Pathetic

[Filo]

Agree with the last two posts, first half we were ok, they stepped up & dominated the second half, I can't agree with Grant saying there was nothing in the game.
I can't believe the Ironside miss hasn't been mentioned though, we could have at least had an exciting last ten minutes.

I’ve only seen that Ironside shot once. As I recall it was from a near post cross but he had two defenders quite close to him and one of them was directly in line with the goal.
He had to take the shot first time and if it had been on target I seem to think that it would have hit the defender.
I will have another look later on the highlights, if it is shown of course.

Just seen the highlights from the Rovers website and the Ironside incident isn’t part of it.
However I thought at the time that Walsalls second goal should have been ruled out for offside and having seen it again, and replayed it several times, I am even more convinced that it shouldn’t have counted.

I’m of the same opinion

[Usher wide.]

I'm only led by the results Rovers have put together this season and the comments following games I read on here which can be a pretty mixed bag at the best of times but that's most fans forums if the truth be told .

What I do know is that there are characteristics a squad of players must have if they are to achieve automatic promotion and that's from every level of football , the play offs are a different kettle of fish altogether .

The ability to gain automatic promotion isn't so much as how well you perform but more how good the results are when you aren't at your best .

I'm sure as I do you remember the two games we played against Rovers in our league one promotion season under Daniel Stendel , Rovers were the better team on the day in both games and probably should have won both .

We managed to get a point out of both games despite the fact we were way below our best , it was repeated several times over that season , we were totally outplayed at Walsall during the run in and scored late on to claim 3 priceless points .

Generally speaking there isn't too much between your competitors for automatic promotion and yourself , a couple of per cent may be at best .

It's the team who have that 2% more resolve , belief and the ability to stick in when it's tough who prevail in my opinion .

That's often a state of mind with a group of players who give that extra 2% .

Find that in the second half of the season and you should get the job done .

I know you have people on here who over the time you’ve been patronising our forum appear to have grown fond of you & your occasional little inputs, suggestions & bonhomie.

You remind me of the Leeds supporter I’ve ‘inherited’ as a neighbour. Whenever he catches me cutting the front lawn as he goes off for walkies with his two dogs (who I will shoot the next time one of them pisses on my lawn) who will linger long enough so that I’d have to be Stevie Wonders not to see him.

The conversation then goes along the lines of LN (Leeds neighbour), “I see you drew at home against on Saturday. Was it a good game?” As if he gives a sh**e one way or another.

ME (this is me & in an attempt to cut conversation to a minimum because a) I want to finish the grass as I have other things to do, b) he’s a Leeds fan. “Not really to be honest”, then I go to start the mower up again with a neighbourly nod & forced smile.

LN “We should have had a forth in all fairness”.

ME Eyes raised to the heavens & a shrug of the shoulders I attempt to fire the mower up again.

LN “Mind you, their keeper played well I’ll give them that much. Is Billy Sharp playing well? I expect it’s much easier for him playing at a lower level. Are you league one or two now, I always forget?”.

Like buggery he does.

ME “League two & no, Billy’s not finding it as easy as some people suggested he might”.

LN “I suppose he’ll not be getting the same sort of service he’s been used to”.

Oh why don’t you just p**s off with your pedigree pets you condescending ba****d who gives not a jot for my club & whose own club I would dearly love to see trip up & miss out on the play offs….I think to myself.

Which is where you come in.

Don’t Barnsley have a forum of their own where you can wallow amongst kith & kin?

If so, please go & pi** on your ‘own lawn’.

Happy New Year.

[dickos1]

I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.

Nothings won or lost in December and GM has the backing of the fans but I do believe there's questions to be asked, I think his recruitments been very poor and offering certain players new contracts when they've had a history of inept performances or injuries is bizarre. I always like Grants honesty in his interviews but after yesterday's game he appeared visibly shaken/adjitated and seemed to place the blame on the players and our finishing when I thought the bigger issue was our tactics and how he set the team up. A couple of new additions in January and we could look a completely different team , but GM's continually bigged up the squad and the players but we seem to be underperforming.

I agree about Grants interview yesterday. He looked knackered and very concerned.

It feels as though he is realising his signings aren’t delivering and we are way short of the standard we set last season.

Last season was a disaster in comparison to this one, we were in a relegation battle until March,
So the standards this season are a big improvement if we’re comparing like for like.

[Pancho Regan]

I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.

Just when you think you’ve read the most ridiculous post of the season, you read this.

