Black bank flag

[drfchound]

Anyway, if we already have that big (and it looks very big) surfing flag then would it be possible to get it out pre match in our final home matches this season to help pump up the atmosphere pre match.

[graingrover]

The club does not have the staff to manage the flag in stadium nor after according to an email I have from Shaun asking is the club could provide safeguards .So it is up to those who made the appeal to safeguard it .

[DonnyBazR0ver]

The club does not have the staff to manage the flag in stadium nor after according to an email I have from Shaun asking is the club could provide safeguards .So it is up to those who made the appeal to safeguard it .

Maybe Donny Dog could guard it in his/her Kennel during the week?

[graingrover]

Finally on this from my side , I have asked Shaun if ( since it was an appeal on the official site ) whether the club could ask those who launched the appeal to give a feed back to explain how they intend to manage the flag in stadium and safeguard it between matches .Amen!

[Metalmicky]

No of course you don’t Martin! Allow me to speak plainer English then . This forum is representative of the club and collects subscriptions from us to help it do so. It has you and other people who represent the club either as Supporters club reps, Shadow Board reps, or Lady Supporters club reps. Then you have others, like myself who subscribe to every one of your representative entities.
Don’t treat us like also-rans! The fact that I put £150 quid into two surfer flags deserves a better response than the one you offered which was to intimate you did not understand what the problem is since one of the flags is where you know it to be!

TBF, I think SM has every right to tell you to...

[silent majority]

The appeal was made on the club’s offical website .You or another official representative of the fans could have said ..Hold on guys before you spend another £ 300O , I know where there is a surfer .
Do what Martin ?

Brian, the people who have arranged the new crowdfunder know there is a surfer flag already in the club. The club also know there is a surfer flag in the club. I wasn't consulted, (and why should I be) therefore what do you think I could add to this? Its not for me to tell a section of the supporter base not to raise money for another flag.

I repeat, all I did was point out that it doesn’t make any sense to me.

[Nudga]

Both flags in south stand would look ace.

[EasyforDennis]

Surely if we have a surfer flag at the ground why havent we seen it at every game? It seems pretty pointless raising thousands of pounds for flags which remain locked away for home games?

[Pancho Regan]

Surely if we have a surfer flag at the ground why havent we seen it at every game? It seems pretty pointless raising thousands of pounds for flags which remain locked away for home games?

Or even worse, raising thousands of pounds for flags which are never even produced.

[Usher wide.]

Having given my tenpenneth & having read other posters on this subject AND being told there is a ‘perfectly good’ flag/banners currently being stored at the stadium ready for use, I am more inclined to buy bitcoin than contribute ‘yet again’ to ‘yet another’ flag.

I put literally hundreds of pounds (this season over£1k) into my club without having someone looking to ‘con me’ out of more.

USE THE BLOODY FLAG ‘WE’ HAVE!

[Pancho Regan]

Having given my tenpenneth & having read other posters on this subject AND being told there is a ‘perfectly good’ flag/banners currently being stored at the stadium ready for use, I am more inclined to buy bitcoin than contribute ‘yet again’ to ‘yet another’ flag.

I put literally hundreds of pounds (this season over£1k) into my club without having someone looking to ‘con me’ out of more.

USE THE BLOODY FLAG ‘WE’ HAVE!

Like you Usher (albeit not on your scale - well done!), I'm always willing to jump in and contribute to these types of initiatives, but the recollection of what happened with last year's flag fundraiser made me hesitate this time.

I'm still hoping that DonnyBB will come on here and give a reassuring explanation as to what happened with last year's appeal.

[roversdude]

I feel complicit now for pushing it …..sorry

[silent majority]

Surely if we have a surfer flag at the ground why havent we seen it at every game? It seems pretty pointless raising thousands of pounds for flags which remain locked away for home games?

Essentially its because it can be quite a time consuming exercise. To start with you need about 6-8 people who have to be there at a certain time. Preparing the flag, surfing, collecting again, and putting it away takes time. You probably miss kick-off as well because it'll take more than ten minutes to put it away.

Apathy takes over eventually.

