Luke Molyneux

[Usher wide.]

What is peoples perspective of value for Molyneux now?

£1.25 million.

I’ve added the £.25 on because of your poor grammar.

[Barmby Rover]

A couple of hundred thousand, who would want him at the moment? Did well at Lg.2 level, failing at Lg.1 level. He needs to work harder to get where he wants to be.

[drfcsteve]

I’m glad we kept him, doesn’t look like he’ll be a world beater at league 1 level but can’t fault his effort. He’ll improve when the team are in better form.

I do think the club probably wishes they took that half a million that was allegedly on offer for McGrath though.

[Ian Nimmo]

Luke will come good, he’s had a few poor games by his standard, not helped by the fact that the whole team have not performed recently.
I have no doubt in his ability to perform in L1.
Just needs to get his head in the right place and a couple of goals will improve his current confidence to get him back on track.

[drfchound]

Luke will regain his form.
Good players don’t become bad ones in the short time that he has been struggling.

[Thorney]

Luke has scored some of the best goals we have seen over the last couple of years.

But seem hesitant to take those shits from distance on lately.  Hope someone gets hold of him and tells him to start taking those efforts again.

That goal against accrington on the opening day last season was one of the best strikes of a ball i have ever seen at any level.

[Monkcaster_Rover]

Luke has scored some of the best goals we have seen over the last couple of years.

But seem hesitant to take those shits from distance on lately.  Hope someone gets hold of him and tells him to start taking those efforts again.

That goal against accrington on the opening day last season was one of the best strikes of a ball i have ever seen at any level.

Aye. He should try shitting in the box a bit more.

[roversdude]

Messi

[Chris Black come back]

Dunga.

[Thorney]

Luke has scored some of the best goals we have seen over the last couple of years.

But seem hesitant to take those shits from distance on lately.  Hope someone gets hold of him and tells him to start taking those efforts again.

That goal against accrington on the opening day last season was one of the best strikes of a ball i have ever seen at any level.

Aye. He should try shitting in the box a bit more.

 

[vaya]

Messi

Kaka

[NickDRFC]

Poo’d Gullit

[Reg of the Rovers]

Wayne Pooney

[Nudga]

Often seen in Aargrah with Burnt Haas.

[5minstogo]

Lee Carsey

[drfchound]

Chris Brown

[Usher wide.]

Less of the sh*T take & focus more on those on this forum who with regards to Moly are surely taking the p**s!

Posts like ‘what price now for Molyneaux?’.

Why? Because he’s not near double figures yet in goals or assists? Oh how these posters love to kick a man (our man, our player) when he’s yet to reach the dizzy heights of last season.

I could offer up many reasons why Luke has not yet reached the game after game of near ‘perfection’ he reached last season & none of it would be to do with the ‘step up in class’ of Lg1 from Lg2.

The same detractors told us that in January of ‘23, Joe Ironside would ‘not score more than 10 league goals from open play that season’.
That Sterry would not make it ‘mentally’ as a professional footballer, let alone in Lg2.

False pretenders I call these posters (the one who called both these ‘predictions out’ knows who he is, I won’t sully this post by ‘calling him out’), posters who ‘hide behind’ stats as justification for their posts.

I like to think I know a footballer when I see one regardless of xg’s.

Luke Molyneaux is a heck of a player who regardless of what one certain poster believes, the majority of Lg1 clubs would snap your hand off to have a player of his capabilities, who has at the age of 27 is just starting to come into his prime, be in their starting XI.

[BillyStubbsTears]

Luke has scored some of the best goals we have seen over the last couple of years.

But seem hesitant to take those shits from distance on lately.  Hope someone gets hold of him and tells him to start taking those efforts again.

That goal against accrington on the opening day last season was one of the best strikes of a ball i have ever seen at any level.

Aye. He should try shitting in the box a bit more.

He needs to get back to doing his business.

[Goldthorperover]

Steve Logrizovic

[GazLaz]

Less of the sh*T take & focus more on those on this forum who with regards to Moly are surely taking the p**s!

Posts like ‘what price now for Molyneaux?’.

