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Padge_DRFC

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #30 on April 03, 2025, 08:33:53 pm by Padge_DRFC »
Wood has looked terrible. Anderson much better. Massive losing Oluwu having been so good



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drfchound

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #31 on April 03, 2025, 08:59:12 pm by drfchound »
I had Anderson down as being good against Walsall too, IMO better than Woody on the night.
TBF, the Walsall front two were a handful, particularly in the first half hour.

scawsby steve

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #32 on April 03, 2025, 09:02:30 pm by scawsby steve »
I'd like to see Sbarra dropped and Kelly brought in to start the game.
If McGrath is fit I'd put him in and drop Woody.
Surely Anderson would be the one to drop out after he got bullied against Walsall?

Interesting view on Anderson.

He won 17 of 21 aerial challenges.
He won 5 of 5 grind duels
Made 14 clearances
82% pass accuracy.

He was the best centre half of the 5 on the pitch on Tuesday.
Strange how people see games different, I thought Wood was by far the better of the 2 CBs & Anderson was given a torrid time by their big lad up front.

You're right that people see games different, Albert. However, GazLaz is a professional statistician, and his stats aren't opinionated, they're facts.

les@donr

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #33 on April 04, 2025, 01:07:27 am by les@donr »
Recently lost to Morecambe. Their fans think that their defence won’t be able to handle Street and Sharp. Hope they are right and we can get a hat full of goals, do our GD the power of good.

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #34 on April 04, 2025, 08:30:55 am by LincsRover »
Recently lost to Morecambe. Their fans think that their defence won’t be able to handle Street and Sharp. Hope they are right and we can get a hat full of goals, do our GD the power of good.

Whilst I agree entirely with what you say, I’d be more than happy with a scrappy 1-0 - the win is everything in this game!  :boxing:

Reg of the Rovers

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #35 on April 04, 2025, 08:40:40 am by Reg of the Rovers »
Recently lost to Morecambe. Their fans think that their defence won’t be able to handle Street and Sharp. Hope they are right and we can get a hat full of goals, do our GD the power of good.
Unfortunately it won’t be Street and Sharp though Les, it’ll be Street with Sbarra doing the headless chicken, with Sharp getting last 20 for Street, which is why we won’t get a hat full. If this isn’t a game for two strikers then I don’t know what is.

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #36 on April 04, 2025, 11:03:57 am by Scooter »
Is there any street parking near Cheltenham’s ground?

philsky

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #37 on April 04, 2025, 11:08:06 am by philsky »
Is there any street parking near Cheltenham’s ground?

Good question

IDM

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #38 on April 04, 2025, 11:15:44 am by IDM »
It’s been years since I’ve been, but if I recall there used to be a park and ride at the racecourse?

Spud

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #39 on April 04, 2025, 12:39:08 pm by Spud »
Is there any street parking near Cheltenham’s ground?

Seems to be resident permit only from what I've seen, a few car parks in town, 15 minute walk.

andy didcott

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #40 on April 04, 2025, 02:11:17 pm by andy didcott »
Don’t forget like I did,1230 kick off.

donnyguy

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #41 on April 04, 2025, 02:22:18 pm by donnyguy »
James Maxwell, Jay McGrath and Joe Ironside all in contention.Only player missing tomorrow is Olowu

drfchound

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #42 on April 04, 2025, 04:37:52 pm by drfchound »
Those three back in the squad should make a big difference to the quality of players we have on the pitch.

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #43 on April 04, 2025, 07:27:30 pm by Herman Hessian »
Interesting view on Anderson.

He won 17 of 21 aerial challenges.
He won 5 of 5 grind duels
Made 14 clearances
82% pass accuracy.

He was the best centre half of the 5 on the pitch on Tuesday.

ok - i'm very old - but I get XG, and pass percentage and a great many other things of a similar nature - but a "grind duel"- seriously - what the actual fûck ????

selby

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #44 on April 04, 2025, 07:36:47 pm by selby »
Out of interest Gaz, how did wood compare?

