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Donnywolf

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Potential decent Ref alert ...
« on April 14, 2025, 05:40:38 pm by Donnywolf »
Elliot Bell


Wow. Refereed us once v Barnsley in Virtu Cup and no comments at all. Apparantly he is making ( or taking ) huge steps in the EFL pyramid and elsewhere


Has done 3 Championship Games 11 League One Games and 8 League 2 games AND in March he did 5 games in Japans Second Tier


He's 26 and so should keep up better than the likes of the puffing panting 40 odds we've endured so far


One thing I did like if I read it right is that he likes dishing out the Cards BUT it looked like he likes to give Second Yellows out , exactly as it should be !


Contrast that to Hair on Saturday with their 26 , on a Yellow already he chopped our bloke down , stopped a promising move , and Hair was reaching for a deserved Yellow as he ran towards Mr 26 and " totally bottled it "


Looking forward to seeing Mr Bell although I might regret being his poster boy I suppose
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ravenrover

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Re: Potential decent Ref alert ...
« Reply #1 on April 14, 2025, 07:03:19 pm by ravenrover »
I just hope he doesn't finish the game as an "End"

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Re: Potential decent Ref alert ...
« Reply #2 on April 15, 2025, 08:33:01 pm by Chris Black come back »
Dishing out a lot of cards. Mainly to Salford.

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Re: Potential decent Ref alert ...
« Reply #3 on April 15, 2025, 08:38:07 pm by idler »
How come we played 7 minutes injury time when a minimum of 4?

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Re: Potential decent Ref alert ...
« Reply #4 on April 15, 2025, 08:40:58 pm by LincsRover »
Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!!  :headbang:

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« Reply #5 on April 15, 2025, 08:43:23 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!!  :headbang:

You mean the one on Moly or have I missed one? The one on Mols was never a red.

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« Reply #6 on April 15, 2025, 08:48:18 pm by LincsRover »
Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!!  :headbang:

You mean the one on Moly or have I missed one? The one on Mols was never a red.

Yeah the one on moly, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one - imho a red card all day long

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« Reply #7 on April 15, 2025, 09:03:54 pm by NickDRFC »
Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!!  :headbang:

You mean the one on Moly or have I missed one? The one on Mols was never a red.

Yeah the one on moly, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one - imho a red card all day long

Would like to see it again but I’m sure it was nowhere near knee high.

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« Reply #8 on April 15, 2025, 10:05:02 pm by Rovers91 »
Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!!  :headbang:

You mean the one on Moly or have I missed one? The one on Mols was never a red.

Yeah the one on moly, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one - imho a red card all day long

Never a red in a million years, it's a contact sport.

Ryaldinhio

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« Reply #9 on April 15, 2025, 10:09:19 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.

Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.

Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.

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« Reply #10 on April 15, 2025, 10:16:13 pm by PDX_Rover »
Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.

Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.

Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.
foul by their black player with the bleached hair. He was having a right go at the ref. He then got right in the 4th officials face as they came off for half times.

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« Reply #11 on April 15, 2025, 10:20:27 pm by Donnywolf »
Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.

Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.

Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.

Well their over the top biased Commentator said Tilt was not looking at their Keeper , we was running to get back in position

However TSL caught the ball cleanly and Tilt knew a long ball was coming and took him out with a British Bulldog barge

Or if under 50 a barge. Completely deserved a yellow

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« Reply #12 on April 15, 2025, 10:28:02 pm by Donnywolf »
Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!!  :headbang:

You mean the one on Moly or have I missed one? The one on Mols was never a red.

Yeah the one on moly, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one - imho a red card all day long

And I have to agree with you as well

OK Ref gets one look but that was a straight Red all day long. Late and potential ankle or leg breaker

Ref wasn't bad but not as good as I expected apart from not being afraid on chalking off goal for home Team

He also proved that if a player like Tilt is on a Yellow and reoffends he will follow with a second Yellow and he did

Ryaldinhio

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« Reply #13 on April 15, 2025, 10:33:18 pm by Ryaldinhio »
Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.

Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.

Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.

Well their over the top biased Commentator said Tilt was not looking at their Keeper , we was running to get back in position

However TSL caught the ball cleanly and Tilt knew a long ball was coming and took him out with a British Bulldog barge

Or if under 50 a barge. Completely deserved a yellow

I don't really disagree with it being a yellow, like I said just a bit OTT for a second yellow that's all. Maybe I'm a bit old school. It didn't change the game, wasn't stopping a goal 10 seconds before the end etc.....yellow by the book but not worthy of a 1 game ban in the real world.

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« Reply #14 on April 15, 2025, 11:21:09 pm by roversdude »
Sorry Wolfie thought the ref was very poor how could he penalise street when Tilt had hold of him and threw him to the floor …several times

Donnywolf

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« Reply #15 on April 16, 2025, 06:59:45 am by Donnywolf »
Probably happened during a break in transmission.

I endured the Salford commentary , the most biased available who noticed ever yard stolen by one Team and none by the other

They saw nothing wrong with their Goal on HT but Rovers one was deffo a foul and Street and his various assailants was " 6 of one"

I take your point though and have him 2 on Rate the Ref as he wasn't as good as I expected

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« Reply #16 on April 16, 2025, 07:50:15 am by drfchound »
Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.

Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.

Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.

Well their over the top biased Commentator said Tilt was not looking at their Keeper , we was running to get back in position

However TSL caught the ball cleanly and Tilt knew a long ball was coming and took him out with a British Bulldog barge

Or if under 50 a barge. Completely deserved a yellow

I don't really disagree with it being a yellow, like I said just a bit OTT for a second yellow that's all. Maybe I'm a bit old school. It didn't change the game, wasn't stopping a goal 10 seconds before the end etc.....yellow by the book but not worthy of a 1 game ban in the real world.

