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colincramb

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #90 on December 10, 2024, 09:14:24 pm by colincramb »
Ah the meltdown commences by the same bunch!

Get a grip!

No melt down whatsoever by me. Just making a reasonable point. Possibly try to argue it’s wrong instead of trying to find the easy way out?

I will say it again:

Sbarra - not as effective as biggins
Gibson - not as effective as Adelakun
Kelly - nowhere near as good as Craig
TSL - not as good as TLT

Could only argue sharp is an improvement on what we had.



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NickDRFC

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #91 on December 10, 2024, 09:20:54 pm by NickDRFC »
Ah the meltdown commences by the same bunch!

Get a grip!

No melt down whatsoever by me. Just making a reasonable point. Possibly try to argue it’s wrong instead of trying to find the easy way out?

I will say it again:

Sbarra - not as effective as biggins
Gibson - not as effective as Adelakun
Kelly - nowhere near as good as Craig
TSL - not as good as TLT

Could only argue sharp is an improvement on what we had.


I don’t disagree with any of your comparisons but Sbarra, Gibson and arguably even Kelly aren’t in our best/1st choice XI.

colincramb

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #92 on December 10, 2024, 09:23:49 pm by colincramb »
Ah the meltdown commences by the same bunch!

Get a grip!

No melt down whatsoever by me. Just making a reasonable point. Possibly try to argue it’s wrong instead of trying to find the easy way out?

I will say it again:

Sbarra - not as effective as biggins
Gibson - not as effective as Adelakun
Kelly - nowhere near as good as Craig
TSL - not as good as TLT

Could only argue sharp is an improvement on what we had.


I don’t disagree with any of your comparisons but Sbarra, Gibson and arguably even Kelly aren’t in our best/1st choice XI.

But isn’t that the problem, Nick? Weren’t they brought in to replace the players I have mentioned? You could only argue biggins (although he became crucial in the run) wasn’t a guaranteed first team player?

dickos1

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #93 on December 10, 2024, 09:33:18 pm by dickos1 »
If we’re comparing then we need to be comparing apples with apples!
Is our starting 11 better than it was on the 10th December 2023, are we better placed than we were then?
January is a big month but not as big as it was last year, and McCann has shown he knows what he’s doing in Jan.

Back in August if anyone had said we will be 3rd in the table and in the 3rd round of the fa cup in mid December then we would of all snapped their hand off

steve@dcfd

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #94 on December 10, 2024, 09:38:34 pm by steve@dcfd »
Kelly can go back to West Ham in January
Sbarra loan out
Westbrooke can be moved on
Gibson needs a good talking to by GM he’s disappointing every time he plays
The midfield is not good enough to carry on competing at the level we are we need better

Why loan sbarra out? Fringe player (everyteam needs them) hes 25, not exactly a young 18yr old that needs experiance.

Kelly overall been decent this season.
God your standards must be low.
He’s not good to be a good fringe player
Kelly runs down to many blind alleys every time he plays.
Are they an improvement on Craig Adelulaken and and a fringe player in Biggins not to mention Rowe

colincramb

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #95 on December 10, 2024, 09:44:51 pm by colincramb »
If we’re comparing then we need to be comparing apples with apples!
Is our starting 11 better than it was on the 10th December 2023, are we better placed than we were then?
January is a big month but not as big as it was last year, and McCann has shown he knows what he’s doing in Jan.

Back in August if anyone had said we will be 3rd in the table and in the 3rd round of the fa cup in mid December then we would of all snapped their hand off

Yeah, and I’ve said we are doing well to be where we are haven’t I? So not sure what you are arguing with. The point about comparing now to this time last year is irrelevant, so not sure what that has to do with anything.

Yeah, the club did pull off some great signings that saved us last January. Worry is we’ve had all summer to replace those that left and so far, those replacements aren’t as good. That’s my point.

Thorney

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #96 on December 10, 2024, 10:08:01 pm by Thorney »
Kelly can go back to West Ham in January
Sbarra loan out
Westbrooke can be moved on
Gibson needs a good talking to by GM he’s disappointing every time he plays
The midfield is not good enough to carry on competing at the level we are we need better

Why loan sbarra out? Fringe player (everyteam needs them) hes 25, not exactly a young 18yr old that needs experiance.

Kelly overall been decent this season.
God your standards must be low.
He’s not good to be a good fringe player
Kelly runs down to many blind alleys every time he plays.
Are they an improvement on Craig Adelulaken and and a fringe player in Biggins not to mention Rowe

We must see things different.

We was better today before sbarra went off, he is neat and tidy on the ball and can be our most creative midfielder once given a run of games.

And the players you mentioned. The only 1 id happily have back is craig.

Biggins - 2 seasons here and only came good during last 10 games. This time last season majority of fan base wanted to have his contract terminated.

Rowe - love the player, but his time was clearly up last season.

Adelakun - might be a good player but clearly not the best attitude. A player who thinks he is above where we are and that has backfired on him. Why didnt a team higher up the chain fancy signing him? Not really set the leagues alight prior or since he departed us.
 


steve@dcfd

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #97 on December 11, 2024, 12:21:09 am by steve@dcfd »
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We was better today before sbarra went off, he is neat and tidy on the ball and can be our most creative midfielder once given a run of games.

We were better until we took Clifton off then Westbrooke came on we were poor. Sbarra did nothing in this game he couldn’t take any body on.
He was consistently passing the ball backwards without Emmanuel attacking on the right side he did  nothing his passing was poor and weak. When he lost the ball he couldn’t catch any players. So no for me he’s been the worst permanent signing of the summer.

dickos1

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #98 on December 11, 2024, 05:37:40 am by dickos1 »
Sbarra is a better player than biggins, he was here for 2 years and did absolutely nothing for the majority of that time.
We’re 3rd in the table and the negativity on here is astounding, people need to get a grip. This is the best season we’ve had in a very very long time, get behind the team rather than nit picking at everything all the time.
Folk just sit here waiting for a defeat so they can say something negative, it’s ridiculous

colincramb

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #99 on December 11, 2024, 07:21:48 am by colincramb »
You absolutely cannot evidence sbarra is better than biggins. Thats just your opinion. Appears you don’t like other people being entitled to theirs though. Change the narrative about people waiting for defeats dickos, it’s predictable and boring.

TheFunk

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #100 on December 11, 2024, 10:03:58 am by TheFunk »
Any hope of winning that game disappeared as soon as Ironside was taken off. We were the better team and should have won. Poor finishing and crossing were the only reason we lost.

dickos1

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #101 on December 11, 2024, 12:41:41 pm by dickos1 »
You absolutely cannot evidence sbarra is better than biggins. Thats just your opinion. Appears you don’t like other people being entitled to theirs though. Change the narrative about people waiting for defeats dickos, it’s predictable and boring.

Of course it’s my opinion, as was yours when you stated it as factual.
End of the day, would you have been happy with our league position if asked in July.
Yes you would that’s not opinion, just fact

Pancho Regan

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Re: TLOD vs Port Vale (Vertu trophy)
« Reply #102 on December 12, 2024, 10:35:00 pm by Pancho Regan »
You absolutely cannot evidence sbarra is better than biggins. Thats just your opinion. Appears you don’t like other people being entitled to theirs though. Change the narrative about people waiting for defeats dickos, it’s predictable and boring.

Can you evidence that Sbarra is not as effective as Biggins?

Just asking.

 

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