ForsolongaRover

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #45 on April 04, 2025, 08:19:51 pm by ForsolongaRover »
Thought Wood was culpable for both goals tbh

The second yes, when he allowed lad to muscle him out. The first, both he and Senior should have been able to smother the cross but also Sterry lost the race to clear the cross. Prior to that, did Gibson do enough when losing possession and tracking back? Harsh to blame it solely on Wood.

I'm truly prejudiced against Senior I know, but how can you credit a modern full back that doesn’t seem to tackle and rarely passes the ball forward. I do not define "smother" as raising a boot in the general direction of the ball a few yards away from him. Maybe I'm unreasonably critical and if there are examples of more positive defensive contributions please enlighten me.

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #46 on April 04, 2025, 08:38:06 pm by ncRover »
Thought Wood was culpable for both goals tbh

The second yes, when he allowed lad to muscle him out. The first, both he and Senior should have been able to smother the cross but also Sterry lost the race to clear the cross. Prior to that, did Gibson do enough when losing possession and tracking back? Harsh to blame it solely on Wood.

I'm truly prejudiced against Senior I know, but how can you credit a modern full back that doesn’t seem to tackle and rarely passes the ball forward. I do not define "smother" as raising a boot in the general direction of the ball a few yards away from him. Maybe I'm unreasonably critical and if there are examples of more positive defensive contributions please enlighten me.

He does put tackles in. And wins his fair share of duels and headers.

The stats show he does more than Sterry and Maxwell with regards to those things.
Obviously  not as good as them going forwards but your post is wrong on defending.

Nudga

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #47 on April 05, 2025, 07:20:47 am by Nudga »
Can anyone point me in the right direction of a decent streaming site to watch the game on

les@donr

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #48 on April 05, 2025, 07:36:49 am by les@donr »
I thought it was on Sky?

Nudga

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #49 on April 05, 2025, 07:46:27 am by Nudga »
I thought it was on Sky?

I don't have it.

drfchound

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #50 on April 05, 2025, 09:04:08 am by drfchound »
Can anyone point me in the right direction of a decent streaming site to watch the game on

I have watched two or three matches on sport365.stream this year after it was recommended on here by SouthEastRover.
Open the site then click on “soccer” then the matches are listed in time of kick off order.  There might be more than one option but i picked the one with the most stars (usually five I think).
It was sometimes tricky for me to get a commentary but with a bit of fiddling about I always got there.
I found it easier to get commentary if I watched on my PC.
Give it a try early and click on a random match to get the hang of it.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2025, 10:28:31 am by drfchound »

Nudga

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #51 on April 05, 2025, 09:29:13 am by Nudga »
That's the one cheers Graham.

rover-n-out

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« Reply #52 on April 05, 2025, 09:42:56 am by rover-n-out »
I've checked on that streaming site you recommended Hound and the game is showing as available to watch foc. I'm in Tenerife at the moment, so I'll give that a whirl and see if I can get it working nearer the time. Thank you for the recommendation. COYR!!

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #53 on April 05, 2025, 10:31:33 am by i_ateallthepies »
Thought Wood was culpable for both goals tbh

The second yes, when he allowed lad to muscle him out. The first, both he and Senior should have been able to smother the cross but also Sterry lost the race to clear the cross. Prior to that, did Gibson do enough when losing possession and tracking back? Harsh to blame it solely on Wood.

I'm truly prejudiced against Senior I know, but how can you credit a modern full back that doesn’t seem to tackle and rarely passes the ball forward. I do not define "smother" as raising a boot in the general direction of the ball a few yards away from him. Maybe I'm unreasonably critical and if there are examples of more positive defensive contributions please enlighten me.

He does put tackles in. And wins his fair share of duels and headers.