[Pancho Regan]

I'm only led by the results Rovers have put together this season and the comments following games I read on here which can be a pretty mixed bag at the best of times but that's most fans forums if the truth be told .

What I do know is that there are characteristics a squad of players must have if they are to achieve automatic promotion and that's from every level of football , the play offs are a different kettle of fish altogether .

The ability to gain automatic promotion isn't so much as how well you perform but more how good the results are when you aren't at your best .

I'm sure as I do you remember the two games we played against Rovers in our league one promotion season under Daniel Stendel , Rovers were the better team on the day in both games and probably should have won both .

We managed to get a point out of both games despite the fact we were way below our best , it was repeated several times over that season , we were totally outplayed at Walsall during the run in and scored late on to claim 3 priceless points .

Generally speaking there isn't too much between your competitors for automatic promotion and yourself , a couple of per cent may be at best .

It's the team who have that 2% more resolve , belief and the ability to stick in when it's tough who prevail in my opinion .

That's often a state of mind with a group of players who give that extra 2% .

Find that in the second half of the season and you should get the job done .

Phew, I can rest easy now, knowing that this Barnsley fan has said we should get the job done.

[scawsby steve]

I disagree with the above comments about Tyke. A lot of posters I know, enjoy his input, both on here and in off-topic.

Also, he was magnanimous enough to admit we were the better team in the 2 draws we had with his team during their League 1 promotion season.

Keep posting, Tyke, as a fellow South Yorkshireman.

[Ryaldinhio]

I disagree with the above comments about Tyke. A lot of posters I know enjoy his input, both on here and in off-topic.

Also, he was magnanimous enough to admit we were the better team in the 2 draws we had with his team during their League 1 promotion season.

Keep posting, Tyke, as a fellow South Yorkshireman.

I agree with this, don't mind having an alternative view......and to be fair he talks more sense than atleast 40% of the so called Donny fans in here  and that's being VERY Conservative

[roversdude]

Keep posting Tyke you are a decent poster

[danumdon]

I'm only led by the results Rovers have put together this season and the comments following games I read on here which can be a pretty mixed bag at the best of times but that's most fans forums if the truth be told .

What I do know is that there are characteristics a squad of players must have if they are to achieve automatic promotion and that's from every level of football , the play offs are a different kettle of fish altogether .

The ability to gain automatic promotion isn't so much as how well you perform but more how good the results are when you aren't at your best .

I'm sure as I do you remember the two games we played against Rovers in our league one promotion season under Daniel Stendel , Rovers were the better team on the day in both games and probably should have won both .

We managed to get a point out of both games despite the fact we were way below our best , it was repeated several times over that season , we were totally outplayed at Walsall during the run in and scored late on to claim 3 priceless points .

Generally speaking there isn't too much between your competitors for automatic promotion and yourself , a couple of per cent may be at best .

It's the team who have that 2% more resolve , belief and the ability to stick in when it's tough who prevail in my opinion .

That's often a state of mind with a group of players who give that extra 2% .

Find that in the second half of the season and you should get the job done .

I know you have people on here who over the time you’ve been patronising our forum appear to have grown fond of you & your occasional little inputs, suggestions & bonhomie.

You remind me of the Leeds supporter I’ve ‘inherited’ as a neighbour. Whenever he catches me cutting the front lawn as he goes off for walkies with his two dogs (who I will shoot the next time one of them pisses on my lawn) who will linger long enough so that I’d have to be Stevie Wonders not to see him.

The conversation then goes along the lines of LN (Leeds neighbour), “I see you drew at home against on Saturday. Was it a good game?” As if he gives a sh**e one way or another.

ME (this is me & in an attempt to cut conversation to a minimum because a) I want to finish the grass as I have other things to do, b) he’s a Leeds fan. “Not really to be honest”, then I go to start the mower up again with a neighbourly nod & forced smile.

LN “We should have had a forth in all fairness”.

ME Eyes raised to the heavens & a shrug of the shoulders I attempt to fire the mower up again.

LN “Mind you, their keeper played well I’ll give them that much. Is Billy Sharp playing well? I expect it’s much easier for him playing at a lower level. Are you league one or two now, I always forget?”.

Like buggery he does.

ME “League two & no, Billy’s not finding it as easy as some people suggested he might”.

LN “I suppose he’ll not be getting the same sort of service he’s been used to”.

Oh why don’t you just p**s off with your pedigree pets you condescending ba****d who gives not a jot for my club & whose own club I would dearly love to see trip up & miss out on the play offs….I think to myself.

