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Ryaldinhio

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Re: Wellens
« Reply #30 on February 14, 2025, 07:33:28 pm by Ryaldinhio »
This club was on a downward spiral for years, thank the lord Blunt has gone and TB has taken full control, now we can look forward again. This is our second season challenging for promotion, hopefully this one will be a success.

TB has taken over, backed GM and things are changing.

I know look back on the Schofield time and feel for the fella. The state we were in, with no support there isn't anything that anyone could've done, we could have just ruined his future career.



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drfchound

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Re: Wellens
« Reply #31 on February 14, 2025, 08:37:18 pm by drfchound »
This club was on a downward spiral for years, thank the lord Blunt has gone and TB has taken full control, now we can look forward again. This is our second season challenging for promotion, hopefully this one will be a success.

TB has taken over, backed GM and things are changing.

I know look back on the Schofield time and feel for the fella. The state we were in, with no support there isn't anything that anyone could've done, we could have just ruined his future career.

I understand that DS is now doing well for himself and working as a coach in Australia.

Bentley Bullet

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Re: Wellens
« Reply #32 on February 14, 2025, 08:43:03 pm by Bentley Bullet »
It appears Gary McSheffrey got a bad deal also. He seemed reluctant to take the manager's job and appeared content and secure in his job with the juniors. 

Nudga

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Re: Wellens
« Reply #33 on February 14, 2025, 08:44:21 pm by Nudga »
This club was on a downward spiral for years, thank the lord Blunt has gone and TB has taken full control, now we can look forward again. This is our second season challenging for promotion, hopefully this one will be a success.

TB has taken over, backed GM and things are changing.

I know look back on the Schofield time and feel for the fella. The state we were in, with no support there isn't anything that anyone could've done, we could have just ruined his future career.

I had to keep quiet at the time as I know the family really well but Danny told his dad that he was working with Sunday league players and only had a budget for Sunday league players.
His dad kept telling me "Donny haven't got any f**kin money, they want him to make a silk purse out of a sows arsehole".

My criticism of DS would be that he should have played a style to suit the division and the players he had. Then if he'd had a bit longer in charge, slowly implement his own style.
I think he tried the championship style too quickly for the players he had

Pancho Regan

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Re: Wellens
« Reply #34 on February 14, 2025, 10:01:11 pm by Pancho Regan »
This club was on a downward spiral for years, thank the lord Blunt has gone and TB has taken full control, now we can look forward again. This is our second season challenging for promotion, hopefully this one will be a success.

TB has taken over, backed GM and things are changing.

I know look back on the Schofield time and feel for the fella. The state we were in, with no support there isn't anything that anyone could've done, we could have just ruined his future career.

I had to keep quiet at the time as I know the family really well but Danny told his dad that he was working with Sunday league players and only had a budget for Sunday league players.
His dad kept telling me "Donny haven't got any f**kin money, they want him to make a silk purse out of a sows arsehole".

My criticism of DS would be that he should have played a style to suit the division and the players he had. Then if he'd had a bit longer in charge, slowly implement his own style.
I think he tried the championship style too quickly for the players he had

Interesting insight Nudga

NickDRFC

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Re: Wellens
« Reply #35 on February 14, 2025, 10:19:43 pm by NickDRFC »
This club was on a downward spiral for years, thank the lord Blunt has gone and TB has taken full control, now we can look forward again. This is our second season challenging for promotion, hopefully this one will be a success.

TB has taken over, backed GM and things are changing.

I know look back on the Schofield time and feel for the fella. The state we were in, with no support there isn't anything that anyone could've done, we could have just ruined his future career.

I had to keep quiet at the time as I know the family really well but Danny told his dad that he was working with Sunday league players and only had a budget for Sunday league players.
His dad kept telling me "Donny haven't got any f**kin money, they want him to make a silk purse out of a sows arsehole".

My criticism of DS would be that he should have played a style to suit the division and the players he had. Then if he'd had a bit longer in charge, slowly implement his own style.
I think he tried the championship style too quickly for the players he had

The criticism Schofield got/gets on here is way over the top in my opinion but look at some of the players he had to work with. In his first game he had Knoyle, Williams, Anderson, Clayton, Close, Biggins, Miller & Molyneux in the side - all players proven at League Two level. Olowu, Taylor, Rowe, Maxwell & Hurst also in the squad he inherited. He definitely didn’t have the resources (or the time) that McCann has had to allow him to build a squad, and Knoyle was inadequately replaced in January (“look at this PowerPoint, James Brown is miles better!”) but an 18th placed finish was still a poor achievement for me.

Usher wide.

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Re: Wellens
« Reply #36 on February 14, 2025, 10:26:33 pm by Usher wide. »
This club was on a downward spiral for years, thank the lord Blunt has gone and TB has taken full control, now we can look forward again. This is our second season challenging for promotion, hopefully this one will be a success.

TB has taken over, backed GM and things are changing.

I know look back on the Schofield time and feel for the fella. The state we were in, with no support there isn't anything that anyone could've done, we could have just ruined his future career.

I had to keep quiet at the time as I know the family really well but Danny told his dad that he was working with Sunday league players and only had a budget for Sunday league players.
His dad kept telling me "Donny haven't got any f**kin money, they want him to make a silk purse out of a sows arsehole".

My criticism of DS would be that he should have played a style to suit the division and the players he had. Then if he'd had a bit longer in charge, slowly implement his own style.
I think he tried the championship style too quickly for the players he had

Interesting insight Nudga

Seems there’s always someone out there who can shine a better light on things after the fact.