Why? Because he’s not near double figures yet in goals or assists? Oh how these posters love to kick a man (our man, our player) when he’s yet to reach the dizzy heights of last season.

I could offer up many reasons why Luke has not yet reached the game after game of near ‘perfection’ he reached last season & none of it would be to do with the ‘step up in class’ of Lg1 from Lg2.

The same detractors told us that in January of ‘23, Joe Ironside would ‘not score more than 10 league goals from open play that season’.
That Jason Sterry would not make it ‘mentally’ as a professional footballer, let alone in Lg2.

False pretenders I call these posters (the one who called both these ‘predictions out’ knows who he is, I won’t sully this post by ‘calling him out’), posters who ‘hide behind’ stats as justification for their posts.

I like to think I know a footballer when I see one regardless of xg’s.

Luke Molyneaux is a heck of a player who regardless of what one certain poster believes, the majority of Lg1 clubs would snap your hand off to have a player of his capabilities, who has at the age of 27 is just starting to come into his prime, be in their starting XI.

I think you mean January 2024, but numbers aren’t your thing are they. Since then he’s scored 11 goals in about 80 matches. Think you could say my point overarching point stands there.

Plenty of evidence to say that my view about Mols not being the million + pound world beater and likely to struggle in L1, is correct.

[NickDRFC]

Joe Doodoo

[Reg of the Rovers]

Bruce Dyer-rhoea

[Ho]

Less of the sh*T take & focus more on those on this forum who with regards to Moly are surely taking the p**s!

Posts like ‘what price now for Molyneaux?’.

Why? Because he’s not near double figures yet in goals or assists? Oh how these posters love to kick a man (our man, our player) when he’s yet to reach the dizzy heights of last season.

I could offer up many reasons why Luke has not yet reached the game after game of near ‘perfection’ he reached last season & none of it would be to do with the ‘step up in class’ of Lg1 from Lg2.

The same detractors told us that in January of ‘23, Joe Ironside would ‘not score more than 10 league goals from open play that season’.
That Jason Sterry would not make it ‘mentally’ as a professional footballer, let alone in Lg2.

False pretenders I call these posters (the one who called both these ‘predictions out’ knows who he is, I won’t sully this post by ‘calling him out’), posters who ‘hide behind’ stats as justification for their posts.

I like to think I know a footballer when I see one regardless of xg’s.

Luke Molyneaux is a heck of a player who regardless of what one certain poster believes, the majority of Lg1 clubs would snap your hand off to have a player of his capabilities, who has at the age of 27 is just starting to come into his prime, be in their starting XI.

I think you mean January 2024, but numbers aren’t your thing are they. Since then he’s scored 11 goals in about 80 matches. Think you could say my point overarching point stands there.

Plenty of evidence to say that my view about Mols not being the million + pound world beater and likely to struggle in L1, is correct.

I don’t see why people get so triggered about this.  There’s levels and levels in football and eventually players hit their ceiling.  That doesn’t mean we support/love them any less.

If people can identify a player’s ceiling ahead of them hitting it, then surely that’s a good thing.  Wouldn’t we want the club to capitalise on their point of maximum value?

The other thing here, how many million+ pound (or the equivalent value for their era) players have we sold on over the years?  There are schools of thought out there that we have several on our books currently e.g. Luke, “the next Whiteman”, “the next Matt Mills”.  That might end up being the case, but how likely do we think this is?

[GazLaz]

Less of the sh*T take & focus more on those on this forum who with regards to Moly are surely taking the p**s!

Posts like ‘what price now for Molyneaux?’.

Why? Because he’s not near double figures yet in goals or assists? Oh how these posters love to kick a man (our man, our player) when he’s yet to reach the dizzy heights of last season.

I could offer up many reasons why Luke has not yet reached the game after game of near ‘perfection’ he reached last season & none of it would be to do with the ‘step up in class’ of Lg1 from Lg2.

The same detractors told us that in January of ‘23, Joe Ironside would ‘not score more than 10 league goals from open play that season’.
That Jason Sterry would not make it ‘mentally’ as a professional footballer, let alone in Lg2.

False pretenders I call these posters (the one who called both these ‘predictions out’ knows who he is, I won’t sully this post by ‘calling him out’), posters who ‘hide behind’ stats as justification for their posts.