[Pancho Regan]

I feel complicit now for pushing it …..sorry

Absolutely no need for you to apologise roversdude.
I'd have done exactly the same if I hadn't had the niggling concern about what happened last year.

[EasyforDennis]

Surely if we have a surfer flag at the ground why havent we seen it at every game? It seems pretty pointless raising thousands of pounds for flags which remain locked away for home games?

Essentially its because it can be quite a time consuming exercise. To start with you need about 6-8 people who have to be there at a certain time. Preparing the flag, surfing, collecting again, and putting it away takes time. You probably miss kick-off as well because it'll take more than ten minutes to put it away.

Apathy takes over eventually.

So all a bit pointless then eh? 

[Chris Black come back]

He’s hardly saying that. The evidence shows after the sugar rush of getting a new flag, nobody can be bothered with it on a Tuesday night game against Morecambe. It then gathers dust and everyone forgets until the next crowdfunder for another flag.

[adamtherover]

Has anyone still got links to the collection site where donations were made last year? There might be evidence of the funds being withdrawn, if this is the case, it puts the motives  behind the campaign into question?

[Pancho Regan]

Yes, it's here adam:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/new-drfc-surfer-for-the-fans-by-the-fans?utm_campaign=p_cp+fundraiser-sidebar&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer

[adamtherover]

It says donations protected, so can you ask for your money back? It's a strange one for sure...

[Nudga]

Usually, if the target hasn't been met, the money gets automatically refunded.

[Filo]

The lack of response from the organisers tells its own story really

[Pancho Regan]

The lack of response from the organisers tells its own story really

Exactly my thoughts Filo.

No response from anyone involved in last year’s appeal.
Where did the £1040 go?

[graingrover]

If we are talking about the SAME flag then I can help .The first flag I donated eas organised by a guy who uses this forum on
y occasionally but usually communicates through X.com .He stated on what was then twitter thst his car had been stolen and as an aside mentioned the FLAG was in his boot .
I agree that all donations should go through one or the other official channels of the club or it’s supporters which would add a safeguard of honesty and accountability .As it is some folk will never contribute again .

[Nudga]

I can confirm Matty did have his car nicked, that was September last year
I cannot confirm whether the flag was in the boot though but Matty is a good guy and I'd have no reason to doubt him.

[Usher wide.]

I can confirm Matty did have his car nicked, that was September last year
I cannot confirm whether the flag was in the boot though but Matty is a good guy and I'd have no reason to doubt him.

It appears Matthew suspended all donations when the fund reached £1040.

Perhaps he’d like to tell the forum what happened to that money?

Similarly, the ‘new banner’ donations passed £3030 & the deadline for donations to THAT project deadlined on the 28th also organised by Marty & The Black Bank (?). Any update on that one Matthew (Matty) ?

[Usher wide.]

I can confirm Matty did have his car nicked, that was September last year
I cannot confirm whether the flag was in the boot though but Matty is a good guy and I'd have no reason to doubt him.

It appears Matthew suspended all donations when the fund reached £1040.

Perhaps he’d like to tell the forum what happened to that money?

Similarly, the ‘new banner’ donations passed £3030 & the deadline for donations to THAT project deadlined on the 28th also organised by Marty & The Black Bank (?). Any update on that one Matthew (Matty) ?

I’ll take that as a no.

[Spilsby Red]

If there is an issue and I donated then shouldn’t the police be informed as this could be fraudulent. If there was a reply from the ones who started this then ok, but there isn’t. Surely the club should be informed, with the concerns.
Just putting it out there. Hopefully they are sorting the flag as we speak but the silence doesn’t sound good

[graingrover]

I am sure Matty was not. at all a party to this latest flag appeal and I see no reason whatsoever to criticise him for the loss of the previous one either .This latest flag was. advertised on DROS so should be totally genuine also .

[rich1471]

Don't know if the flag will be made or not as I don't know anyone who is involved in it , If it's not made and is a scam most people will think I just lost a tenner but when it's done to 300 people a few will be unhappy and want answers

[roversdude]

I’ve e mailed and asked for an update