Faulkner??

[steve@dcfd]

No decision as yet but final decision should be made before the end of the week according to Free Press one way or the other.
If he can get a better contract elsewhere with guarantee of first team football then good luck to him.

[Alan Southstand]

Selby’s the one to know about this one!

He could be away on his holidays, currently, of course. Either way a decision will be made soon enough.

[johnny rovers]

If I was him, I'd leave. Although I do know from several sources close to him, he wants to stay.....but the contract he has been offered is pathetic. Almost national living wage.

It should send alarms bells out through the academy!

[graingrover]

I don’t hear alarm bells emanating from any of Grant’s decisions ! One of the first comments Htant made in public two years ago was that he thought  a comment he had made to Bobby had hit the lad hard ! It was when he told Bobby he did not fancy him in a heading duel with Ironside who could jump much higher than him . It is little incidents that can set a relationship on a track and I don't think BF and GM are hand in glove on attitudinal issues .I hope I am wrong because having a second Donny lad in the squad would be good .

[Monkcaster_Rover]

I don’t hear alarm bells emanating from any of Grant’s decisions ! One of the first comments Htant made in public two years ago was that he thought  a comment he had made to Bobby had hit the lad hard ! It was when he told Bobby he did not fancy him in a heading duel with Ironside who could jump much higher than him . It is little incidents that can set a relationship on a track and I don't think BF and GM are hand in glove on attitudinal issues .I hope I am wrong because having a second Donny lad in the squad would be good .

I can’t recall the quote in its entirety but I’m sure Bobby said Joe wouldn’t be able to get off the ground once he’d put an elbow into his ribs, which Grant appreciated!

[jmt23]

Grant gets in the heads of players and wants to see a spark, a reaction, prove I’m wrong attitude from them. I imagine if they don’t show such a reaction they don’t last.

What is Bobby F worth is a difficult one to asses. As someone who’s only seen a small handful of games within the first team, and out on a few loans to non league, he was never ( to the layman) going to get top dollar. If he does sign it is for him to force the clubs hand to improve terms and he can only do that through playing - a tricky situation for the lad, and I suppose the club.

[RoversInSpain]

If I was him, I'd leave. Although I do know from several sources close to him, he wants to stay.....but the contract he has been offered is pathetic. Almost national living wage.

It should send alarms bells out through the academy!

So what’s Faulkner going to do then stay or go?
Give us a heads up, cheers

[johnny rovers]

If I was him, I'd leave. Although I do know from several sources close to him, he wants to stay.....but the contract he has been offered is pathetic. Almost national living wage.

It should send alarms bells out through the academy!

So what’s Faulkner going to do then stay or go?
Give us a heads up, cheers

I'm not his conscience! We await the outcome!

[Filo]

If I was him, I'd leave. Although I do know from several sources close to him, he wants to stay.....but the contract he has been offered is pathetic. Almost national living wage.

It should send alarms bells out through the academy!

So what’s Faulkner going to do then stay or go?
Give us a heads up, cheers

It’s telling that the poster that champions BF has failed to make a comment on this thread

[Sammy Chung was King]

It would do no harm to retain him and loan him out again, to get more experience. Or show confidence in him and start him as a back up to whichever centre backs he signs. Who knows with opportunities he could prove good enough, but we definitely need tried and tested experienced centre backs for that league. We have lost a lot of know how with those who have left.

[drfchound]

If I was him, I'd leave. Although I do know from several sources close to him, he wants to stay.....but the contract he has been offered is pathetic. Almost national living wage.

It should send alarms bells out through the academy!

So what’s Faulkner going to do then stay or go?
Give us a heads up, cheers

It’s telling that the poster that champions BF has failed to make a comment on this thread

What is it telling us?
Maybe selby doesn’t want to say anything which might spoil things for Bobby.

[KingKendrick]

If I was him, I'd leave. Although I do know from several sources close to him, he wants to stay.....but the contract he has been offered is pathetic. Almost national living wage.

It should send alarms bells out through the academy!

Has he done enough to earn more than that? 20 year old lad taking home 25k a year to play football? I’d imagine any new contract with be incentivised with appearance fee’s etc

[johnny rovers]

If I was him, I'd leave. Although I do know from several sources close to him, he wants to stay.....but the contract he has been offered is pathetic. Almost national living wage.

It should send alarms bells out through the academy!

