Liverpool

[scawsby steve]

Dreadful incident being reported at the public celebration of Liverpool's Premier League title.

Someone has driven a car into the crowd. No details yet on the severity of the casualties.

[Filo]

Footage all over x, not really good

[BobG]

Oh Christ... What IS it with some people?

ANY gathering at all is going to end up being forbidden. Imagine  a Bonfire Night crowd or an airshow or....

BobG

[Pintolager]

Seen some footage myself and it looks awful. Hopefully no-one is seriously injured. A 53 yo man has been arrested. Quite rightly, Police are asking people not to speculate

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Terrible news.

[Scooter]

I’ve seen the videos and they are horrendous. My eleven year old son’s friend is there and was nearby. Luckily he is ok but there will be many that are not.
I suspect that there will be some fatalities
Absolutely shocking scenes

[bpoolrover]

At the start the car seems to be getting trashed by people before he drove into people

[selby]

  Reports say he crashed into the crowd and when they banged on the car shouting what are you doing he backed up and rammed more people.

[bpoolrover]

  Reports say he crashed into the crowd and when they banged on the car shouting what are you doing he backed up and rammed more people.

the first video shows the car not moving and it getting smashed up, he then reversed and then went forward,there might have been something before that thou

[rich1471]

More than 50% of terrorist attacks are done by by white people,the BBC are playing this down as one ,what ever this is it is shocking ,stayed in Liverpool a few times and it's a great place with great people

[adamtherover]

More than 50% of terrorist attacks are done by by white people,the BBC are playing this down as one ,what ever this is it is shocking ,stayed in Liverpool a few times and it's a great place with great people

slightly tainting the figures when the majority of 20th century attacks were IRA in Ireland. vast majority of incidents in the 21st century are linked to islamic extremists, which  no one is saying this is..

[scawsby steve]

27 people taken to hospital.

2 are serious, including a child.

[selby]

  Compare that statement who is responsible with the time taken over the Southport incident. Why the difference?

[The Beast]

  Compare that statement who is responsible with the time taken over the Southport incident. Why the difference?

Probably because they’ve learned their lesson and need act quickly to try and stop idiots spreading misinformation online, as this can lead to further unrest in a volatile situation.

[Filo]

  Compare that statement who is responsible with the time taken over the Southport incident. Why the difference?

I knew someone would say that, I also knew it would come from someone of your ilk, so they were too slow at Southport and too quick at Liverpool, tell us what is the optimum time to realease a statement?

[Smyth]

  Compare that statement who is responsible with the time taken over the Southport incident. Why the difference?

I knew someone would say that, I also knew it would come from someone of your ilk, so they were too slow at Southport and too quick at Liverpool, tell us what is the optimum time to realease a statement?

I knew someone of your  "ilk" would ask that question,  well the timescale has now been decided between the Home Office and Police, within a relatively short time from now on.
Hopefully the incident doesn't have any loss of life,  then Starmer won't need to place flowers for a few seconds,  hang around the place for 15 minutes and say nothing in public before pissing off to a party in Downing Street quick as possible as he did after the Southport killings.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13877291/Keir-Starmer-floral-tribute-children-killed-Southport-knife-attack-Labour-drinks-Downing-Street.html

[sf9944]

Any chance we could keep the politics in the politics section?!

[DRFC_AjA]

Any chance the whole thing can be moved to off topic.  And no, before someone suggests, we don't want a clap at (insert random minute here) at our next match

[IDM]

  Compare that statement who is responsible with the time taken over the Southport incident. Why the difference?

What a sad indictment of our society this is.

One, for the incident to happen in the first place.

And two, that it is necessary to reveal the ethnicity, age and sex of the perpetrator almost immediately, to prevent online conspiracy theorists spreading misinformation and further violence as a result from their sheep like followers.

Oh and three, that this descends into political point scoring on here.

Mods please move this thread.

[TonySoprano]

  Compare that statement who is responsible with the time taken over the Southport incident. Why the difference?

Well, when the next one happens, and they don't release the ethnicity of the culprit straight away, we will know who's done it.

[turnbull for england]

Within 10 mins of it happening , a lad I was at school with was sharing videos along with all the usual rhetoric. He and others were absolutely confident of who had done it and have now switched to some bizarre two tier arguing with police for them reporting who did it , as with the fact he was bundled into a police van with out allowing chance for a profile picture as another " explain that moment"  absolutely obsessed that it and quote " can't be one of us , we don't do that" . Never mind that police were extremely brave in getting the perpetrator to safety to save him getting lynched , it has to be a bigger conspiracy.  And if anyones wondering, he was a massive Reform campaigner in the recent elections. Just shows there's no such thing as a coincidence.

[IDM]

  Compare that statement who is responsible with the time taken over the Southport incident. Why the difference?

Well, when the next one happens, and they don't release the ethnicity of the culprit straight away, we will know who's done it.

We, no we won’t.  If they don’t release any details folks would just be guessing, and jumping to (potentially incorrect) conclusions..

Not everything is ethnic related you know..  criminals are criminals first and foremost, regardless of their background.  Or do you think it’s the other way around eh.?

[TonySoprano]

  Compare that statement who is responsible with the time taken over the Southport incident. Why the difference?

Well, when the next one happens, and they don't release the ethnicity of the culprit straight away, we will know who's done it.

