Charlie Crew

[ncRover]

If you want to be entertained then watching a game of chess might not be the way to go. I think the end point with the over-reliance on data as the means of 'improving' will ultimately result in watching a game as entertaining as chess.

Raw data on its own doesn’t tell you much at all, there’s a lot of context behind every measure.
I think it’s good for telling you how good a finisher someone is and how good they are at winning duels.
The rest depends on the style of play of the team they play for, how good that team is and whether player X is being utilised in the correct way.
A defender with great data for clearances probably plays for a team that sits back for example.
A midfielder who is good on the ball but plays for a direct team will have a lower pass completion percentage.

[sedwardsdrfc]

How much data crunching did we do 2nd half of last season? Looked to me like we had good players in a settled system and gave them license to attack the opposition.

The data stuff is important but there’s a thing where too much leads to reality blindness. I’m convinced it’s under instructions that we take an age to throw the ball into play. Great no turn overs I guess however we’ll never look like scoring or upsetting the opposition. In that situation you can stick your data where it don’t shine I know it’s better to get the ball in play quicker and get after teams. At least I’d rather watch that for all the difference in point it’d equal come end of season.

[DRFCSouth]

Regarding Hurst. We don't play to his strengths. Nor Molyneux's yesterday. Consistently pumping high balls up to him and expecting some kind of positive to come out of it.

[andysly]

There was a couple of times yesterday I saw a bit of Ian Snodin in Crew

[ravenrover]

The crunching tackle he won in the 2nd half definitely lifted things in the ground.

[BillyStubbsTears]

You reckon Liverpool don't use data?

They are one of the most scintillating teams to watch in the history of the game.

[Nudga]

World class players vs division 4 players.

No comparison.

[dickos1]

Well it’s scandalous if true. No one can tell me with a straight face that Clifton, Sbarra, and Gibson are better than him.
 For that matter same goes for Close and Westbrook who I believe are better than the above mentioned players and Broadbent and Kelly.
We’ve lost our way. We’re slow, ponderous and shot shy because we’re not good enough to move the ball quickly so take the easy option with a sideways or backward pass. And don’t get me started on the standard of crossing.
It’s morphing into a Schofield type side just with better players.
How have we got to this point? McCann was an all out attacking manager, yet here we are watching insipid attritional football devoid of much entertainment.

Whatever it is m it’s football that’s getting results, have a look at the table, that’s all that matters

[Cramby10]

I’m well aware of the table, brains. This is my opinion on a forum where people express opinions in a safe place without bellowing it from the stands. And my opinion is, is rotten to watch and we’re pushing our luck. It will only last so long.
 That ok? You only crawl out the woodwork when folk dare criticise what they see. Bore off.

[GazLaz]

You reckon Liverpool don't use data?

They are one of the most scintillating teams to watch in the history of the game.

Liverpool are the best run club in the country. Fully reliant on data.

[Lesonthewest]

There was a couple of times yesterday I saw a bit of Ian Snodin in Crew

Agreed, his 50/50 challenge reminded me of him at that very moment.

[Ian Nimmo]

What have all these posts about data to do with Charlie Crew?

[Pancho Regan]

There was a couple of times yesterday I saw a bit of Ian Snodin in Crew

That’s a good shout actually andysly.

I thought Crew looked exactly what he is yesterday - a talented young lad who has lots to learn.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

There was a couple of times yesterday I saw a bit of Ian Snodin in Crew

That’s a good shout actually andysly.

I thought Crew looked exactly what he is yesterday - a talented young lad who has lots to learn.

Definitely when he put that tackle in and came away with the ball shows he's not afraid to mix it. The comparisons to Ian are likely to grow.

If his learning curve is anything like game one to game two, then he's going to be a very good player.

[dickos1]

I’m well aware of the table, brains. This is my opinion on a forum where people express opinions in a safe place without bellowing it from the stands. And my opinion is, is rotten to watch and we’re pushing our luck. It will only last so long.
 That ok? You only crawl out the woodwork when folk dare criticise what they see. Bore off.

Folk like you have been saying it’ll only last so long for weeks now. If I only came out when people were being negative I’d be on here all the time with folk like you.
I’d take a miserable 1-0 win every week if that got us promoted, couldn’t care less about being entertained

[Cramby10]

What’s the point then you freak. You may as well sit at home and watch teletext!!

[Draytonian III]

There was a couple of times yesterday I saw a bit of Ian Snodin in Crew


Agreed

[ravenrover]

What’s the point then you freak. You may as well sit at home and watch teletext!!

Cramby you said yourself it's a forum for opinion, you put yours he put his  no need to get upset about it and start namecalling

[Cramby10]

That’s told me. Won’t sleep tonight

[dickos1]

What’s the point then you freak. You may as well sit at home and watch teletext!!

