Meet the Owners

[ravenrover]

I agree with Gaz on this one no attempt to play the ball and not just an ankle tap but a full on kick, violent conduct for me

[Filo]

It wasn’t a kick, it was studs down the shin, the ball had gone, red card without a doubt

https://x.com/watch_lfc/status/1883184096865878518?s=61&t=DCRm1C_BBr5pt7J45jXUsA

[ravenrover]

On the subject of red cards, watch the assault on Endo for Liverpool, by Enciso and tell me that didn't warrent a red! He only got a yellow

[ravenrover]

It wasn’t a kick, it was studs down the shin, the ball had gone, red card without a doubt

https://x.com/watch_lfc/status/1883184096865878518?s=61&t=DCRm1C_BBr5pt7J45jXUsA

OK terminology if you insist then Filo, but still a red

[drfchound]

I often wonder how many of our refs have actually played football, even at Sunday league level.
Some of the things they miss are incredibly easy to spot.
For example, the sly nudge to one side of a player who is jumping to head a ball, how many times does that go unnoticed.
Then there is the shirt pull which holds a player back and makes him look like he is doing a moonwalk.
There is a sizeable list of these things which everyone but the ref can see.

Strangely enough, mate, one of the best refs in the world, Michael Oliver, has obviously played no football since his early schooldays, if at all. He began refereeing at 14, and was refereeing in the Northern League at just 18.

I personally think good eyesight and expert understanding of the rules are more important than experience of playing. JMHO.

Hi Steve

I gotta watch MotD tonight. The commentators at Molineux today were apoplectic about the sending off of the Arsenal lad. I thought as you do about Michael Oliver. But I think we ought to watch MotD tonight....

BobG

Baffling decision. If that’s a red then you’d see hundreds across the country every week. Two things that are worse than the original decision though:

1. Why is VAR not intervening? The ref can make mistakes in real time but the VAR has to be overturning that as a clear and obvious error.

2. The second yellow given to Gomes was worse than Lewis-Skelly’s. Yes, the end result was the same but he should have been issued a straight red if Lewis-Skelly’s challenge warranted it. Inconsistency across games is hard to eradicate but consistency within games should be the bare minimum.

If there’s that level of inconsistency and incompetence right at the top level then what hope do we have in League Two?

I think I heard the pundits on MotD say that VAR had checked it and backed up the refs decision.

[drfchound]

Come on Gaz, it’s never a red card. It will probably be rescinded.

On another note. No idea what we’ve done with the PA system. No longer even audible in west stand. Whatever they have done has made it 100x worse

At Hull it was noticeable how good their PA system was.
It was like listening to your own sound system at home.
I know it probably cost considerably more than ours but my mate at the game commented on how it didn’t seem to be on full volume and that we were still able to speak to each other without shouting and still be able to hear what was being announced in the stadium.

[Dagenham Rover]

Come on Gaz, it’s never a red card. It will probably be rescinded.

On another note. No idea what we’ve done with the PA system. No longer even audible in west stand. Whatever they have done has made it 100x worse

At Hull it was noticeable how good their PA system was.
It was like listening to your own sound system at home.
I know it probably cost considerably more than ours but my mate at the game commented on how it didn’t seem to be on full volume and that we were still able to speak to each other without shouting and still be able to hear what was being announced in the stadium.

Doesnt even sound as if its turned on in the West Stand totally impossible to understand and  hear. Whoever the sound Engineer trying to tweak it needs to come into the West on a normal matchday

[GazLaz]

Come on Gaz, it’s never a red card. It will probably be rescinded.

On another note. No idea what we’ve done with the PA system. No longer even audible in west stand. Whatever they have done has made it 100x worse

Absolutely zero chance it gets overturned.

[Filo]

Come on Gaz, it’s never a red card. It will probably be rescinded.

On another note. No idea what we’ve done with the PA system. No longer even audible in west stand. Whatever they have done has made it 100x worse

At Hull it was noticeable how good their PA system was.
It was like listening to your own sound system at home.
I know it probably cost considerably more than ours but my mate at the game commented on how it didn’t seem to be on full volume and that we were still able to speak to each other without shouting and still be able to hear what was being announced in the stadium.