The times when refs don’t show a second yellow if it would result in a red card show a weakness in their character.
Any offence that warrants a yellow should receive one.
There was an instance in the Wimbledon game last weekend when one of their players (already booked) made a bad foul and should have been booked.
The ref ran over and was pulling the yellow card out but didn’t because he realised that it would have been a sending off and I guess he thought it would have been unfair to reduce Wimbledon to nine players on the pitch.
A total bottling job by the ref and one that might have impacted on us winning the game.
Yes, the one by Tilt was very late in the game but who knows whether or not a quick clearance by TSL would have given us a chance to score on the break when Salford had so many players committed forward.
It was a cynical foul by Tilt and he knew the risk of doing it.
Too many times we see refs not issuing a second booking to a player simply because they have already had a yellow card.

roversdude

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Re: Potential decent Ref alert ...
« Reply #17 on April 16, 2025, 07:57:03 am by roversdude »
Unless it’s for moving the ball an inch ala Jordan Gibson

drfchound

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« Reply #18 on April 16, 2025, 08:03:05 am by drfchound »
Unless it’s for moving the ball an inch ala Jordan Gibson

Gibson was really stupid in that moment.
He had been warned two or three times and yet continued to move the ball forward.
What difference would it have made?
He was taking a big risk and let the team down as much as Billy did last weekend.

roversdude

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« Reply #19 on April 16, 2025, 08:04:57 am by roversdude »
Totally agree but I think if the ref realised he’d booked him he would have let him off which is wrong

Jimmydee

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« Reply #20 on April 16, 2025, 08:05:24 am by Jimmydee »
Did anyone notice the stepping over the line from the long throw ins from the bleached haired thrower?  The assistant referee wasn’t doing his job properly.

drfchound

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« Reply #21 on April 16, 2025, 08:08:47 am by drfchound »
Did anyone notice the stepping over the line from the long throw ins from the bleached haired thrower?  The assistant referee wasn’t doing his job properly.

Yes, I did.
It happens a lot and I can’t recall one instance of a foul throw being called.
The long throwers also have one foot off the ground when releasing the ball on a regular basis.

NickDRFC

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« Reply #22 on April 16, 2025, 08:55:50 am by NickDRFC »
We often complain about ground being stolen with throw ins but we were guilty of that a lot last night. There was one right in front of the 4th official where he told Bailey to stay where he was (about 10 yards into our half) and he ended up throwing in from their half.

drfchound

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« Reply #23 on April 16, 2025, 08:57:49 am by drfchound »
It happens all the time doesn’t it.
Maybe a solution would be to award the throw to the other team if a player still steals ground after being told not to.

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« Reply #24 on April 16, 2025, 09:05:39 am by donnievic »
Not sure why their goal in 45th+min was disallowed.

Also thought the second yellow in the 95th min was a bit OTT, but brought my bet in.

Overall I think that was probably best ref I've seen this year.
definelty holding then push by Stockton on TSL,as for a 2nd yellow for tilt he stopped TSL from releasing the ball quickly to stop a attacking move so mandatory yellow whether it’s soft or not,not seen no replays of harbours challenge but looking at it as it happened looked sumwhere in between yes looks like he won the ball,studs possibly showing????think if not won’t he ball it would of been red although that shouldn’t make a difference these days
 On a whole don’t think the ref was that bad overall but Anderson hasn’t really touched their guy for our disallowed goal either looking at replays

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« Reply #25 on April 16, 2025, 09:29:05 am by Ian Nimmo »
I don’t agree with all who are saying the foul on mols was just a yellow. For me there seems to me clear intent that garbutt was going to take moly out, so a clear red for me.
He’s taken a lot of hefty challenges this season, and we have to credit him for always looking to carry on, unfortunately he gets little protection from these poor refs in L2.

There were other poor decisions by the ref including the so called push by Anderson.

Also did anyone notice maxwell being pushed in the back by Karl Robinson, yes stop a player getting close, but order of order to push him. Surprised he didn’t get a red for the way he acted all through the game



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« Reply #26 on April 16, 2025, 09:47:16 am by donnievic »
Did anyone notice the stepping over the line from the long throw ins from the bleached haired thrower?  The assistant referee wasn’t doing his job properly.
what do you actually mean when saying stepping over the line??I was there so can’t say noticed the throws from behind the goal

Jimmydee

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« Reply #27 on April 16, 2025, 09:47:49 am by Jimmydee »
The radio Sheffield  microphone picked up a few savoury swear words from Robinson.

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« Reply #28 on April 16, 2025, 09:54:12 am by donnievic »
The radio Sheffield  microphone picked up a few savoury swear words from Robinson.
never known him to be any differant when ever he faces us,absolute bell end

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« Reply #29 on April 16, 2025, 10:03:48 am by Usher wide. »
Bottled the knee high, studs up challenge by Garbutt, giving him a yellow - red all day - then guess who scores!!  :headbang:

You mean the one on Moly or have I missed one? The one on Mols was never a red.

Yeah the one on moly, we’ll have to agree to disagree on that one - imho a red card all day long

Never a red in a million years, it's a contact sport.

Try telling that to the ref who disallowed Rob Street’s header because Tom put his hand on a defender’s shoulder who then dropped to the ground as if he’d been tasered when he saw the ball going into the net.

 

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