Faulkner??

[selby]

  The way Watters was treated and all the other ones regardless of how they have done since was very very poor and were then like others at the club in the teams at u18s levels ran into the Covid period, and never had a chance with football closed down and clubs flattened at every level.
  Watching youth football at academy level, it really has not got back to the level IMHO it was before Covid, all players coming through now lost two years if they were in the younger age groups at the time and its been hard for them as they are held to the standards expected.
  Of course there are always exceptions, I am talking of an overall standard from games I have watched in academy and grass roots football.

[steve@dcfd]

Best for both parties if he doesn't sign a new deal

So you don't rate him?

Development player for me we will need two better centre halves plus McGrath at least to bea competitive league one side. We will have Bailey as back up as long as we get another  defensive midfielder.

[CheeseToastie]

Best for both parties if he doesn't sign a new deal

So you don't rate him?

Development player for me we will need two better centre halves plus McGrath at least to bea competitive league one side. We will have Bailey as back up as long as we get another  defensive midfielder.

Wouldn't say I don't rate him just don't think he is good enough for what we are after we need to be pushing topping end league one and aiming higher. He needs consistent games to develop but I don't think he'll ever cut it above national league level unfortunately as much as I would like to see him do it think his level would be very much that of say Beestin or Mandeville but I could be wrong but just think IMO waste of a signing

[RoversInSpain]

Hope we keep him. Just got a feeling he’s really got something about him. Another season of development NL or perhaps smaller L2 club.

[selby]

  Why others are taking notice, He has just played every minute of a loan, the teams stats on stopping penetrations into the area went through the roof, he won a large proportion of heading duels, he won a large percentage of his tackles, the percentage of clean sheets for the team went up forty percent after he joined the defence compared with their previous results, he scored four goals from set pieces and also contributed a number of assists in the oppositions area, and his passing stats were up there with the best in his team.
  The team as a whole was a very young one compared with most sides in the division who mostly relied on more experienced players and was one of the youngest, when the captain of the team was missing a couple of games he was made captain of the side and was a vocal voice in the defences organisation and the team went from outside the play off positions by a number of places to getting in the playoffs after he joined, and got to the Derbyshire cup Final defeating easily Derby County's u21s team  on the way with him completely dominating them scoring two and an assist,
  He didn't do bad.

[ravenrover]

Wouldn't you have expected all that Selby, with him being a professional footballer playing at a lower level?

[Metalmicky]

  Why others are taking notice, He has just played every minute of a loan, the teams stats on stopping penetrations into the area went through the roof, he won a large proportion of heading duels, he won a large percentage of his tackles, the percentage of clean sheets for the team went up forty percent after he joined the defence compared with their previous results, he scored four goals from set pieces and also contributed a number of assists in the oppositions area, and his passing stats were up there with the best in his team.
  The team as a whole was a very young one compared with most sides in the division who mostly relied on more experienced players and was one of the youngest, when the captain of the team was missing a couple of games he was made captain of the side and was a vocal voice in the defences organisation and the team went from outside the play off positions by a number of places to getting in the playoffs after he joined, and got to the Derbyshire cup Final defeating easily Derby County's u21s team  on the way with him completely dominating them scoring two and an assist,
  He didn't do bad.

Thing is, he has a contract offer - so the club want him around.  Why hasn't he signed it yet.  Sign up, prove your worth and bigger and better contracts will come his way.

[drfchound]

Wouldn't you have expected all that Selby, with him being a professional footballer playing at a lower level?

There are several full time pro teams in NL north and south.
Also many of the semi pro teams have full time players on loan.

[Filo]

In my opinion, he missed the deadline, lets move on

[DonnyOsmond]

In my opinion, he missed the deadline, lets move on

How do we know he missed the deadline? Maybe he has signed and it's not announced yet.

[steve@dcfd]

  Why others are taking notice, He has just played every minute of a loan, the teams stats on stopping penetrations into the area went through the roof, he won a large proportion of heading duels, he won a large percentage of his tackles, the percentage of clean sheets for the team went up forty percent after he joined the defence compared with their previous results, he scored four goals from set pieces and also contributed a number of assists in the oppositions area, and his passing stats were up there with the best in his team.
  The team as a whole was a very young one compared with most sides in the division who mostly relied on more experienced players and was one of the youngest, when the captain of the team was missing a couple of games he was made captain of the side and was a vocal voice in the defences organisation and the team went from outside the play off positions by a number of places to getting in the playoffs after he joined, and got to the Derbyshire cup Final defeating easily Derby County's u21s team  on the way with him completely dominating them scoring two and an assist,
  He didn't do bad.