Doesnt even sound as if its turned on in the West Stand totally impossible to understand and  hear. Whoever the sound Engineer trying to tweak it needs to come into the West on a normal matchday

They may as well not bother with it in the West Stand its that crap, is it like that in other stands?

I do wonder how they would mange to get an evacuate the Stadium message across if the need arises

[Cramby10]

Bloody deafening in the East yesterday. Unbearable.

[TonySoprano]

It's a bit embarrassing just how bad the sound system is.
Honestly think it needs sorting properly.

The broken bulbs in the floodlights need sorting aswell.
Supposed to be a professional football club, not Sunday league.

The stadium will be going the way of glanford park is the don't spend some money on it.

[Lesonthewest]

That's a red card for me, straight down the side of his leg, above ankle height with zero chance of playing the ball, which had gone anyway. Dangerous play, red card.

[ravenrover]

It's a bit embarrassing just how bad the sound system is.
Honestly think it needs sorting properly.

The broken bulbs in the floodlights need sorting aswell.
Supposed to be a professional football club, not Sunday league.

The stadium will be going the way of glanford park is the don't spend some money on it.

You got a few spare 000's to throw in for the sound system then?
Read the report from the MTO re the floodlights and the tannoys, it's not a bloody nightclub

[i_ateallthepies]

It's a bit embarrassing just how bad the sound system is.
Honestly think it needs sorting properly.

The broken bulbs in the floodlights need sorting aswell.
Supposed to be a professional football club, not Sunday league.

The stadium will be going the way of glanford park is the don't spend some money on it.

Strange how everything about the club that you don't like is 'embarrassing'.

[Ldr]

It's a bit embarrassing just how bad the sound system is.
Honestly think it needs sorting properly.

The broken bulbs in the floodlights need sorting aswell.
Supposed to be a professional football club, not Sunday league.

The stadium will be going the way of glanford park is the don't spend some money on it.

Strange how everything about the club that you don't like is 'embarrassing'.

He’s just a serial whiner, no one takes his opinion seriously

[colincramb]

It's a bit embarrassing just how bad the sound system is.
Honestly think it needs sorting properly.

The broken bulbs in the floodlights need sorting aswell.
Supposed to be a professional football club, not Sunday league.

The stadium will be going the way of glanford park is the don't spend some money on it.

You got a few spare 000's to throw in for the sound system then?
Read the report from the MTO re the floodlights and the tannoys, it's not a bloody nightclub

Come on Gaz, it’s never a red card. It will probably be rescinded.

On another note. No idea what we’ve done with the PA system. No longer even audible in west stand. Whatever they have done has made it 100x worse

At Hull it was noticeable how good their PA system was.
It was like listening to your own sound system at home.
I know it probably cost considerably more than ours but my mate at the game commented on how it didn’t seem to be on full volume and that we were still able to speak to each other without shouting and still be able to hear what was being announced in the stadium.

Doesnt even sound as if its turned on in the West Stand totally impossible to understand and  hear. Whoever the sound Engineer trying to tweak it needs to come into the West on a normal matchday

They may as well not bother with it in the West Stand its that crap, is it like that in other stands?

I do wonder how they would mange to get an evacuate the Stadium message across if the need arises

I think it needs sorting but no idea how the club shells out 500k for a new one. They could find it through increasing season ticket prices but would people be happy with that? Raising season ticket prices by £50 makes about 250k if we sell 5000ish.

[TonySoprano]

It's a bit embarrassing just how bad the sound system is.
Honestly think it needs sorting properly.

The broken bulbs in the floodlights need sorting aswell.
Supposed to be a professional football club, not Sunday league.

The stadium will be going the way of glanford park is the don't spend some money on it.

You got a few spare 000's to throw in for the sound system then?
Read the report from the MTO re the floodlights and the tannoys, it's not a bloody nightclub

Yeah, I was there so I'm aware of what they said.
It's part of the liability in owning a football club I'm afraid. It needs sorting, and if TB has to get his cheque book out, so be it.

