Players going out

[steve@dcfd]

We could have 3/4 senior players going out on loan might have one today.

Don’t want sell in this window unless a ridiculous offer comes in the job is to get promoted out of this league.

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/grant-mccann-confirms-impending-doncaster-rovers-exit-as-he-delivers-contract-talks-update-4969754

[albie]

Yeboah has gone to Dunfirmline for the rest of the season, from Brizzle City.

[Yorkshire Lad]

I'm hearing Hurst on loan to Chesterfield.

[ncRover]

I'm hearing Hurst on loan to Chesterfield.

They’ve lost Markandy and Berry their star wingers so would make sense.
Could be a risk to us though in helping them out…

[Draytonian III]

If he does go there he won’t be allowed to play next week

[Bessie Red]

I'm hearing Hurst on loan to Chesterfield.

They’ve lost Markandy and Berry their star wingers so would make sense.
Could be a risk to us though in helping them out…

I would imagine that if he were to go to any league 2 club we are still to play then there would be a clause stating that he couldn't feature against us. Hopefully that would apply to any other players loaned to clubs we are left to play.

[Yorkshire Lad]

I'm hearing Hurst on loan to Chesterfield.

They’ve lost Markandy and Berry their star wingers so would make sense.
Could be a risk to us though in helping them out…

I would imagine that if he were to go to any league 2 club we are still to play then there would be a clause stating that he couldn't feature against us. Hopefully that would apply to any other players loaned to clubs we are left to play.

That would always be a condition in any loan deal.

[GazLaz]

Loaning a quality player to a side competing with us for promotion is a slightly odd one.

[Dutch Uncle]

Loaning a quality player to a side competing with us for promotion is a slightly odd one.

Yes, but an alternate view might be that if we see him as not good enough at the moment to get into our side on a regular basis, and he can't play against us, then he might not good enough to see Chesterfield make up the points they need to catch the group (10 points behind us with a game in hand), but might be good enough to help Chesterfield take some points from our rivals?

A bit convoluted I know      

[GazLaz]

Loaning a quality player to a side competing with us for promotion is a slightly odd one.

Yes, but an alternate view might be that if we see him as not good enough at the moment to get into our side on a regular basis, and he can't play against us, then he might not good enough to see Chesterfield make up the points they need to catch the group (10 points behind us with a game in hand), but might be good enough to help Chesterfield take some points from our rivals?

A bit convoluted I know      

The last part could be relevant about any L2 team.

I hope he goes there and does well, it’s a poor decision he’s not in our squad. Street and Ennis have looked a down grade on Gibson and Hurst to me. Game of opinions tho I suppose.

[Northants Nomad]

A game of opinions, indeed, GazLaz, and I, for one, have the opposite view. Gibson and Hurst are both decent players, but too fragile, one physically and one mentally.

[GazLaz]

A game of opinions, indeed, GazLaz, and I, for one, have the opposite view. Gibson and Hurst are both decent players, but too fragile, one physically and one mentally.

It’s not a thread about Gibson so my last point, the way he holds the ball up and allows us to get up the pitch is key to us. Our best performances have come when he’s played. He’s quality.

[Draytonian III]

A game of opinions, indeed, GazLaz, and I, for one, have the opposite view. Gibson and Hurst are both decent players, but too fragile, one physically and one mentally.

It’s not a thread about Gibson so my last point, the way he holds the ball up and allows us to get up the pitch is key to us. Our best performances have come when he’s played. He’s quality.

I don’t think that opinion will be widespread with a lot of others, on and off this forum

[Cramby10]

Such a shame. I’m well aware McCann knows miles better than me, but I can’t square it in my head that we are going to send away possibly 3 players, Hurst Close Westbrook, who are far and away better than some of the ones we currently have to endure in Sbarra, Clifton, Broadbent and Kelly.
Opinions eh.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

My first reaction is one of disappointment but when you think about it, we know consistency has been Kyle's problem.

For a player to go out, someone's got to want them.

Hursts highs might be better than Gibson or Street (too early to say about Ennis) but his lows might be seen as worse. If McCann thinks he can get a more consistent tune out of Ennis & Gibson then so be it.

Longer term, the move could be beneficial for Kyle, a different voice, different team, different expectations.

As Dutch says, he could be our secret agent working behind enemy lines.

[DearneValleyRover]

I'm hearing Hurst on loan to Chesterfield.

Be careful, when I said he was going out on loan last week I was told my neighbours Auntie had told me.

[DearneValleyRover]

Personally I think Hurst is better than Clifton and Sbarra for the number 10 role but he just hasn’t grabbed his chance. Shame because he’s got talent.

[GazLaz]

Personally I think Hurst is better than Clifton and Sbarra for the number 10 role but he just hasn’t grabbed his chance. Shame because he’s got talent.

He’s a developing player and we should be nurturing him.