Which is where you come in.

Don’t Barnsley have a forum of their own where you can wallow amongst kith & kin?

If so, please go & pi** on your ‘own lawn’.

Happy New Year.

Totally wide of the mark,

We don't exist in a bubble, someone said Tyke talks more sense than 40%of posters on here, understated.

[drfchound]

Yep, keep posting on here Tyke.
Good to hear what fans of other clubs think of Rovers and also your comments on other topics too.

[tyke1962]

We were on the receiving end of this earlier in the month .

OK Birmingham City have spent big and have recruited some top players but they were way below their best and we actually put in a decent performance at home for once and were the better side .

We got ourselves in front and looked good to score again and put the game to bed but Birmingham hung in there , defenders putting their bodies on the line and kept grafting .

Not only that it was pyssing down with rain and blowing a gale and they were playing right in to the teeth of it in the second half .

The buggas turned it around though and won 2-1 through sheer will and resolve .

The word coming out of Oakwell was that we were unlucky and Birmingham aren't that great and were generally hugely unimpressive .

I was the other way myself , I thought that's pretty much how you get it done and it's those kind of games at the end of the season that make the difference between promotion and play offs .

They impressed me considerably , they wouldn't be the first club to spend big only to find some of the big money players don't fancy it when it's tough but they did .

I know we wouldn't have turned it around as we are at the moment .

Appreciate your kind words .

[Thorney]

Yea keep posting tyke. Enjoy reading the comments from someone with and outside view of our club.

[Butchers Red]

I'm only led by the results Rovers have put together this season and the comments following games I read on here which can be a pretty mixed bag at the best of times but that's most fans forums if the truth be told .

What I do know is that there are characteristics a squad of players must have if they are to achieve automatic promotion and that's from every level of football , the play offs are a different kettle of fish altogether .

The ability to gain automatic promotion isn't so much as how well you perform but more how good the results are when you aren't at your best .

I'm sure as I do you remember the two games we played against Rovers in our league one promotion season under Daniel Stendel , Rovers were the better team on the day in both games and probably should have won both .

We managed to get a point out of both games despite the fact we were way below our best , it was repeated several times over that season , we were totally outplayed at Walsall during the run in and scored late on to claim 3 priceless points .

Generally speaking there isn't too much between your competitors for automatic promotion and yourself , a couple of per cent may be at best .

It's the team who have that 2% more resolve , belief and the ability to stick in when it's tough who prevail in my opinion .

That's often a state of mind with a group of players who give that extra 2% .

Find that in the second half of the season and you should get the job done .

I know you have people on here who over the time you’ve been patronising our forum appear to have grown fond of you & your occasional little inputs, suggestions & bonhomie.

You remind me of the Leeds supporter I’ve ‘inherited’ as a neighbour. Whenever he catches me cutting the front lawn as he goes off for walkies with his two dogs (who I will shoot the next time one of them pisses on my lawn) who will linger long enough so that I’d have to be Stevie Wonders not to see him.

The conversation then goes along the lines of LN (Leeds neighbour), “I see you drew at home against on Saturday. Was it a good game?” As if he gives a sh**e one way or another.

ME (this is me & in an attempt to cut conversation to a minimum because a) I want to finish the grass as I have other things to do, b) he’s a Leeds fan. “Not really to be honest”, then I go to start the mower up again with a neighbourly nod & forced smile.

LN “We should have had a forth in all fairness”.

ME Eyes raised to the heavens & a shrug of the shoulders I attempt to fire the mower up again.

LN “Mind you, their keeper played well I’ll give them that much. Is Billy Sharp playing well? I expect it’s much easier for him playing at a lower level. Are you league one or two now, I always forget?”.

Like buggery he does.

ME “League two & no, Billy’s not finding it as easy as some people suggested he might”.

LN “I suppose he’ll not be getting the same sort of service he’s been used to”.

Oh why don’t you just p**s off with your pedigree pets you condescending ba****d who gives not a jot for my club & whose own club I would dearly love to see trip up & miss out on the play offs….I think to myself.

Which is where you come in.

Don’t Barnsley have a forum of their own where you can wallow amongst kith & kin?

If so, please go & pi** on your ‘own lawn’.

Happy New Year.

What a big bundle of joy you are eh !

Were you Victor Meldrew's scriptwriter ??

[mushRTID]

I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.