Easy to say Nudga, but if I’d known what Danny Schofield was having to deal with at the time whilst taking flak from the supporters for ‘drawn on the back of a fag packet tactics’ & poor recruitment, I like to think that despite him & his family feeling you had misplaced their trust in you, I would like to think I would have found some way to shine a light on his dilemma on this forum.

I don’t think you ultimately did him any harm in not doing so because at that time the fans were ‘baying for blood’ but you didn’t do him any ‘favours’ either.

There’s a thin line between a perceived ‘betrayal of trust’ & a ‘light shone’ on a known truth.




Bentley Bullet

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Re: Wellens
« Reply #37 on February 14, 2025, 10:48:38 pm by Bentley Bullet »
This club was on a downward spiral for years, thank the lord Blunt has gone and TB has taken full control, now we can look forward again. This is our second season challenging for promotion, hopefully this one will be a success.

TB has taken over, backed GM and things are changing.

I know look back on the Schofield time and feel for the fella. The state we were in, with no support there isn't anything that anyone could've done, we could have just ruined his future career.

I had to keep quiet at the time as I know the family really well but Danny told his dad that he was working with Sunday league players and only had a budget for Sunday league players.
His dad kept telling me "Donny haven't got any f**kin money, they want him to make a silk purse out of a sows arsehole".

My criticism of DS would be that he should have played a style to suit the division and the players he had. Then if he'd had a bit longer in charge, slowly implement his own style.
I think he tried the championship style too quickly for the players he had

Interesting insight Nudga

Seems there’s always someone out there who can shine a better light on things after the fact.

Easy to say Nudga, but if I’d known what Danny Schofield was having to deal with at the time whilst taking flak from the supporters for ‘drawn on the back of a fag packet tactics’ & poor recruitment, I like to think that despite him & his family feeling you had misplaced their trust in you, I would like to think I would have found some way to shine a light on his dilemma on this forum.

I don’t think you ultimately did him any harm in not doing so because at that time the fans were ‘baying for blood’ but you didn’t do him any ‘favours’ either.

There’s a thin line between a perceived ‘betrayal of trust’ & a ‘light shone’ on a known truth.




I suspect most people knew the truth anyway.

Accepting it is another story.

BillyStubbsTears

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Re: Wellens
« Reply #38 on February 15, 2025, 12:54:43 am by BillyStubbsTears »
This club was on a downward spiral for years, thank the lord Blunt has gone and TB has taken full control, now we can look forward again. This is our second season challenging for promotion, hopefully this one will be a success.

TB has taken over, backed GM and things are changing.

I know look back on the Schofield time and feel for the fella. The state we were in, with no support there isn't anything that anyone could've done, we could have just ruined his future career.

I had to keep quiet at the time as I know the family really well but Danny told his dad that he was working with Sunday league players and only had a budget for Sunday league players.
His dad kept telling me "Donny haven't got any f**kin money, they want him to make a silk purse out of a sows arsehole".

My criticism of DS would be that he should have played a style to suit the division and the players he had. Then if he'd had a bit longer in charge, slowly implement his own style.
I think he tried the championship style too quickly for the players he had

The criticism Schofield got/gets on here is way over the top in my opinion but look at some of the players he had to work with. In his first game he had Knoyle, Williams, Anderson, Clayton, Close, Biggins, Miller & Molyneux in the side - all players proven at League Two level. Olowu, Taylor, Rowe, Maxwell & Hurst also in the squad he inherited. He definitely didn’t have the resources (or the time) that McCann has had to allow him to build a squad, and Knoyle was inadequately replaced in January (“look at this PowerPoint, James Brown is miles better!”) but an 18th placed finish was still a poor achievement for me.

He wouldn't have led us to 18th with anything like a fair run with injuries.

By early April, he had a choice between Goodman and a 30% match fit Agard up front. While having nowt but teenagers and a crocked Tommy Rowe to choose from at the back.

As for Wellens, I've made my point before. His arrogance turned a very difficult situation for us into a full blown disaster.

Bogle was shit, but he was the best striker we had. Playing Cukur, Dodoo and Hiwula for half a season instead of Bogle cost us our place in L1. Simple as that. f**king stupid management.

Nudga

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Re: Wellens
« Reply #39 on February 15, 2025, 06:46:55 am by Nudga »
This club was on a downward spiral for years, thank the lord Blunt has gone and TB has taken full control, now we can look forward again. This is our second season challenging for promotion, hopefully this one will be a success.

TB has taken over, backed GM and things are changing.

I know look back on the Schofield time and feel for the fella. The state we were in, with no support there isn't anything that anyone could've done, we could have just ruined his future career.

I had to keep quiet at the time as I know the family really well but Danny told his dad that he was working with Sunday league players and only had a budget for Sunday league players.
His dad kept telling me "Donny haven't got any f**kin money, they want him to make a silk purse out of a sows arsehole".

My criticism of DS would be that he should have played a style to suit the division and the players he had. Then if he'd had a bit longer in charge, slowly implement his own style.
I think he tried the championship style too quickly for the players he had

Interesting insight Nudga

Seems there’s always someone out there who can shine a better light on things after the fact.

Easy to say Nudga, but if I’d known what Danny Schofield was having to deal with at the time whilst taking flak from the supporters for ‘drawn on the back of a fag packet tactics’ & poor recruitment, I like to think that despite him & his family feeling you had misplaced their trust in you, I would like to think I would have found some way to shine a light on his dilemma on this forum.

I don’t think you ultimately did him any harm in not doing so because at that time the fans were ‘baying for blood’ but you didn’t do him any ‘favours’ either.

There’s a thin line between a perceived ‘betrayal of trust’ & a ‘light shone’ on a known truth.






If you'd have been on thr forum.at the time, you would have seen what I wrote without actually naming people.

 

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