[GazLaz]

A game of opinions, indeed, GazLaz, and I, for one, have the opposite view. Gibson and Hurst are both decent players, but too fragile, one physically and one mentally.

It’s not a thread about Gibson so my last point, the way he holds the ball up and allows us to get up the pitch is key to us. Our best performances have come when he’s played. He’s quality.

I don’t that opinion will be widespread with a lot of others, on and off this forum

What do they know!

[Dutch Uncle]

Loaning a quality player to a side competing with us for promotion is a slightly odd one.

Yes, but an alternate view might be that if we see him as not good enough at the moment to get into our side on a regular basis, and he can't play against us, then he might not good enough to see Chesterfield make up the points they need to catch the group (10 points behind us with a game in hand), but might be good enough to help Chesterfield take some points from our rivals?

A bit convoluted I know      

The last part could be relevant about any L2 team.

I hope he goes there and does well, it’s a poor decision he’s not in our squad. Street and Ennis have looked a down grade on Gibson and Hurst to me. Game of opinions tho I suppose.

Not disagreeing too much, except that I don't think it is a clear cut, no-brainer decision.

Hurst on his day is a great player (e.g.Bradford away) but has not yet showed consistency. He might play three or four brilliant games for Chesterfield, but not do much in the other games - and if the 3 or 4 games are against top teams all the better.

The little I have seen is that Street is not a like for like comparison with Gibson & Hurst - he is a player with a stronger physical presence and can play central or wide.

Ennis is younger than Hurst, looks promising from what I have seen, and there is the possibility he adapts well to the men's game and improves very quickly as the weeks go by. Craig did that last season.

Another aspect is that if Hurst plays regularly and does well for Chesterfield (or someone else), that is also good for us. I think he is OOC in the summer, but under 24 so I think we can get a fee if we make him an offer he turns down.

We need to trim. Hurst can be good, but this might be a good decision.

[drfchound]

I would like to see Kyle improve and become more consistent.
He has done well for us as an impact sub but doesn’t quite cut the mustard when he starts games.
Perhaps a run in the Chessie team might help him.
If it does he might come back to us as a better player and maybe kick on next season.
I don’t think he will be acting as a secret agent against us on Thursday either.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Personally I think Hurst is better than Clifton and Sbarra for the number 10 role but he just hasn’t grabbed his chance. Shame because he’s got talent.

He’s a developing player and we should be nurturing him.

Agree but the loan could be part of that process. I remember donkeys ago when Copps very nearly went out on loan to Rotherham but wind the clock forward a couple of years, that would have been unthinkable. (Although his loan to Forest was slightly different circumstances) but it made him a better player as he matured.

[selby]

  DBR, I don't think I have commented on any player going out on loan as I have no idea who we are willing to let out on loan.
  If any do I wish them well, and hope they progress their career either here in future or elsewhere.

[DearneValleyRover]

Personally I think Hurst is better than Clifton and Sbarra for the number 10 role but he just hasn’t grabbed his chance. Shame because he’s got talent.

He’s a developing player and we should be nurturing him.

Not something we do though is it, unfortunately

[DonnyBazR0ver]

  DBR, I don't think I have commented on any player going out on loan as I have no idea who we are willing to let out on loan.
  If any do I wish them well, and hope they progress their career either here in future or elsewhere.

Sorry, my bad, it was Dutch who commented. I've corrected it now.

[steve@dcfd]

If any of our players go to a league 2 club on loan and then produce more quality than they have shown for us then we could Question GMs decision making and mine really.
 But I have seen no improvement in the players suggested to force their way in to the first team and this is from last season. If Hurst is one then he couldn’t get in te first eleven in the final games last season and he’s no better this season. Westbrooke and Close were lucky to get a contract in the summer and both would not improve our midfield.

[andyst79]

A game of opinions, indeed, GazLaz, and I, for one, have the opposite view. Gibson and Hurst are both decent players, but too fragile, one physically and one mentally.

It’s not a thread about Gibson so my last point, the way he holds the ball up and allows us to get up the pitch is key to us. Our best performances have come when he’s played. He’s quality.

Gibsons been good the last couple of games when he's come on, you can tell he has quality just needs to find consistency. Could he do a job as a 10? As much as I admire Cliftons work rate and temperament I don't think he's a good enough footballer to play as a 10. Street looks a handful and offers us something different to what we have down both channels, fast , powerful & direct.

[5minstogo]

Chessie just signed a winger on loan from Brentford so hopefully the end of that one

[ForsolongaRover]

Is it not a reasonable assumption that he wants a loan away because he feels that will be beneficial for his own development?

Whereas his contribution fitted neatly into the team last season, personnel have changed and somehow he seems unable to function in the current set-up with the fluidity that we saw then.

[selby]

  Have they had offers from other clubs for anyone? Faulkner and Flint had choices and did the right thing and got out of there, are doing well, and attracting other clubs  watching them at their loan clubs.