Faulkner??

[Ian Nimmo]

Considering minimum wage for a 21 year old is around £480 a week, he will be 21 in August, then £750 is certainly not high for a young L1 squad player.
Then you have to factor in all the football career to normal career differences, mainly uncertainty around how long his career will last etc.

The main issue here is what level is Bobby currently?

From the few times we saw him, he looked a real prospect, so in the time since has he not kicked on or has deteriorated?
If Grant has considered there is no way he would get in our match day squads, then we may as well part ways, thus a new contract and loan out would be the best option. If this is not acceptable to Bobby and agent, then the club are correct to secure compensation. Surely Grant and his team will have a good idea of his capabilities, so no point us speculating.

[streathamdave]

Things have probably only been allowed to drag out for 1 of 2 reasons, either because they are close on terms or (more likely) because central defender targets have not signed from elsewhere so until they do he still brings that bit extra value to the club. Personally I hope he signs but the longer it drags the less likely it seems.

[keith79]

If rovers withdraw the offer does a new team still have to pay compensation?

[Draytonian III]

I got £21.50 for 39 hours working on an ev line in a chicken factory in 1980, the first week I kept all my wages, the 2nd week I had to start paying board

[Scooter]

Personally feel like the way GM has gone in on this publicly means he has gone in with a low offer amd trying to bully Bobby to sign, not for him to play for Donny but to secure a fee.

For me any fee decided would be minimal based on the criteria and level we were at when he played his games in first team.

I think we should be offering him a deal and bringing him into first team SQUAD.

Let's not forget last two seasons he came back to preseason as the most fit player.......therefore the most professional out of ALL our favourite players who enjoyed their holidays.

The boy is WAP as they say.

Be dissapointed if we lose him

If I was at the club for sure his base salary wouldn’t be offered high due to the fact he hasn’t played a lot or any experience at this level. £750pw max imo. Incentives on appearances/clean sheets etc.

I met a senior club official for a coffee whilst Danny Schofield was in charge. The majority of the first teamers at that time were on a lot less than 750 a week

[GazLaz]

If he’s been offered more than £500 a week it’s criminal. And I’m one of his bigger fans.

[The Beast]

If he’s been offered more than £500 a week it’s criminal. And I’m one of his bigger fans.

At £500 a week it’s still better than being part/time and having a job. He’s still full time earning enough to live on, he’s got all Rovers facilities and he’s still in the mix. He could probably earn more away from Rovers but will it be good for his career?

[MachoMadness]

I heard from a mutual friend what Molyneux was taking home per month last season. That figure for our star player indicates that £750, even £500 a week for a development player is way above the mark, put it that way. And rightly so, to be fair.

[selby]

  We were all heading for non League up to February that season.

[DRFCSouth]

It's probably time to pursue players who want to sign for us. (Which will be underway).

If anyone doesn't want to sign a deal, it's their prerogative. Good luck to them in the future.

[KingKendrick]

I heard from a mutual friend what Molyneux was taking home per month last season. That figure for our star player indicates that £750, even £500 a week for a development player is way above the mark, put it that way. And rightly so, to be fair.

I’d be very surprised if Moly wasn’t on 2.5-3k per week. Especially with the wage increases that come with promotion. He’ll be on the most money at the club after signing that 3 year deal last summer.

[jmt23]

The stars will always be at the other extreme side, and I also expect him to be on a very good salary. It is also well known that attackers  earn the most at clubs, in general.

I also don’t buy into the short term life span of players in football, anyone of us could lose our jobs tomorrow, there will be a large percentage of those that cannot move or transfer the skill set into another job.

We don’t know what was offered by DRFC or the reason it was turned down - and that is most important part to remember, only BF and DRFC know.
I would dearly hope a young lad with little experience hasn’t turned down what would appear to be the national average UK salary, (if that rumour is true)that would say to me the right motivation isn’t there.

[steve@dcfd]

7 pages for a young player that as not been near a Rovers league side even though we been in league 2 for two seasons. In fact he’s not been near the first team for 4 years. He has been developed, training st the club and recovering from injuries and going out on loan. The most successful being the last one at Buxton. So let’s hope the club sort it this week he can either stay and maybe go out on loan or leave to another team.
Most important thing now is we need at least 2 league one standard centre halves hopefully before preseason.

[DonnyOsmond]

7 pages for a young player that as not been near a Rovers league side even though we been in league 2 for two seasons. In fact he’s not been near the first team for 4 years. He has been developed, training st the club and recovering from injuries and going out on loan. The most successful being the last one at Buxton. So let’s hope the club sort it this week he can either stay and maybe go out on loan or leave to another team.
Most important thing now is we need at least 2 league one standard centre halves hopefully before preseason.

Other than the 1,300 minutes of League Two football in 22/23.

[dickos1]

If he’s been offered more than £500 a week it’s criminal. And I’m one of his bigger fans.

National minimum wage is only £11 a week less than that.
He should be on much more than that

[IDM]

Minimum wage is hours based.  How many hours per week are footballers paid for, or more realistically how many hours do they work?

[ncRover]

If he’s been offered more than £500 a week it’s criminal. And I’m one of his bigger fans.

National minimum wage is only £11 a week less than that.
He should be on much more than that

If the market dictates his wage should be higher than that he should have that offer on table from another club right now.
Does he?