We, no we won’t.  If they don’t release any details folks would just be guessing, and jumping to (potentially incorrect) conclusions..

Not everything is ethnic related you know..  criminals are criminals first and foremost, regardless of their background.  Or do you think it’s the other way around eh.?

Yeah, alright pal 

[BobG]

God Almighty.....

[wilts rover]

  Compare that statement who is responsible with the time taken over the Southport incident. Why the difference?

Well, when the next one happens, and they don't release the ethnicity of the culprit straight away, we will know who's done it.

Why do some people want to know the ethnicity of criminals? Isn't them being a criminal enough? Or are they more bothered about race than crime?

[SydneyRover]

Club Doncaster prides itself with an inclusive policy which means of course everyone, no ifs nor buts, those that disagree with this policy are at liberty to do so and should make a formal complaint expressing their concerns and reasons for those concerns. There are many opportunities to do so.

Or, if they don't feel comfortable making their views public and prefer to retain their anonymity they can of course leave the club themselves.

[Smyth]

Club Doncaster prides itself with an inclusive policy which means of course everyone, no ifs nor buts, those that disagree with this policy are at liberty to do so and should make a formal complaint expressing their concerns and reasons for those concerns. There are many opportunities to do so.

Or, if they don't feel comfortable making their views public and prefer to retain their anonymity they can of course leave the club themselves.

You don't have a clue. However Sir Mark Rowley, head of the Metropolitan Police has now said details of ethnicity of accused should be released as soon as possible, differing from the time of the Southport stabbings when the information released was that it was carried out by a choir singer from Wales.

Now Mr Clueless I  want to take you up on your claim of  "inclusivity".
You think the club should allow a man dressing as and calling himself a woman be able to have access to women only spaces , I.E being able to use female toilets at the ground?
Now I'm  not aware of it happening but should such an incident take place and the club insist on the right of a man to enter female only toilets then I would instigate proceedings against the club for not following law, is that clear?

[TonySoprano]

  Compare that statement who is responsible with the time taken over the Southport incident. Why the difference?

Well, when the next one happens, and they don't release the ethnicity of the culprit straight away, we will know who's done it.

Why do some people want to know the ethnicity of criminals? Isn't them being a criminal enough? Or are they more bothered about race than crime?

It's all about a much much bigger picture

[SydneyRover]

Club Doncaster prides itself with an inclusive policy which means of course everyone, no ifs nor buts, those that disagree with this policy are at liberty to do so and should make a formal complaint expressing their concerns and reasons for those concerns. There are many opportunities to do so.

Or, if they don't feel comfortable making their views public and prefer to retain their anonymity they can of course leave the club themselves.

You don't have a clue. However Sir Mark Rowley, head of the Metropolitan Police has now said details of ethnicity of accused should be released as soon as possible, differing from the time of the Southport stabbings when the information released was that it was carried out by a choir singer from Wales.

Now Mr Clueless I  want to take you up on your claim of  "inclusivity".
You think the club should allow a man dressing as and calling himself a woman be able to have access to women only spaces , I.E being able to use female toilets at the ground?
Now I'm  not aware of it happening but should such an incident take place and the club insist on the right of a man to enter female only toilets then I would instigate proceedings against the club for not following law, is that clear?

I don't think anyone from the club would be crass enough to ask one of your dumbshit questions, to make it simple for you as appear to be an extremely simple person of simple thought, imagine yourself in the ground near the dugout, now if you wouldn't feel comfortable posing one of your dumbshit ideas to those in the dugout then you really need to get a grip and air your limited views and dumbshit ideas where others may agree with you.

Have you found anyone on here that does? if so maybe discuss your problems together offline. Just a suggestion like.

[Smyth]

Club Doncaster prides itself with an inclusive policy which means of course everyone, no ifs nor buts, those that disagree with this policy are at liberty to do so and should make a formal complaint expressing their concerns and reasons for those concerns. There are many opportunities to do so.

Or, if they don't feel comfortable making their views public and prefer to retain their anonymity they can of course leave the club themselves.

You don't have a clue. However Sir Mark Rowley, head of the Metropolitan Police has now said details of ethnicity of accused should be released as soon as possible, differing from the time of the Southport stabbings when the information released was that it was carried out by a choir singer from Wales.

Now Mr Clueless I  want to take you up on your claim of  "inclusivity".
You think the club should allow a man dressing as and calling himself a woman be able to have access to women only spaces , I.E being able to use female toilets at the ground?
Now I'm  not aware of it happening but should such an incident take place and the club insist on the right of a man to enter female only toilets then I would instigate proceedings against the club for not following law, is that clear?

I don't think anyone from the club would be crass enough to ask one of your dumbshit questions, to make it simple for you as appear to be an extremely simple person of simple thought, imagine yourself in the ground near the dugout, now if you wouldn't feel comfortable posing one of your dumbshit ideas to those in the dugout then you really need to get a grip and air your limited views and dumbshit ideas where others may agree with you.

Have you found anyone on here that does? if so maybe discuss your problems together offline. Just a suggestion like.

Have to admit that went over my head, you seem to be suggesting I should ask someone in the dugout whether a man calling himself a woman should be entitled to use a female only toilet. Well I wouldn't because I couldn't care less what a team manager or assistant thought on the matter.
My position is I would instigate legal action against the club for allowing men to enter female toilets.
Clear enough?
Do you think men should enter women only toilets,  why?