I like to think I know a footballer when I see one regardless of xg’s.

Luke Molyneaux is a heck of a player who regardless of what one certain poster believes, the majority of Lg1 clubs would snap your hand off to have a player of his capabilities, who has at the age of 27 is just starting to come into his prime, be in their starting XI.

I think you mean January 2024, but numbers aren’t your thing are they. Since then he’s scored 11 goals in about 80 matches. Think you could say my point overarching point stands there.

Plenty of evidence to say that my view about Mols not being the million + pound world beater and likely to struggle in L1, is correct.

I don’t see why people get so triggered about this.  There’s levels and levels in football and eventually players hit their ceiling.  That doesn’t mean we support/love them any less.

If people can identify a player’s ceiling ahead of them hitting it, then surely that’s a good thing.  Wouldn’t we want the club to capitalise on their point of maximum value?

The other thing here, how many million+ pound (or the equivalent value for their era) players have we sold on over the years?  There are schools of thought out there that we have several on our books currently e.g. Luke, “the next Whiteman”, “the next Matt Mills”.  That might end up being the case, but how likely do we think this is?

In my head, you apply a value to a player. If someone offers you more that that value selling them becomes an option. We get too sentimental towards our players (and I’m talking as a club as much as fans). They are all replaceable. We need to think like a trading business when it comes to players. Recruit, develop, sell. We do the first two bits quite well. Players leaving is like a taboo subject. 

[Ho]

Less of the sh*T take & focus more on those on this forum who with regards to Moly are surely taking the p**s!

Posts like ‘what price now for Molyneaux?’.

Why? Because he’s not near double figures yet in goals or assists? Oh how these posters love to kick a man (our man, our player) when he’s yet to reach the dizzy heights of last season.

I could offer up many reasons why Luke has not yet reached the game after game of near ‘perfection’ he reached last season & none of it would be to do with the ‘step up in class’ of Lg1 from Lg2.

The same detractors told us that in January of ‘23, Joe Ironside would ‘not score more than 10 league goals from open play that season’.
That Jason Sterry would not make it ‘mentally’ as a professional footballer, let alone in Lg2.

False pretenders I call these posters (the one who called both these ‘predictions out’ knows who he is, I won’t sully this post by ‘calling him out’), posters who ‘hide behind’ stats as justification for their posts.

I like to think I know a footballer when I see one regardless of xg’s.

Luke Molyneaux is a heck of a player who regardless of what one certain poster believes, the majority of Lg1 clubs would snap your hand off to have a player of his capabilities, who has at the age of 27 is just starting to come into his prime, be in their starting XI.

I think you mean January 2024, but numbers aren’t your thing are they. Since then he’s scored 11 goals in about 80 matches. Think you could say my point overarching point stands there.

Plenty of evidence to say that my view about Mols not being the million + pound world beater and likely to struggle in L1, is correct.

I don’t see why people get so triggered about this.  There’s levels and levels in football and eventually players hit their ceiling.  That doesn’t mean we support/love them any less.

If people can identify a player’s ceiling ahead of them hitting it, then surely that’s a good thing.  Wouldn’t we want the club to capitalise on their point of maximum value?

The other thing here, how many million+ pound (or the equivalent value for their era) players have we sold on over the years?  There are schools of thought out there that we have several on our books currently e.g. Luke, “the next Whiteman”, “the next Matt Mills”.  That might end up being the case, but how likely do we think this is?

In my head, you apply a value to a player. If someone offers you more that that value selling them becomes an option. We get too sentimental towards our players (and I’m talking as a club as much as fans). They are all replaceable. We need to think like a trading business when it comes to players. Recruit, develop, sell. We do the first two bits quite well. Players leaving is like a taboo subject.

Agreed, although that does assume there's some science/objectivity in the valuation of course!

[Janso]

Less of the sh*T take & focus more on those on this forum who with regards to Moly are surely taking the p**s!

Posts like ‘what price now for Molyneaux?’.

Why? Because he’s not near double figures yet in goals or assists? Oh how these posters love to kick a man (our man, our player) when he’s yet to reach the dizzy heights of last season.