Has he done enough to earn more than that? 20 year old lad taking home 25k a year to play football? I’d imagine any new contract with be incentivised with appearance fee’s etc

Taking home!!! Not even "top of the note"

And no point imagining any incentives........they aren't even on the table!!

[Nudga]

Apprentice wage then?

[KingKendrick]

If I was him, I'd leave. Although I do know from several sources close to him, he wants to stay.....but the contract he has been offered is pathetic. Almost national living wage.

It should send alarms bells out through the academy!

Has he done enough to earn more than that? 20 year old lad taking home 25k a year to play football? I’d imagine any new contract with be incentivised with appearance fee’s etc

Taking home!!! Not even "top of the note"

And no point imagining any incentives........they aren't even on the table!!

I find it very hard to believe there would be no appearance fee

[johnny rovers]

If I was him, I'd leave. Although I do know from several sources close to him, he wants to stay.....but the contract he has been offered is pathetic. Almost national living wage.

It should send alarms bells out through the academy!

Has he done enough to earn more than that? 20 year old lad taking home 25k a year to play football? I’d imagine any new contract with be incentivised with appearance fee’s etc

Taking home!!! Not even "top of the note"

And no point imagining any incentives........they aren't even on the table!!

I find it very hard to believe there would be no appearance fee

I'll leave it with you to get your head around it then.

[DonnyOsmond]

Until he proves himself regularly above National League North level he can't expect an EFL wage.

[johnny rovers]

Until he proves himself regularly above National League North level he can't expect an EFL wage.

He's not even been offered a  NL north wage!

[GazLaz]

I know what Olowu was on here when he signed. He took it, knuckled down and is now on plenty.

Money should be irrelevant for someone that wasn’t even a first team squad member in a 4th division team last season.

[GazLaz]

Until he proves himself regularly above National League North level he can't expect an EFL wage.

He's not even been offered a  NL north wage!

That’s the thing, you can get more working and playing non league than a lot of L2 players get. You are putting the first nail in the coffin of being a pro by dropping down. He’s mental if he doesn’t sign it. I like Bobby but I could find you 10 that have dropped out of prem academies tomorrow that would jump to fill his boots.

[johnny rovers]

Until he proves himself regularly above National League North level he can't expect an EFL wage.

He's not even been offered a  NL north wage!

That’s the thing, you can get more working and playing non league than a lot of L2 players get. You are putting the first nail in the coffin of being a pro by dropping down. He’s mental if he doesn’t sign it. I like Bobby but I could find you 10 that have dropped out of prem academies tomorrow that would jump to fill his boots.

Not all clubs in NL north are part time. Some are fully Pro.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

What price for opportunity?  Do you take the money at a low non league side with less room for growth or knuckle down at a pro league one side with a point to prove?

If I backed myself I'd be going the EFL route. If he is that highly rated as some make out another EFL side will take a punt on him at higher wages of course.

The club has a budget, ultimately I wouldn't spend much on him now. An unpopular opinion with some no doubt but I dont think we have the budget to keep many development players.

[DonnyOsmond]

If neither Faulkner or Flint are going to develop for us then we might as well sack off the youth academy, a lot of money for no return on investment.

[Alan Southstand]

What price for opportunity?  Do you take the money at a low non league side with less room for growth or knuckle down at a pro league one side with a point to prove?

If I backed myself I'd be going the EFL route. If he is that highly rated as some make out another EFL side will take a punt on him at higher wages of course.

The club has a budget, ultimately I wouldn't spend much on him now. An unpopular opinion with some no doubt but I dont think we have the budget to keep many development players.

Good point, bfyp, and there has to be something done at the Club, if we’re to have any hopes of further developing good young players. It really is crying out for a separate budget for a development squad.
This could come from another new ‘entity’ on the Board, who is prepared to put a significant investment for that very purpose. We can’t expect Mr Bramall to keep piling money in for everything, after all.
GM has mentioned this very topic in one of his recent press interviews and I’m sure the Club like the idea, but liking it and funding it are two very different things.

[johnny rovers]

What price for opportunity?  Do you take the money at a low non league side with less room for growth or knuckle down at a pro league one side with a point to prove?

If I backed myself I'd be going the EFL route. If he is that highly rated as some make out another EFL side will take a punt on him at higher wages of course.

The club has a budget, ultimately I wouldn't spend much on him now. An unpopular opinion with some no doubt but I dont think we have the budget to keep many development players.

