Charlie Crew

[sedwardsdrfc]

Don’t mind signing replacements. Be nice if they were better than what we have. That said it’s his 1st game so hopefully he does turn out way better.

[Ian Nimmo]

Thought the lad was brilliant today, he looks a really good footballer and looking forward to see how he progresses.

[Nudga]

Hurst too lightweight for division 4. Should have been doing triple sessions in the gym every week since the summer.

[Lesonthewest]

Thought he was really good today & starting to settle in, loads to come from him.

[Lesonthewest]

Hurst too lightweight for division 4. Should have been doing triple sessions in the gym every week since the summer.

Agreed. Lightweight & inconsistent, been here around 3 years now & hasn't really kicked on or cemented a place in the team, really like him as he's got bags of skill, just don't see it enough.

[scawsby steve]

Don’t mind signing replacements. Be nice if they were better than what we have. That said it’s his 1st game so hopefully he does turn out way better.

2nd game.

[DonnyOsmond]

Hurst is too lightweight for League Two, but Ennis and Crew aren't.

[dickos1]

Don’t mind signing replacements. Be nice if they were better than what we have. That said it’s his 1st game so hopefully he does turn out way better.

Who’s not better than who?

[Nudga]

Hurst is too lightweight for League Two, but Ennis and Crew aren't.

Don't know yet, they haven't been here three years have they.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Don’t mind signing replacements. Be nice if they were better than what we have. That said it’s his 1st game so hopefully he does turn out way better.

Who’s not better than who?

Sorry I was on about Ennis v Hurst. Ennis could prove to be better but on the first few glimpses there’s not much difference in quality.

If I’m honest I’ve not been a fan of loans since Moore destroyed the playing squad by relying so much on them to the detriment of a committed contracted group.

[sedwardsdrfc]

Hurst is too lightweight for League Two, but Ennis and Crew aren't.

Don't know yet, they haven't been here three years have they.

They are only here till the end of the season so in 3 years how lightweight they are won’t matter to us. We seem to give loan players leeway we’d never allow our own.

[DonnyOsmond]

I don't buy the lightweight thing. Hurst ghosts pasts players for fun on his day. Doesn't matter how much time you've spent in the gym, if a player has ability then he's probably good enough to play at this level.

[Ldr]

I don't buy the lightweight thing. Hurst ghosts pasts players for fun on his day. Doesn't matter how much time you've spent in the gym, if a player has ability then he's probably good enough to play at this level.

Trouble is it’s rarely his day

[Nudga]

I don't buy the lightweight thing. Hurst ghosts pasts players for fun on his day. Doesn't matter how much time you've spent in the gym, if a player has ability then he's probably good enough to play at this level.

Hurst looks fantastic ghosting past players that daren't put a challenge in around the penalty area.
Those that do challenge him, knock him off the ball at will.

[dickos1]

Don’t mind signing replacements. Be nice if they were better than what we have. That said it’s his 1st game so hopefully he does turn out way better.

Who’s not better than who?

Sorry I was on about Ennis v Hurst. Ennis could prove to be better but on the first few glimpses there’s not much difference in quality.

If I’m honest I’ve not been a fan of loans since Moore destroyed the playing squad by relying so much on them to the detriment of a committed contracted group.

Last year should surely have changed that opinion

[DearneValleyRover]

Looking a bit ominous for Hurst.

I’ve heard he’s going, not sure how true it is

[sedwardsdrfc]

Don’t mind signing replacements. Be nice if they were better than what we have. That said it’s his 1st game so hopefully he does turn out way better.

Who’s not better than who?

Sorry I was on about Ennis v Hurst. Ennis could prove to be better but on the first few glimpses there’s not much difference in quality.

If I’m honest I’ve not been a fan of loans since Moore destroyed the playing squad by relying so much on them to the detriment of a committed contracted group.

Last year should surely have changed that opinion

2nd half of last season was great, remember the 1st was very poor, and I’ll get behind anyone on the pitch regardless of been on loan but it hasn’t changed my opinion.

We got lucky that 3 turned out so well. I make it a 20% success rate on loans each season. For every Craig there’s about 4 Yeboah’s. And they limit chances for our own players the cost of which we can’t really calculate.

Look at it this way the club went on an unbelievable run and got to the playoffs without anything to show for it. Our best players in that run left for nothing and we start from scratch again. If they were contracted players we’d be going mad but they are loans so it’s normal. Our season relies too much on the loan players been up to it.

Loans aren’t a problem when we’re sort in a position, clearly we need centre midfielders, but to sign a winger when we have Hurst and Gibson, both of who GM offered contracts too, is strange

[Usher wide.]

Looking a bit ominous for Hurst.

I’ve heard he’s going, not sure how true it is

Who from? Next door neighbours aunty?

[DearneValleyRover]

Looking a bit ominous for Hurst.

I’ve heard he’s going, not sure how true it is

Who from? Next door neighbours aunty?

No, I leave that to you

[ncRover]

Looking a bit ominous for Hurst.

I’ve heard he’s going, not sure how true it is

Loan or permanent?