Nothings won or lost in December and GM has the backing of the fans but I do believe there's questions to be asked, I think his recruitments been very poor and offering certain players new contracts when they've had a history of inept performances or injuries is bizarre. I always like Grants honesty in his interviews but after yesterday's game he appeared visibly shaken/adjitated and seemed to place the blame on the players and our finishing when I thought the bigger issue was our tactics and how he set the team up. A couple of new additions in January and we could look a completely different team , but GM's continually bigged up the squad and the players but we seem to be underperforming.

I agree about Grants interview yesterday. He looked knackered and very concerned.

It feels as though he is realising his signings aren’t delivering and we are way short of the standard we set last season.

Last season was a disaster in comparison to this one, we were in a relegation battle until March,
So the standards this season are a big improvement if we’re comparing like for like.

I agree. However I’m comparing to late last season. I think you know that but have jumped on a little bit of ambiguity I left so fair play to you for that.

I will rephrase. The signings are falling short of the standards required to come back this season and “win the league”…Grants statement, not mine.

Listen I will happily take 3rd spot now and be absolutely buzzing about it.
I can’t help but be concerned at how far behind Walsall we are though. Not just points but the way both teams played. I thought it was men against boys for large spells of the game.

We finished last season on fire and the manager was significantly backed again in the summer. I don’t think we should be that far behind them.

[Lesonthewest]

Never laid a glove on them. Don't understand our tactics, fair enough 2 up top but too narrow with no width. Broadbents not good enough and I don't really rate Kelly. Grant has to take full responsibility for this , been backed in the transfer market but we look bang average and devoid of ideas.

Pathetic comment! Get a grip lad. Beaten by the league leaders who showed why they are top. Thought we did ok first half. But they stepped up a gear 2nd half and we couldn't cope. They were bigger better stronger faster. We are still in the mix for promotion but we need a couple of additions in Jan.

If we've aspirations of winning the league and you think that's an acceptable performance then you're deluded. Losers accept mediocricy, winners don't . But yeah let's get checkbook back out and back him again.

Spot on, although I do believe with a couple of signings, & a settled side, we could go on a decent run, but don't worry the positive
 police are out again, so all will be fine, nothing to discuss or critique here.

[saddlesore]

Walsall played at home today, Walsall are top of the league, their main striker is reportedly going back in the new year, cutting short his loan

The only people saying that Lowe is leaving are our rivals, in hope.

The last two seasons our form has been derailed by our top scorer going back in January. That's why we chose a Championship loanee to avoid that happening. That's not to say it won't, especially now Stoke will be looking for another new manager, but it will halt his development if recalled now and isn't starting regularly in the Championship, which is unlikely, given their position.

Anyway, we've got plenty of options. Most won't even have heard of Cleary on loan from WBA, who has one of the best youth scoring records around. Then Danny Johnson, who is a class finisher at this level. They just haven't had much of a chance with how the others have been performing. When they have, they've scored.

There's a lot of negativity on here, as there is from Vale fans at the moment. Your performances may not have been great, but the league table says you're as good as anyone, and your performance showed that, in the first half at least. We just restricted you to long range efforts.

[StocksArmy]

I think our league position, our form leading into today, the gap in points and performance between the 2 teams leaves a really bad taste and for this I think the manager needs to be up for being replaced. He’s been backed, he’s made the don’t come back speech after Crewe so now… you lay in your bed. We are nowhere near being good enough to come back from this. We can’t just keep hoping January will be a success every year. Manager should go for me. He’s failed.

Just when you think you’ve read the most ridiculous post of the season, you read this.

Let’s see how ridiculous it is the more these performances and results go on. Says it all that January is being so eagerly anticipated because we all know that this squad won’t get us promoted which again, just emphasises that his recruitment has been p!ss poor.

[dickos1]

We’re 3rd in the table for gods sake,
You’re going on like we’re 20th,

[StocksArmy]

Well I’m glad you are here to remind me. Does that mean if performances continue and we drop out of 3rd we are allowed to criticise? Or would that still be unacceptable to the happy clappers?

[Alan Southstand]

Over the last 10 games, we’re 12th!

[Bessie Red]

Over the last 10 games, we’re 12th!

Good job we've played the other 12 games before that then!!

[Metalmicky]

Over the last 10 games, we’re 12th!

How's that glass Alan..... need a top up.?

[Nudga]

Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?

Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.

[Metalmicky]

Why take the piss out of Alan's comment?

Grant even uses blocks of games and mini league tables.

Because Alan is a glass half empty fella..... virtually all the time....