Good point, bfyp, and there has to be something done at the Club, if we’re to have any hopes of further developing good young players. It really is crying out for a separate budget for a development squad.
This could come from another new ‘entity’ on the Board, who is prepared to put a significant investment for that very purpose. We can’t expect Mr Bramall to keep piling money in for everything, after all.
GM has mentioned this very topic in one of his recent press interviews and I’m sure the Club like the idea, but liking it and funding it are two very different things.

What about getting rid of the over 60's season ticket prices....and make them pay full price. That might fund it!

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Well, sometimes players have to go backwards to go forwards, to make their own mark in the game. If he doesn't feel like he's going to get a fair crack at things from his discussions with McCann, then maybe going somewhere like Scunthorpe under Butler, could be a good move. At his age, money shouldn't be the main motivator. That will come if he believes in himself and is prepared to make sacrifices to achieve it.

As said above Olowu is a good example of a young player, surrounded by talent at Arsenal seeing some of his mates go onto make the first team, which must be hard not to feel sorry for himself, but he took the chance to get games at League One, then League Two, a long way from home, to build up his confidence and realise soke of that potential Arsenal must have seen in the young kid.

I think he said himself, he needed to get away from London to fully concentrate on football.

[ncRover]

What price for opportunity?  Do you take the money at a low non league side with less room for growth or knuckle down at a pro league one side with a point to prove?

If I backed myself I'd be going the EFL route. If he is that highly rated as some make out another EFL side will take a punt on him at higher wages of course.

The club has a budget, ultimately I wouldn't spend much on him now. An unpopular opinion with some no doubt but I dont think we have the budget to keep many development players.

Good point, bfyp, and there has to be something done at the Club, if we’re to have any hopes of further developing good young players. It really is crying out for a separate budget for a development squad.
This could come from another new ‘entity’ on the Board, who is prepared to put a significant investment for that very purpose. We can’t expect Mr Bramall to keep piling money in for everything, after all.
GM has mentioned this very topic in one of his recent press interviews and I’m sure the Club like the idea, but liking it and funding it are two very different things.

What about getting rid of the over 60's season ticket prices....and make them pay full price. That might fund it!

A 66 year old paying less for a ticket than a 25 year old in this day and age is pretty wild

[johnny rovers]

What price for opportunity?  Do you take the money at a low non league side with less room for growth or knuckle down at a pro league one side with a point to prove?

If I backed myself I'd be going the EFL route. If he is that highly rated as some make out another EFL side will take a punt on him at higher wages of course.

The club has a budget, ultimately I wouldn't spend much on him now. An unpopular opinion with some no doubt but I dont think we have the budget to keep many development players.

Good point, bfyp, and there has to be something done at the Club, if we’re to have any hopes of further developing good young players. It really is crying out for a separate budget for a development squad.
This could come from another new ‘entity’ on the Board, who is prepared to put a significant investment for that very purpose. We can’t expect Mr Bramall to keep piling money in for everything, after all.
GM has mentioned this very topic in one of his recent press interviews and I’m sure the Club like the idea, but liking it and funding it are two very different things.

What about getting rid of the over 60's season ticket prices....and make them pay full price. That might fund it!

A 66 year old paying less for a ticket than a 25 year old in this day and age is pretty wild

OAP season tickets start at the age of 60 for the Rovers. Most are probably in full time employment. And most will earn more than 25 year olds.

[Ryaldinhio]

Well, sometimes players have to go backwards to go forwards, to make their own mark in the game. If he doesn't feel like he's going to get a fair crack at things from his discussions with McCann, then maybe going somewhere like Scunthorpe under Butler, could be a good move. At his age, money shouldn't be the main motivator. That will come if he believes in himself and is prepared to make sacrifices to achieve it.

As said above Olowu is a good example of a young player, surrounded by talent at Arsenal seeing some of his mates go onto make the first team, which must be hard not to feel sorry for himself, but he took the chance to get games at League One, then League Two, a long way from home, to build up his confidence and realise soke of that potential Arsenal must have seen in the young kid.

I think he said himself, he needed to get away from London to fully concentrate on football.

Ironically he could be going back now to concentrate on his church.

[sedwardsdrfc]

This is verging into politics but my god this country is set up to favour the older. Per person the gov spend way more on that age bracket compared to our kids. And we wonder why there a productivity issue!