TSL

[Ryaldinhio]

Walsall 3 shots on target scored 2 - 66%

Fleetwood 2 shots on target scored 1 - 50%

Port Vale 3 shots on target scored 2 - 66%

His BIG plus is his distribution which he isn't using? If you take his distribution out of the equation is he all that?

I'm still not convinced.

[DonnyOsmond]

Conceded 30 from expected 21.6. The defence for the most part is doing its job.

[In the box]

Walsall 3 shots on target scored 2 - 66%

Fleetwood 2 shots on target scored 1 - 50%

Port Vale 3 shots on target scored 2 - 66%

His BIG plus is his distribution which he isn't using? If you take his distribution out of the equation is he all that?

I'm still not convinced.

makes you wonder if he has a positioning  problem ..

[NickDRFC]

Conceded 30 from expected 21.6. The defence for the most part is doing its job.

How does that expected figure work? Is it based on where the shot goes in the goal? So one straight at him would be an expected goal conceded of almost zero? Or is it just based on the expected goal figure? As if it’s the latter, surely at least some of the variance could be down to really good finishes, deflections etc.

[Nudga]

Doesn't help when the right back is shit at defending and constantly let's oppo get inside.

[Padge_DRFC]

Conceded 30 from expected 21.6. The defence for the most part is doing its job.

Can't use this at all. Same thing used if all 30 got put over the bar

[Thorney]

Though stats mean shit.
If a team has 2 shots on goal but are absolute worldies then does that go against a keeper?

Or are that team more clinical?

If football was won on shots on goal alone then why hasnt any team just taken pot shots feom 30 yard everytime.

[The Beast]

How did their lad score that second goal today? I’m in the SW corner but the angles totally baffled me, looked impossible to score the way the attacker went in.

[DonnyOsmond]

Conceded 30 from expected 21.6. The defence for the most part is doing its job.

How does that expected figure work? Is it based on where the shot goes in the goal? So one straight at him would be an expected goal conceded of almost zero? Or is it just based on the expected goal figure? As if it’s the latter, surely at least some of the variance could be down to really good finishes, deflections etc.

Over a small dataset you would have a point but over 25 games it's big enough where you can use it as a judge.

[DonnyOsmond]

Though stats mean shit.
If a team has 2 shots on goal but are absolute worldies then does that go against a keeper?

Or are that team more clinical?

If football was won on shots on goal alone then why hasnt any team just taken pot shots feom 30 yard everytime.

Every team we play against must be really f*cking clinical against us then and then turn back to normal after.

[DonnyOsmond]

FBRef, FotMob and others have him in the bottom 4 for save percentage for the league but if you lot aren't ready to mention TSL in any criticism that's fine we can talk about it later in the season when you wake up.

[RoversInSpain]

Another post of rubbish.
If you don’t get a first touch to a quality cross into your area you’re done.Today we were second to balls into the box…. At both ends.
Absolute quality finishes, end of.

[Ryaldinhio]

Another post of rubbish.
If you don’t get a first touch to a quality cross into your area you’re done.Today we were second to balls into the box…. At both ends.
Absolute quality finishes, end of.

Watch the highlights back. They weren't quality finishes at all. He will be very dissapointed with himself for both.

Note - if that was Louis he would be getting ripped to pieces.

[DonnyOsmond]

Another post of rubbish.
If you don’t get a first touch to a quality cross into your area you’re done.Today we were second to balls into the box…. At both ends.
Absolute quality finishes, end of.

Watch the highlights back. They weren't quality finishes at all. He will be very dissapointed with himself for both.

Note - if that was Louis he would be getting ripped to pieces.

Reckon Louis would have saved that first one tbf.

[Ryaldinhio]

Another post of rubbish.
If you don’t get a first touch to a quality cross into your area you’re done.Today we were second to balls into the box…. At both ends.
Absolute quality finishes, end of.

Watch the highlights back. They weren't quality finishes at all. He will be very dissapointed with himself for both.

Note - if that was Louis he would be getting ripped to pieces.

Reckon Louis would have saved that first one tbf.

And the second for me.

By the way, the third shot on target I don't think was actually on target, I was sat right behind it and it would've hit side netting.....looked like a good save though.

[GazLaz]

Another post of rubbish.
If you don’t get a first touch to a quality cross into your area you’re done.Today we were second to balls into the box…. At both ends.
Absolute quality finishes, end of.

Watch the highlights back. They weren't quality finishes at all. He will be very dissapointed with himself for both.

Note - if that was Louis he would be getting ripped to pieces.

Reckon Louis would have saved that first one tbf.

And the second for me.

By the way, the third shot on target I don't think was actually on target, I was sat right behind it and it would've hit side netting.....looked like a good save though.

The second was deflected past him wasn’t it? No chance with it.