Because of the above information Bobby was offered a contract not released. The manager can see his development has improved. But he’s not played league 2 football or even league 1 ( Jay McGrath) hasn’t either. If he feels he can get first team football elsewhere he has a decision to make or already made we should know by tomorrow I believe.

[selby]

   Raven, players like Ironside came a similar route, Bailey from Gateshead, Sbarra, Sterry, McGrath at Alfreton, and probably more, and I know not all did that well at the time but got a break elsewhere.

[DonnyOsmond]

@Gaz - You able to see how Faulkner did in NLN?

[ravenrover]

Wouldn't you have expected all that Selby, with him being a professional footballer playing at a lower level?

There are several full time pro teams in NL north and south.
Also many of the semi pro teams have full time players on loan.

At the same.level as EFL players? Maybe some ex EFL in that mix

[ravenrover]

   Raven, players like Ironside came a similar route, Bailey from Gateshead, Sbarra, Sterry, McGrath at Alfreton, and probably more, and I know not all did that well at the time but got a break elsewhere.

Hadn't they been released though and had to find a level and still not on EFL teams books?
Anyway back to the question wouldn't you have expected it?

[Filo]

So he has rejected the contract offer

[Monkcaster_Rover]

Rejected it as of now but Grants hoping ‘common sense prevails’ so it’s not completely dead in the water. Come on Bobby, sign it and kick on with another good loan spell.

[Alan Southstand]

Seems like it’s not over yet. No doubt there will be somewhere between the 2 parties where they could reach agreement but it’s whether that place can be found!

One way or the other, it’ll be sorted in the not too distant future.

No further movement with any other players, as yet. But, he was quite clear that we will be bringing in a No1 keeper. No names.

[DonnyOsmond]

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/balls-in-his-court-grant-mccann-discusses-bobby-faulkners-doncaster-rovers-contract-stand-off-5143310

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Again, McCann confirmed he's not ready to compete for a first team squad place, so another loan to NL or L2 would be on the cards. If that's not what Bobby wants and feels he can find his own way, then that's his perogative, although McCann said we'd be due compensation for being U21.

[Danmckay456]

It’s Faulkner not Bobby Moore , if he goes a better player will come in

[steve@dcfd]

In the latest interview with Grant,  Bobby has rejected the offer. But it’s slightly complicated as we hold out compensation if he goes elsewhere hence a fee as we have offered him a contract. The club want him to stay have the  preseason with us then try the our up Most to get National league loan or even League 2

[jamesrover17]

Interesting comments regarding the fee, has the potential to get messy, national league clubs and below won’t wanting to be paying a large fee for and unproven prospect

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Interesting comments regarding the fee, has the potential to get messy, national league clubs and below won’t wanting to be paying a large fee for and unproven prospect

Well he did say, any fee would most likely be decided by a tribunal.

[jmt23]

It doesn’t sound like an ideal situation, and I just hope Bobby hasn’t shot himself in the foot here, or burnt any bridges - it doesn’t seem so listening to Grant.

My advice to Bobby if I was his dad would be, “look it looks like you are in a tight spot here, sign the contract and use the frustration (in the right way)to win a place in this first team, or on loan so another club is willing to sign you - I believe in you, and if you fully believe in your self, you will achieve it, and the money will come”

[NickDRFC]

It doesn’t sound like an ideal situation, and I just hope Bobby hasn’t shot himself in the foot here, or burnt any bridges - it doesn’t seem so listening to Grant.

My advice to Bobby if I was his dad would be, “look it looks like you are in a tight spot here, sign the contract and use the frustration (in the right way)to win a place in this first team, or on loan so another club is willing to sign you - I believe in you, and if you fully believe in your self, you will achieve it, and the money will come”

Are you listening selby? 

[Usher wide.]

I respect your opinion selby & without giving away anything you may be privy to regarding Bobby’s position, how would you personally advise him at this stage?

[5minstogo]

This smells to me. Offer a low contract knowing that any suitors will be put off by the development fee. If McCann has reservations about Bobby then maybe we shouldn't have made the offer and let him leave for nothing.

[drfchound]

It sounds to me like Grant DOES rate Bobby as he seems prepared to give him a second chance to sign his offered contract.
Grant isn’t a fool and doesn’t appear to be saying the deadline has passed so bugger off to a player who he can see good potential for.

[selby]

 Yes Raven I expected it, he is way above that level and proved it, do you think every player we have got signed would have done as well?
  I also think the same of Flint as well, but there again I watch them play, and don't comment on what or who I have not watched.
  As a long term supporter of Doncaster Rovers I want Bobby to sign for us, but it is completely up to the club and Bobby to come to an agreement because I agree with much Grant has said and both can benefit, but is nothing to do with me.