I could offer up many reasons why Luke has not yet reached the game after game of near ‘perfection’ he reached last season & none of it would be to do with the ‘step up in class’ of Lg1 from Lg2.

The same detractors told us that in January of ‘23, Joe Ironside would ‘not score more than 10 league goals from open play that season’.
That Jason Sterry would not make it ‘mentally’ as a professional footballer, let alone in Lg2.

False pretenders I call these posters (the one who called both these ‘predictions out’ knows who he is, I won’t sully this post by ‘calling him out’), posters who ‘hide behind’ stats as justification for their posts.

I like to think I know a footballer when I see one regardless of xg’s.

Luke Molyneaux is a heck of a player who regardless of what one certain poster believes, the majority of Lg1 clubs would snap your hand off to have a player of his capabilities, who has at the age of 27 is just starting to come into his prime, be in their starting XI.

I think you mean January 2024, but numbers aren’t your thing are they. Since then he’s scored 11 goals in about 80 matches. Think you could say my point overarching point stands there.

Plenty of evidence to say that my view about Mols not being the million + pound world beater and likely to struggle in L1, is correct.

I don’t see why people get so triggered about this.  There’s levels and levels in football and eventually players hit their ceiling.  That doesn’t mean we support/love them any less.

If people can identify a player’s ceiling ahead of them hitting it, then surely that’s a good thing.  Wouldn’t we want the club to capitalise on their point of maximum value?

The other thing here, how many million+ pound (or the equivalent value for their era) players have we sold on over the years?  There are schools of thought out there that we have several on our books currently e.g. Luke, “the next Whiteman”, “the next Matt Mills”.  That might end up being the case, but how likely do we think this is?

In my head, you apply a value to a player. If someone offers you more that that value selling them becomes an option. We get too sentimental towards our players (and I’m talking as a club as much as fans). They are all replaceable. We need to think like a trading business when it comes to players. Recruit, develop, sell. We do the first two bits quite well. Players leaving is like a taboo subject.

It gets me when people talk about wanting to follow the "Barnsley model" of selling players they've developed but when it comes to actually selling them they cry about it and whine about how the club has no ambition.

[GazLaz]

Less of the sh*T take & focus more on those on this forum who with regards to Moly are surely taking the p**s!

Posts like ‘what price now for Molyneaux?’.

Why? Because he’s not near double figures yet in goals or assists? Oh how these posters love to kick a man (our man, our player) when he’s yet to reach the dizzy heights of last season.

I could offer up many reasons why Luke has not yet reached the game after game of near ‘perfection’ he reached last season & none of it would be to do with the ‘step up in class’ of Lg1 from Lg2.

The same detractors told us that in January of ‘23, Joe Ironside would ‘not score more than 10 league goals from open play that season’.
That Jason Sterry would not make it ‘mentally’ as a professional footballer, let alone in Lg2.

False pretenders I call these posters (the one who called both these ‘predictions out’ knows who he is, I won’t sully this post by ‘calling him out’), posters who ‘hide behind’ stats as justification for their posts.

I like to think I know a footballer when I see one regardless of xg’s.

Luke Molyneaux is a heck of a player who regardless of what one certain poster believes, the majority of Lg1 clubs would snap your hand off to have a player of his capabilities, who has at the age of 27 is just starting to come into his prime, be in their starting XI.

I think you mean January 2024, but numbers aren’t your thing are they. Since then he’s scored 11 goals in about 80 matches. Think you could say my point overarching point stands there.

Plenty of evidence to say that my view about Mols not being the million + pound world beater and likely to struggle in L1, is correct.

I don’t see why people get so triggered about this.  There’s levels and levels in football and eventually players hit their ceiling.  That doesn’t mean we support/love them any less.

If people can identify a player’s ceiling ahead of them hitting it, then surely that’s a good thing.  Wouldn’t we want the club to capitalise on their point of maximum value?

The other thing here, how many million+ pound (or the equivalent value for their era) players have we sold on over the years?  There are schools of thought out there that we have several on our books currently e.g. Luke, “the next Whiteman”, “the next Matt Mills”.  That might end up being the case, but how likely do we think this is?