The stats show he does more than Sterry and Maxwell with regards to those things.
Obviously  not as good as them going forwards but your post is wrong on defending.

nc, I'll admit Senior is a trier but he certainly is not a left back (left back in the dressing room would be more apt, imo).  Looking back to the Carlisle game the two great saves that TSL had to make first half were both the result of the same player making a monkey out of Senior, the first he cut inside and got his shot off and the second he left him for dead on the outside and got another fierce shot off that had to be saved.  Senior didn't get near him.

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #54 on April 05, 2025, 11:43:01 am by GazLaz »
Thought Wood was culpable for both goals tbh

The second yes, when he allowed lad to muscle him out. The first, both he and Senior should have been able to smother the cross but also Sterry lost the race to clear the cross. Prior to that, did Gibson do enough when losing possession and tracking back? Harsh to blame it solely on Wood.

I'm truly prejudiced against Senior I know, but how can you credit a modern full back that doesn’t seem to tackle and rarely passes the ball forward. I do not define "smother" as raising a boot in the general direction of the ball a few yards away from him. Maybe I'm unreasonably critical and if there are examples of more positive defensive contributions please enlighten me.

He does put tackles in. And wins his fair share of duels and headers.

The stats show he does more than Sterry and Maxwell with regards to those things.
Obviously  not as good as them going forwards but your post is wrong on defending.

nc, I'll admit Senior is a trier but he certainly is not a left back (left back in the dressing room would be more apt, imo).  Looking back to the Carlisle game the two great saves that TSL had to make first half were both the result of the same player making a monkey out of Senior, the first he cut inside and got his shot off and the second he left him for dead on the outside and got another fierce shot off that had to be saved.  Senior didn't get near him.

I think Senior is a centre half but the fact he’s small means he can’t really play in a 2. Fills a hole at LB but for me he’s not a natural there, however much he’s played there in the past.

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #55 on April 05, 2025, 11:45:58 am by NigelJ »
Interesting view on Anderson.

He won 17 of 21 aerial challenges.
He won 5 of 5 grind duels
Made 14 clearances
82% pass accuracy.

He was the best centre half of the 5 on the pitch on Tuesday.

ok - i'm very old - but I get XG, and pass percentage and a great many other things of a similar nature - but a "grind duel"- seriously - what the actual fûck ????
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Interesting view on Anderson.

He won 17 of 21 aerial challenges.
He won 5 of 5 grind duels
Made 14 clearances
82% pass accuracy.

He was the best centre half of the 5 on the pitch on Tuesday.

ok - i'm very old - but I get XG, and pass percentage and a great many other things of a similar nature - but a "grind duel"- seriously - what the actual fûck ????
If Anderson is playing with Wood, he ought to be able to grind quite well!

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #56 on April 05, 2025, 11:52:22 am by Cramby10 »
Looks like we’ve 11 competent footballers on the pitch today. That makes a refreshing change. Would’ve preferred Street to Sharp but we can’t have everything.

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #57 on April 05, 2025, 12:14:47 pm by DonnyBazR0ver »
I think you're both being very harsh on Senior. It's hard these days for full backs. As we know, many goals are scored from crosses but does that mean full backs are generally weak?  I saw a stat earlier this week when rating the top 10 full backs in L2 (Sterry 9) and those with the best blocks/tackles only had success rate of around 40%.

Once a player has you squared up, it's very difficult to stop the cross or shot. In days of old you could mark more tightly by means fair or foul and get away with alot more than they can now so we see full backs standing off more often and at best trying to guide players where they don't want to go.

Senior has a natural bite to his game and over time, hopefully he'll control that better and work om his attacking side but he's got alot of the physical attributes you need.

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« Reply #58 on April 05, 2025, 12:16:48 pm by andy didcott »
I take it it’s not on ifollow today.

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Re: Let's talk about the Cheltenham game
« Reply #59 on April 05, 2025, 12:19:44 pm by Barmby Rover »
Kelly in for Sbarra, a good sub, he always seems very positive about going forward. More likely to feed Street for goals first half.

 

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