[CJK]

I raised this last week. It does feel like teams are extremely clinical against us because we seem to be defensively solid most of the game, only giving away few opportunities, but when we do, it seems to result in a goal.

Today for example, I haven't looked at the stats, but I'd guess they had three shots on target and they've scored two.

DonnyOsmond provided some stats last week regarding this and it appears to back my thoughts up. I've seen the highlights today and the guy is unmarked for the second goal but the shot isn't great.

[dickos1]

Second goal deflected up off McGrath,
He didn’t have much chance with that

[Pliskin]

I'm not convinced either.

Looks good with the ball at his feet, but flaps at crosses and doesn't actually seem to save many shots.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

The first goal we would hope TSL could do better but not the root cause of the problem.

Second was a bit freaky how it looped up over him but again not the root cause.

On balance, if he saves one of them then he's earned us a point. There's very few points overall that have been lost due to TSL.

There are potentially at least six players in front of him who we could equally not be convinced by including Joe Ironside who we could say wasn't strong enough to hold off a defender to tap in a goal.

TSL isn't the reason for our recent poor form. It's a team game and we haven't been good enough in areas further up the pitch.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

I think he's good on crosses, but you've got to question his shot stopping a little.  Better keepers save both their goals today I think.

[Ryaldinhio]

I am not saying that he is individually to blame for the goals, clearly there is one or two mistakes before you rely on the keeper.

That said a good keeper stops these shots and wins you points. We had that last year with TLT. We don't with TSL.

As a shot stopper he is definitely a step down from TLT, and personally I don't think he is any better than what we have in Lawler and Louis.

Yes his distribution can be good but not in recent games.

If we were seeing absolute worldies fly past him then I could sympathise but barring one or two decent ones these are just normal shots that go past him.

The facts show that there are less shots on target saved than go in........this is not a scape goat, it is a genuine concern.

[Usher wide.]

So, that’s all common sense views aired then.

Step up Ian Lawlor.

[Ryaldinhio]

So, that’s all common sense views aired then.

Step up Ian Lawlor.

What a great post, really well considered and productive to the discussion 

[Usher wide.]

So, that’s all common sense views aired then.

Step up Ian Lawlor.

What a great post, really well considered and productive to the discussion 

And when you’re finished criticising Ted to bits please tell me, where are ‘you going’ exactly.

I’d do ‘rolling of eyes’ at this point but I leave emoji’s to my nine year old.

[Ryaldinhio]

So, that’s all common sense views aired then.

Step up Ian Lawlor.

What a great post, really well considered and productive to the discussion 

And when you’re finished criticising Ted to bits please tell me, where are ‘you going’ exactly.

I’d do ‘rolling of eyes’ at this point but I leave emoji’s to my nine year old.

Criticising to bits? Where is that exactly?

I've said:
I'm not convinced by him.
TLT stopped these goals last yr and won us points.
As a shot stopped IMO he isn't any different to having Lawlor or Jones.

If that is criticising to bits then what can be said?

If you also read through you will note the compliment of his distribution so if you need a shit sandwich for soft edges within your modern thinking of harsh criticism there it is.

His distribution is VERY good - we should be working on using it!!!

[Paul Simpson]

Midfield is the problem

[DonnyOsmond]

Midfield is the reason why TSL is letting in shots he should really be saving.

[StocksArmy]

Another post of rubbish.
If you don’t get a first touch to a quality cross into your area you’re done.Today we were second to balls into the box…. At both ends.
Absolute quality finishes, end of.

Watch the highlights back. They weren't quality finishes at all. He will be very dissapointed with himself for both.

Note - if that was Louis he would be getting ripped to pieces.

Reckon Louis would have saved that first one tbf.

And the second for me.

By the way, the third shot on target I don't think was actually on target, I was sat right behind it and it would've hit side netting.....looked like a good save though.

The second was deflected past him wasn’t it? No chance with it.

My mate text me saying he was at fault for the first. And I didn’t agree. Watched the highlights back and he was definitely at fault. It was well placed and I think went through Kelly’s legs but he was stood in the corner where it went in. You then look at the other end. Sharp has an identical shot and the keeper saves it onto the post. I have been saying TSL has come on a hell of a lot but, looking at his stats somebody has posted I am obviously wrong but, what do you do? Drop him and start Lawlor? No thanks. Poor recruitment again.

[obeonesarover]

I posted this on another thread but this is my opinion on TSL ...on TSL being a good shot stopper, both the goals yesterday went through him, his positioning ok but his shot stopping reactions are too slow, this is not the first time he lets in goals that even Jones would gobble up, I agree his distribution is good but this lad sees himself as a sweeper the first goal yesterday went right under him and was only medium strength power , maybe we are crowding him out and should give him more room but for me TLT instead of TSL and we would be romping this league