[dickos1]

I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form

[redarmi66]

Well I’m glad you are here to remind me. Does that mean if performances continue and we drop out of 3rd we are allowed to criticise? Or would that still be unacceptable to the happy clappers?

Not happy clappers at all. Concerned with current form and constructive criticism is warranted.But stating the manager has failed in December when we sit in a promotion place is ludicrous. As is demanding he be sacked!! Its a long season. He will judged at the end.Lets see!

[Usher wide.]

I'm only led by the results Rovers have put together this season and the comments following games I read on here which can be a pretty mixed bag at the best of times but that's most fans forums if the truth be told .

What I do know is that there are characteristics a squad of players must have if they are to achieve automatic promotion and that's from every level of football , the play offs are a different kettle of fish altogether .

The ability to gain automatic promotion isn't so much as how well you perform but more how good the results are when you aren't at your best .

I'm sure as I do you remember the two games we played against Rovers in our league one promotion season under Daniel Stendel , Rovers were the better team on the day in both games and probably should have won both .

We managed to get a point out of both games despite the fact we were way below our best , it was repeated several times over that season , we were totally outplayed at Walsall during the run in and scored late on to claim 3 priceless points .

Generally speaking there isn't too much between your competitors for automatic promotion and yourself , a couple of per cent may be at best .

It's the team who have that 2% more resolve , belief and the ability to stick in when it's tough who prevail in my opinion .

That's often a state of mind with a group of players who give that extra 2% .

Find that in the second half of the season and you should get the job done .

I know you have people on here who over the time you’ve been patronising our forum appear to have grown fond of you & your occasional little inputs, suggestions & bonhomie.

You remind me of the Leeds supporter I’ve ‘inherited’ as a neighbour. Whenever he catches me cutting the front lawn as he goes off for walkies with his two dogs (who I will shoot the next time one of them pisses on my lawn) who will linger long enough so that I’d have to be Stevie Wonders not to see him.

The conversation then goes along the lines of LN (Leeds neighbour), “I see you drew at home against on Saturday. Was it a good game?” As if he gives a sh**e one way or another.

ME (this is me & in an attempt to cut conversation to a minimum because a) I want to finish the grass as I have other things to do, b) he’s a Leeds fan. “Not really to be honest”, then I go to start the mower up again with a neighbourly nod & forced smile.

LN “We should have had a forth in all fairness”.

ME Eyes raised to the heavens & a shrug of the shoulders I attempt to fire the mower up again.

LN “Mind you, their keeper played well I’ll give them that much. Is Billy Sharp playing well? I expect it’s much easier for him playing at a lower level. Are you league one or two now, I always forget?”.

Like buggery he does.

ME “League two & no, Billy’s not finding it as easy as some people suggested he might”.

LN “I suppose he’ll not be getting the same sort of service he’s been used to”.

Oh why don’t you just p**s off with your pedigree pets you condescending ba****d who gives not a jot for my club & whose own club I would dearly love to see trip up & miss out on the play offs….I think to myself.

Which is where you come in.

Don’t Barnsley have a forum of their own where you can wallow amongst kith & kin?

If so, please go & pi** on your ‘own lawn’.

Happy New Year.

What a big bundle of joy you are eh !

Were you Victor Meldrew's scriptwriter ??

No, but I did once write a screenplay about a bunch of sycophants who enjoyed having smoke blown their arses.

Before I could put it out to interested parties it was bought up by Mel Brooks & eventually turned into the film Blazing Saddles.

I particularly enjoyed the first part of the film where the white ‘cowboys’ were endeavouring to get the black workers to sing ‘Negro Songs’, but the black workers (whilst not exactly ‘refusing’ to sing the usual black slave songs the white men wanted) sang ‘their versions’ of popularised ‘white songs’ of the time such as ‘Smoke gets in your Eyes’.

[Barmby Rover]

WE are in a bad run of form, that doesn't mean the season is over, but Rovers, as usual are making it hard for themselves. I'm not sure if we will get the stated aim of going up as champions, Walsall seem to have that momentum that winners have, it is whether we can hang on to the coat-tails now. It starts against Port Vale to prove the point.

[StocksArmy]

I guarantee if we were top in the 10 game form table but 14th in the table folk like Alan and stocks army wouldn’t be on here praising the ten game form

I guarantee if we were rock bottom with no wins, no draws and 22 losses you’d still be here saying there is still 24 games to go.

[jmt23]

Good job there were a few who did last season!

Success is promotion, failure is staying put, simple as that.