In my head, you apply a value to a player. If someone offers you more that that value selling them becomes an option. We get too sentimental towards our players (and I’m talking as a club as much as fans). They are all replaceable. We need to think like a trading business when it comes to players. Recruit, develop, sell. We do the first two bits quite well. Players leaving is like a taboo subject.

Agreed, although that does assume there's some science/objectivity in the valuation of course!

What people are prepared to pay is subjective. You can calculate pretty accurately work out what a players value is to a team though. Then look at their age and how their skill set translates to higher levels / cost of replacement etc. You can get pretty close on a true valuation these days, if you know what you are doing.


Our issue is that managers don’t care about the long term. If a player is doing well they want them in the team now, they don’t want to grow organically. They won’t be here to feel the benefit of it.

[vaya]

Less of the sh*T take & focus more on those on this forum who with regards to Moly are surely taking the p**s!

Posts like ‘what price now for Molyneaux?’.

Why? Because he’s not near double figures yet in goals or assists? Oh how these posters love to kick a man (our man, our player) when he’s yet to reach the dizzy heights of last season.

I could offer up many reasons why Luke has not yet reached the game after game of near ‘perfection’ he reached last season & none of it would be to do with the ‘step up in class’ of Lg1 from Lg2.

The same detractors told us that in January of ‘23, Joe Ironside would ‘not score more than 10 league goals from open play that season’.
That Jason Sterry would not make it ‘mentally’ as a professional footballer, let alone in Lg2.

False pretenders I call these posters (the one who called both these ‘predictions out’ knows who he is, I won’t sully this post by ‘calling him out’), posters who ‘hide behind’ stats as justification for their posts.

I like to think I know a footballer when I see one regardless of xg’s.

Luke Molyneaux is a heck of a player who regardless of what one certain poster believes, the majority of Lg1 clubs would snap your hand off to have a player of his capabilities, who has at the age of 27 is just starting to come into his prime, be in their starting XI.

I think you mean January 2024, but numbers aren’t your thing are they. Since then he’s scored 11 goals in about 80 matches. Think you could say my point overarching point stands there.

Plenty of evidence to say that my view about Mols not being the million + pound world beater and likely to struggle in L1, is correct.

I don’t see why people get so triggered about this.  There’s levels and levels in football and eventually players hit their ceiling.  That doesn’t mean we support/love them any less.

If people can identify a player’s ceiling ahead of them hitting it, then surely that’s a good thing.  Wouldn’t we want the club to capitalise on their point of maximum value?

The other thing here, how many million+ pound (or the equivalent value for their era) players have we sold on over the years?  There are schools of thought out there that we have several on our books currently e.g. Luke, “the next Whiteman”, “the next Matt Mills”.  That might end up being the case, but how likely do we think this is?

In my head, you apply a value to a player. If someone offers you more that that value selling them becomes an option. We get too sentimental towards our players (and I’m talking as a club as much as fans). They are all replaceable. We need to think like a trading business when it comes to players. Recruit, develop, sell. We do the first two bits quite well. Players leaving is like a taboo subject.

It gets me when people talk about wanting to follow the "Barnsley model" of selling players they've developed but when it comes to actually selling them they cry about it and whine about how the club has no ambition.

Player 'A' joins - invariably apparently appalling and the cheap option

Player 'A' leaves - seemingly a massive mistake and shouldn't be sold/should be retained at all costs.

[Chris Black come back]

It’s probably made worse by the unbelievable generosity of Terry. There is no driver to have commercial discipline by monetising talent. We continue to operate like something between a charity and a philanthropic organisation, rather than a business. We continue to be terrible at monetising talent. One day Terry won’t be around with his huge wallet and we are nowhere near ready for that day.

[GazLaz]

It’s probably made worse by the unbelievable generosity of Terry. There is no driver to have commercial discipline by monetising talent. We continue to operate like something between a charity and a philanthropic organisation, rather than a business. We continue to be terrible at monetising talent. One day Terry won’t be around with his huge wallet and we are nowhere near ready for that day.

It’s is an interesting point because we are great at generating revenue in other areas of Club Doncaster.