[selby]

  The way I see it there are quite a few reasons why he should stay at the Rovers, not just football reasons, and the fact the club want him to stay on contract and the attraction of a management and coaching staff that can improve him, and have made it clear they want him at the club and have plans for him and one reason to leave, money.
 As his career is concerned it could end up short term gain for long term pain.
  I watched him quite a few times at Buxton, he is now a far better player than when he burst onto the scene as a boy, a presence on the field of play, if he stays and hits the same form as at Buxton it will be a very good player that keeps him out of the team IMHO, and as a supporter I hope that competition arises with a strong squad and competition for every position on the field of play.
 

[GazLaz]

If he’s been offered more than £500 a week it’s criminal. And I’m one of his bigger fans.

National minimum wage is only £11 a week less than that.
He should be on much more than that

My he shouldn’t. He’s got zero leverage.

[ravenrover]

  The way I see it there are quite a few reasons why he should stay at the Rovers, not just football reasons, and the fact the club want him to stay on contract and the attraction of a management and coaching staff that can improve him, and have made it clear they want him at the club and have plans for him and one reason to leave, money.
 As his career is concerned it could end up short term gain for long term pain.
  I watched him quite a few times at Buxton, he is now a far better player than when he burst onto the scene as a boy, a presence on the field of play, if he stays and hits the same form as at Buxton it will be a very good player that keeps him out of the team IMHO, and as a supporter I hope that competition arises with a strong squad and competition for every position on the field of play.
 

GM said in his recent interview he doesn't see Bobby breaking into the 1st team yet. His immediate future is National/L2 on loan.
His agent missed the deadline and was late getting back to the Club which will not please GM

[selby]

  Raven, he has not missed any deadline to re-sign, mainly because his agent was hospitalised after talks had started with the club.
  As far as the club and Grant McCann are concerned they have been nothing else but helpful and encouraging of the situation with their contacts with Bobby who has had other clubs contacting his agent who has had to pass on the information and his advice to the lad, who is still twenty, and realises after two wasted seasons through injury has it all to do again from a new start wherever he plays next season.
  That's a lot for a young man to take in, a lesson in life some don't recover from, and big decisions about his personal future, and again the club have been nothing else but helpful, and I am sure a decision will be made soon, which has to be his after he looks at everything in front of him.
  I want him very much to stay, he is ready, but it will be up to him to prove it preseason  wherever he plays next season.
  I know one thing for certain, it won't be for the lack of trying, it's not in his personality not to be the best he can be.

[big fat yorkshire pudding]

  Raven, he has not missed any deadline to re-sign, mainly because his agent was hospitalised after talks had started with the club.
 

Crikey, I didn't expect the talks to be that hard going!

On a more serious note, what a huge decision to be making at this stage of his life.  If I backed myself I'd be taking the higher level offer and proving my point on less money with the long term goal to succeed, but it's not my career or bank balance on the line.

[ravenrover]

  Raven, he has not missed any deadline to re-sign, mainly because his agent was hospitalised after talks had started with the club.
  As far as the club and Grant McCann are concerned they have been nothing else but helpful and encouraging of the situation with their contacts with Bobby who has had other clubs contacting his agent who has had to pass on the information and his advice to the lad, who is still twenty, and realises after two wasted seasons through injury has it all to do again from a new start wherever he plays next season.
  That's a lot for a young man to take in, a lesson in life some don't recover from, and big decisions about his personal future, and again the club have been nothing else but helpful, and I am sure a decision will be made soon, which has to be his after he looks at everything in front of him.
  I want him very much to stay, he is ready, but it will be up to him to prove it preseason  wherever he plays next season.
  I know one thing for certain, it won't be for the lack of trying, it's not in his personality not to be the best he can be.

So when GM says we set a deadline, we didn't hear back but then we did, would indicate he missed the deadline, Yes?

[Jonathan]

Let’s hope he signs and we can crack on with accelerating his development and leave behind the more intrusive discussions over private contract talks and deadlines.

We need to bring in more central defenders regardless, and Bobby Faulkner needs games, but if we had an injury crisis I would feel comfortable with him stepping in and hopefully over the coming years (if he stays) he can work towards cementing a fixed place in the first team squad.

[selby]

  Raven, its about talking to each other in a progressive way and both parties having the full information and grown up conversations when negotiating contracts, obviously things you find hard to grasp.
  In the past I have managed engineering works with quite a big work force, and if any had taken your approach to employment and wage negotiations they would have got exactly nowhere.
 In my experience when everyone had the full facts, treated each other with respect, and wanted the best for both parties, generally, if the hot heads you seem to take after were taken out of the equation things got worked out to everyones satisfaction.

[ravenrover]

Can't avoid the insults can you Selby and as I've said before you know nothing about me. The only point in question was did he miss the deadline, no hot headedness on my part
And as you raise past employment I managed an operation with quite a large workforce managerial clerical and industrial never any bother with my staff who were very unionised.
As for Bobby despite your obsession I hope he sees sense and signs a contract renewal

[selby]

  We ought to get together and negotiate a peace over a pint.,First point who buys the drinks.

[ravenrover]

I'm up for that, any home game name your tipple my round BV bar or West stand concourse

[selby]

  Thats two of us up for it then and we can arrange it for one of the early games, I look forward to it.

[Pancho Regan]

SCRAP!
SCRAP!
SCRAP!