[ravenrover]

Great, spend otber peoples money

[vaya]

It's a bit embarrassing just how bad the sound system is.
Honestly think it needs sorting properly.

The broken bulbs in the floodlights need sorting aswell.
Supposed to be a professional football club, not Sunday league.

The stadium will be going the way of glanford park is the don't spend some money on it.

You got a few spare 000's to throw in for the sound system then?
Read the report from the MTO re the floodlights and the tannoys, it's not a bloody nightclub

Yeah, I was there so I'm aware of what they said.
It's part of the liability in owning a football club I'm afraid. It needs sorting, and if TB has to get his cheque book out, so be it.

Why didn't you say this to TB at the time then, instead of just posting about it afterwards?

[RoversInSpain]

Hilarious thread

One moment it’s definitely a red, next line  it’s crap lights. Then we move on to the sound system’s not as good as ‘ull

How are the chips these days?

Haven’t heard much about the toilets  recently or indeed if the seats are still dirty.

I assume the scoreboard is still knackered too?

Good to see it’s still Moansville Arizona in bleak old Yorkshire

Enjoy Saturday’s 3 points please,….. and save your sanity.

[monkeytennis]

Funnily enough the scoreboard was ok but broke on Saturday :-D

I do think if that happens though they should use the large screen for time/score for the whole game and stop the ads (or make them half the screen) Every time I looked around to check how long was left it was an ad showing.

[TonySoprano]

It's a bit embarrassing just how bad the sound system is.
Honestly think it needs sorting properly.

The broken bulbs in the floodlights need sorting aswell.
Supposed to be a professional football club, not Sunday league.

The stadium will be going the way of glanford park is the don't spend some money on it.

You got a few spare 000's to throw in for the sound system then?
Read the report from the MTO re the floodlights and the tannoys, it's not a bloody nightclub

Yeah, I was there so I'm aware of what they said.
It's part of the liability in owning a football club I'm afraid. It needs sorting, and if TB has to get his cheque book out, so be it.

Why didn't you say this to TB at the time then, instead of just posting about it afterwards?

Do you think he doesn't already know this ?

[vaya]

It's a bit embarrassing just how bad the sound system is.
Honestly think it needs sorting properly.

The broken bulbs in the floodlights need sorting aswell.
Supposed to be a professional football club, not Sunday league.

The stadium will be going the way of glanford park is the don't spend some money on it.

You got a few spare 000's to throw in for the sound system then?
Read the report from the MTO re the floodlights and the tannoys, it's not a bloody nightclub

Yeah, I was there so I'm aware of what they said.
It's part of the liability in owning a football club I'm afraid. It needs sorting, and if TB has to get his cheque book out, so be it.

Why didn't you say this to TB at the time then, instead of just posting about it afterwards?

Do you think he doesn't already know this ?

Nothing to stop you reiterating the point, especially as you've repeatedly labelled other people who just post things on internet forums rather than saying things in person as 'keyboard warriors'. Not a great look, which is why people don't take you seriously.

[TonySoprano]

It's a bit embarrassing just how bad the sound system is.
Honestly think it needs sorting properly.

The broken bulbs in the floodlights need sorting aswell.
Supposed to be a professional football club, not Sunday league.

The stadium will be going the way of glanford park is the don't spend some money on it.

You got a few spare 000's to throw in for the sound system then?
Read the report from the MTO re the floodlights and the tannoys, it's not a bloody nightclub

Yeah, I was there so I'm aware of what they said.
It's part of the liability in owning a football club I'm afraid. It needs sorting, and if TB has to get his cheque book out, so be it.

Why didn't you say this to TB at the time then, instead of just posting about it afterwards?

Do you think he doesn't already know this ?

Nothing to stop you reiterating the point, especially as you've repeatedly labelled other people who just post things on internet forums rather than saying things in person as 'keyboard warriors'. Not a great look, which is why people don't take you seriously.

I wouldn't insult TB's intelligence by saying the bleeding obvious to him.
You however seem to try and create meaning to your sad little life by attacking anyone who dares question something which isn't quite right about the club.