[Cramby10]

Well it’s scandalous if true. No one can tell me with a straight face that Clifton, Sbarra, and Gibson are better than him.
 For that matter same goes for Close and Westbrook who I believe are better than the above mentioned players and Broadbent and Kelly.
We’ve lost our way. We’re slow, ponderous and shot shy because we’re not good enough to move the ball quickly so take the easy option with a sideways or backward pass. And don’t get me started on the standard of crossing.
It’s morphing into a Schofield type side just with better players.
How have we got to this point? McCann was an all out attacking manager, yet here we are watching insipid attritional football devoid of much entertainment.

[Nudga]

Well it’s scandalous if true. No one can tell me with a straight face that Clifton, Sbarra, and Gibson are better than him.
 For that matter same goes for Close and Westbrook who I believe are better than the above mentioned players and Broadbent and Kelly.
We’ve lost our way. We’re slow, ponderous and shot shy because we’re not good enough to move the ball quickly so take the easy option with a sideways or backward pass. And don’t get me started on the standard of crossing.
It’s morphing into a Schofield type side just with better players.
How have we got to this point? McCann was an all out attacking manager, yet here we are watching insipid attritional football devoid of much entertainment.

I believe there is an over reliance on analysis and science.
It's made the game boring.

[DearneValleyRover]

Looking a bit ominous for Hurst.

I’ve heard he’s going, not sure how true it is

Loan or permanent?

No idea it’s just something I was told yesterday, the person who told me has been correct in the past which is why I put it on here

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Well it’s scandalous if true. No one can tell me with a straight face that Clifton, Sbarra, and Gibson are better than him.
 For that matter same goes for Close and Westbrook who I believe are better than the above mentioned players and Broadbent and Kelly.
We’ve lost our way. We’re slow, ponderous and shot shy because we’re not good enough to move the ball quickly so take the easy option with a sideways or backward pass. And don’t get me started on the standard of crossing.
It’s morphing into a Schofield type side just with better players.
How have we got to this point? McCann was an all out attacking manager, yet here we are watching insipid attritional football devoid of much entertainment.

I wouldn't go as far as saying it's scandalous. Disappointing yes, as we also have to consider...

1. The player might want to leave.(as in Miller, May and many others who need to breakaway to get more games)
2. Another club wants to take them on.
3. As  much as we like Hurst, he's one of a number who haven't done enough to command a starting spot week in week out. Whether that's purely down to them is another debate.   

Generally agree about the rest of your analysis.

[DonnyOsmond]

Well it’s scandalous if true. No one can tell me with a straight face that Clifton, Sbarra, and Gibson are better than him.
 For that matter same goes for Close and Westbrook who I believe are better than the above mentioned players and Broadbent and Kelly.
We’ve lost our way. We’re slow, ponderous and shot shy because we’re not good enough to move the ball quickly so take the easy option with a sideways or backward pass. And don’t get me started on the standard of crossing.
It’s morphing into a Schofield type side just with better players.
How have we got to this point? McCann was an all out attacking manager, yet here we are watching insipid attritional football devoid of much entertainment.

I believe there is an over reliance on analysis and science.
It's made the game boring.

Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford fans probably disagree.

[Nudga]

They've spent millions on players, not a good comparison. 

[BillyStubbsTears]

Well it’s scandalous if true. No one can tell me with a straight face that Clifton, Sbarra, and Gibson are better than him.
 For that matter same goes for Close and Westbrook who I believe are better than the above mentioned players and Broadbent and Kelly.
We’ve lost our way. We’re slow, ponderous and shot shy because we’re not good enough to move the ball quickly so take the easy option with a sideways or backward pass. And don’t get me started on the standard of crossing.
It’s morphing into a Schofield type side just with better players.
How have we got to this point? McCann was an all out attacking manager, yet here we are watching insipid attritional football devoid of much entertainment.

I believe there is an over reliance on analysis and science.
It's made the game boring.

Clubs do it because it works. Or, better to say, if you don't do it, you're at a serious disadvantage.

I've said before, I loved watching Penney's sides. But if you go back and watch the videos now, the quality of play was dreadful by today's standards. They gave the ball away so cheaply they'd get flayed alive playing like that today.

The world moves on...

[Nudga]

Why bring up DPs football from 20 odd years ago?
Not saying we shouldn't be using it all, I'm saying I think there's an over reliance on it.
And division 4 footballers cannot implement it like PL or Championship standard players can.

It's still boring to watch though. Not as much spontaneity in football anymore. 

[BillyStubbsTears]

Why bring up DPs football from 20 odd years ago?
Not saying we shouldn't be using it all, I'm saying I think there's an over reliance on it.
And division 4 footballers cannot implement it like PL or Championship standard players can.

It's still boring to watch though. Not as much spontaneity in football anymore. 

I brought it up because I loved watching it.

At the time.

It would be f**king awful today

[i_ateallthepies]

If you want to be entertained then watching a game of chess might not be the way to go. I think the end point with the over-reliance on data as the means of 'improving' will ultimately result in watching a game as entertaining as chess.