to ask why it takes us so long to take Corners ?

Quite a few times yesterday we had them "under pressure" and they concede a few Corners but we let them get composed again by taking an age to actually take the bloody corner

I know there are training ground set pieces practiced endlessly so couldn't one of them per game be a hit and hope Corner taken as quickly as possible ?

What happened to some of the corner routines that got the ball to Moly/Gibson on the corner of the box, these can be really effective but like we don't consider it anymore. Couple times yesterday could've done this easily. We just float it into box with next to no chance of winning a header.

Now we have McGrath who has started to be a threat from corners so it seems we just try and put it on his head, no point in anyone else being up there!!!

Also why do we bring EVERYONE back when defending corners? That does my nut. We should leave atleast 1 person with pace on the half way line. Hurst/Moly or Gibson. It keeps 2 defenders back and gives us an outlet. Absolutely winds me up that one.

Totally agree. We waste a player every time we get a corner. Does it really need 2 players at every corner. Why we bring everyone back for an opposition corner is also crazy. It allows the opposition to bring an extra man forward and gives us no outlet whatsoever.

[Bessie Red]

.... and whilst agreeing with you 100% we also need to ask why it takes us so long to take Corners ?

Quite a few times yesterday we had them "under pressure" and they concede a few Corners but we let them get composed again by taking an age to actually take the bloody corner

I know there are training ground set pieces practiced endlessly so couldn't one of them per game be a hit and hope Corner taken as quickly as possible ?

I noticed Cliff Byrne doing his nut at one corner when our players were just ambling toward the corner flag after we had equalised so Im sure they are told to be quicker!

[Butchers Red]

Our corners are feeble - and why does it take 2 men to amble across every time - surely we want as many men in the box as possible?

I never feel like we're going to score from one these days

[mushRTID]

Noticed that Notts Countys throw in organisation last week was levels above L2. Great rotations and everyone knew what they were to do.

Agreed and it got me thinking about this subject last week in all honesty.
It’s only after us been shit again yesterday at them, prompted me to post it really.

[GazLaz]

.... and whilst agreeing with you 100% we also need to ask why it takes us so long to take Corners ?

Quite a few times yesterday we had them "under pressure" and they concede a few Corners but we let them get composed again by taking an age to actually take the bloody corner

I know there are training ground set pieces practiced endlessly so couldn't one of them per game be a hit and hope Corner taken as quickly as possible ?

I noticed Cliff Byrne doing his nut at one corner when our players were just ambling toward the corner flag after we had equalised so Im sure they are told to be quicker!

That’s quite a key point actually. Increased intensity would bring about improvement. I know that’s a pretty generic statement and in theory the same for everyone BUT it’s a big part of our game. Intense moments that are fairly direct and involve individual quality. That’s been our style this season. We are not a passing team. We are not a side, like Walsall, that (home or away) sit in and counter. We need to be more intense at home and play with less caution. That includes fullbacks overlapping more and particularly sustaining attacks through a second and third phase. The centre halves and holding midfielders need to be more aggressive with their positioning the pen teams in a bit more. Yes, it will bring about a higher risk of being countered on but no reward without increased risk.

[drfchound]

There are probably stats which indicate that fewer goals are conceded when everyone gets back to defend a corner.
Perhaps Gaz will have stuff about that.
As for the throw ins, we haven’t been good at them since Coppinger retired from playing.
He was almost always the one who made himself available and returned a good ball back to the thrower.
You wouldn’t think it would be so difficult to do that would you.
Also with him being on the coaching staff he should be able to share his knowledge on that to the players.

[Donnywolf]

.... and whilst agreeing with you 100% we also need to ask why it takes us so long to take Corners ?

Quite a few times yesterday we had them "under pressure" and they concede a few Corners but we let them get composed again by taking an age to actually take the bloody corner

I know there are training ground set pieces practiced endlessly so couldn't one of them per game be a hit and hope Corner taken as quickly as possible ?

I noticed Cliff Byrne doing his nut at one corner when our players were just ambling toward the corner flag after we had equalised so Im sure they are told to be quicker!

Maybe the one where the Crowd all seem to roar simultaneously and it was begging for a "keep Salford under the cosh" and I think we took so much time the "moment" had gone

[ForsolongaRover]

Rarely does the thrower have options - they all seem to run away and its been like that for the last few seasons.

[Lesonthewest]

There are probably stats which indicate that fewer goals are conceded when everyone gets back to defend a corner.
Perhaps Gaz will have stuff about that.
As for the throw ins, we haven’t been good at them since Coppinger retired from playing.
He was almost always the one who made himself available and returned a good ball back to the thrower.
You wouldn’t think it would be so difficult to do that would you.
Also with him being on the coaching staff he should be able to share his knowledge on that to the players.

Was about post the same regarding being awful with throw ins since Copps retired, he had the intelligence to make them a positive, since then we have been truly awful.

[Avsuptem]

Line ball always used to be the  go - to throw in at my mediocre level of playing, usually if your player is positioned correctly all the defender can do is tap  it out of play and hey presto you have gained territory.  Hardly ever see it done at the eco power.

[Avsuptem]

I would suggest most of the long throws that we see are illegal due to being powered from one hand only. Its much harder to throw long with two hands unless you are super human. At ref school I was taught to look.out for a spinning ball indicating that only one hand was really used.

[Barmby Rover]

All the set pieces we get are largely wasted, a lot more needs to be done.

[richtherover]

Maybe we should bring in Tom Tonks! Had to laugh when a female interviewer said to him after that Huddersfield game "That's some weapon you've got there!"

[Mike_F]

Throws are a bugbear of mine. When games can hinge on small margins, it makes sense to be the very best we can be at situations that we know for certain will happen in every game we play.

Attacking and defending throw ins and goal kicks happens several times ever game. We should be prepared enough for the players to know exactly what they need to do in these situations.