So what is it that I've said regarding the tannoy or floodlights that you don't like ?

[vaya]

It's a bit embarrassing just how bad the sound system is.
Honestly think it needs sorting properly.

The broken bulbs in the floodlights need sorting aswell.
Supposed to be a professional football club, not Sunday league.

The stadium will be going the way of glanford park is the don't spend some money on it.

You got a few spare 000's to throw in for the sound system then?
Read the report from the MTO re the floodlights and the tannoys, it's not a bloody nightclub

Yeah, I was there so I'm aware of what they said.
It's part of the liability in owning a football club I'm afraid. It needs sorting, and if TB has to get his cheque book out, so be it.

Why didn't you say this to TB at the time then, instead of just posting about it afterwards?

Do you think he doesn't already know this ?

Nothing to stop you reiterating the point, especially as you've repeatedly labelled other people who just post things on internet forums rather than saying things in person as 'keyboard warriors'. Not a great look, which is why people don't take you seriously.

I wouldn't insult TB's intelligence by saying the bleeding obvious to him.
You however seem to try and create meaning to your sad little life by attacking anyone who dares question something which isn't quite right about the club.

So what is it that I've said regarding the tannoy or floodlights that you don't like ?

As I said, don't take you seriously. Sorry and all that.

[rich1471]

When I first watched it I through never a red ,but looking back at it it's a clear red the ball was six foot away and if he had just walked up to another player and kicked them he would have been sent off and that's what he did

[In the box]

Come on Gaz, it’s never a red card. It will probably be rescinded.

On another note. No idea what we’ve done with the PA system. No longer even audible in west stand. Whatever they have done has made it 100x worse

The current stadium  PA system since has been in place since the stadium was build and to turn round say that it is NOW only just being looked at is just plain stupid . They saved £400k by buy a cheaper system ( understandable it’s a big saving ) but it would have been paid for by now if they’d address it 10 years ago . Investing in infrastructure that has benefits far beyond reading out a few birthday greetings or the team sheet each home game .

The club talks about the Matchday Experience but neglects to understand that this bain is just part of the weekly concerns . It’s taken over 10 years to sort out the catering and look at now ..it’s more expensive but satisfying and the long mindless queues have been addressed as well and very few complaints over all .

The pre-match atmosphere starts with the Sound we create and music the public address system is part of the atmosphere and complements the large screen advertising and announcements required at every home game , but this farce of playing around with tinpot which sounds like bean tin on a string , is just not adding to anything but frustration. This false  economy of under investment in the stadium is just typical of the old mentality that’s plagued the club since it moved to the new stadium. Players partitioning without dugouts anymore ,  is another , with only certain players sat on padded seats whilst the rest are sat in plastic stadium seating .
Aren’t players given any thought and their experience of a matchday . They are also subject to hearing nearby unwanted comments on occasion so very privacy to speak to each other without having to be over heard or reacting to engage with spectators comments , when they’d sooner focus on their part in protection of the dugout .
There is I’m sure a huge list no doubt of things that require sorting but cost money , yet the enlargement of the fan base starts and ends with the spectators impression felt and left with every home game .. let’s hope our cup run buys a better pa system and gets the club into the 21st century!!

[roversdude]

Whatever they’ve done with the test has completely destroyed the speakers in the ground on the West, sound perfect however in the concourse - putting them back to how they were will be like an upgrade lol

[Chris Black come back]

While the PA system isn't great and perhaps costs were cut when the stadium was built, it is worth remembering that we got an unbelievable deal both with getting the stadium built and then our later long term tenancy.

We got a modern, 15,000 seater stadium with a load of potential commercial revenue streams attached, for precisely zero pounds and zero pence. Even two decades ago this stadium cost in the region of £20 million to construct. We later got a 99 year lease at an inflation-linked £100k annual rent, which I would guess is roughly the annual salary of Jamie Sterry. Again, we paid zero pounds and zero pence for this deal.

If some of the PA set up wasn't great when it was originally built, it was a very small price to pay.

[turnbull for england]

A penalty off a play off final last year after best last third of a season most can remember, and sitting third currently. If only there were some hopes that things have changed