Freak!
What a strange old chap you are

[Reg of the Rovers]

It has been a strange first half of the season, we are picking up points and are currently 3rd, but teams around us winning games in hand would drop us down to 6th. We're also in 4th round of FA Cup which is another decent achievement.

But, we haven't really looked great at any point though. We smashed Grimsby off the park first half at their place then didn't bother turning up second half. And other than that I can't remember a performance where I thought 'wow, we are decent'.

Our season changed on the incomings in Jan last season, which boosted everyone's confidence (ours in the crowd included). Crew looks decent and if he improves as he has been over next couple of days could fill the Craig boots from last year.

It's the other loans that worry me. Ennis has looked completely lost, and didn't show much when he started on Saturday. Street looked blistering in the 30mins of his debut, but since then has been really anonymous. Add to that Moly isn't firing on all cylinders, creatively we're lacking. We're desperate for an Adulaken-type to make things happen. Can't see anyone in the team doing that at the moment.

We could kick on from here, but based on the performances at the moment, and the personnel we have, equally we could slide the other way if we stop getting the breaks we have been.

[scawsby steve]

It has been a strange first half of the season, we are picking up points and are currently 3rd, but teams around us winning games in hand would drop us down to 6th. We're also in 4th round of FA Cup which is another decent achievement.

But, we haven't really looked great at any point though. We smashed Grimsby off the park first half at their place then didn't bother turning up second half. And other than that I can't remember a performance where I thought 'wow, we are decent'.

Our season changed on the incomings in Jan last season, which boosted everyone's confidence (ours in the crowd included). Crew looks decent and if he improves as he has been over next couple of days could fill the Craig boots from last year.

It's the other loans that worry me. Ennis has looked completely lost, and didn't show much when he started on Saturday. Street looked blistering in the 30mins of his debut, but since then has been really anonymous. Add to that Moly isn't firing on all cylinders, creatively we're lacking. We're desperate for an Adulaken-type to make things happen. Can't see anyone in the team doing that at the moment.

We could kick on from here, but based on the performances at the moment, and the personnel we have, equally we could slide the other way if we stop getting the breaks we have been.

Good post, Reg. However, regarding your second paragraph, I thought we ripped Bradford and Fleetwood apart in those 2 away games, and could never understand GM making changes after each of those games.

[ForsolongaRover]

I’m well aware of the table, brains. This is my opinion on a forum where people express opinions in a safe place without bellowing it from the stands. And my opinion is, is rotten to watch and we’re pushing our luck. It will only last so long.
 That ok? You only crawl out the woodwork when folk dare criticise what they see. Bore off.

Folk like you have been saying it’ll only last so long for weeks now. If I only came out when people were being negative I’d be on here all the time with folk like you.
I’d take a miserable 1-0 win every week if that got us promoted, couldn’t care less about being entertained

You frequently draw our attention “the table” and the pleasure you derive from seeing Rovers at the top, but is not the prime subject of discussion on here football itself?

As for Liverpool Gaz, I don’t think they could be “fully” reliant on data. The new manager impresses me more than his predecessor and do not Salah etc., have flair?

[Lesonthewest]

That’s told me. Won’t sleep tonight

Had to laugh out loud at this, Dickos never churns out insults does he, oh the irony.

[GazLaz]

I’m well aware of the table, brains. This is my opinion on a forum where people express opinions in a safe place without bellowing it from the stands. And my opinion is, is rotten to watch and we’re pushing our luck. It will only last so long.
 That ok? You only crawl out the woodwork when folk dare criticise what they see. Bore off.

Folk like you have been saying it’ll only last so long for weeks now. If I only came out when people were being negative I’d be on here all the time with folk like you.
I’d take a miserable 1-0 win every week if that got us promoted, couldn’t care less about being entertained

You frequently draw our attention “the table” and the pleasure you derive from seeing Rovers at the top, but is not the prime subject of discussion on here football itself?

As for Liverpool Gaz, I don’t think they could be “fully” reliant on data. The new manager impresses me more than his predecessor and do not Salah etc., have flair?

How do you think they selected the new manager? Data.

[DonnyOsmond]

How does data = no flair?

[Reg of the Rovers]

How does data = no flair?

[Not Now Kato]

How does data = no flair?

 

 

[IDM]

Said it before and I’ll say it again..  data is great for where it is needed - managers, coaches, bookies perhaps.

For fans.?? Did we care what the data was when we went ahead vs Barrow last season for example.?

Or at Brentford, Wembley etc.??

[ncRover]

How does data = no flair?

Clearly no one has measured Josh Emmanuel’s ‘step overs per 90’.