Rotherham

[Ryaldinhio]

I work with a Rotherham fan & he is also concerned they could go down, currently 5/1 to be relegated, might drop a few quid on it.

Did you back it Albert?

No, sadly, still it's not going to wipe the smile of my face, what a day.

I put a four way relegation bet on at the start of the season.
West Ham,Oxford,Rotherham and Newport to go down.
£5 stake potential win of £2113
Cash out currently at £490 which I'm tempted by as it would pay for me and my lad's season tickets for next season.

For me West Ham will get out of it. Found some form recently.

£5 for next yrs season tickets is a result. I never cash out.....but often regret it!

[Rupee92ONLY]

As long as we are safely up, you’d hope they can survive. With Wednesdays coming down and Barnsley nowhere, that will be a relative rarity to have 4/5 South Yorkshire sides in the same league.

I’d rather them go the same was as Scunthorpe tbh. We’ll always get a load of big away followings here in this league anyway so we won’t really miss the financial side of it. Our away following is good everywhere. They offer us nothing. Let the scruffy bas**rds sink.

[Scooter]

I’d much rather have Scunthorpe in the league than Rotherham. Rotherham and the team I hate the most. Their players added to that yesterday, constant complaining to the referee and chucking themselves to the floor every time they were in our penalty area. Cheating bas**rds get what they deserve

[MachoMadness]

Rotherham ground at least has a bar fit for human use. Don't miss cramming into that iron lung they have under the away end at Glanford park.

[GazLaz]

Rotherham ground at least has a bar fit for human use. Don't miss cramming into that iron lung they have under the away end at Glanford park.

The concourse feels very cramped at the NY stadium. The ground is shite.

[Chris Black come back]

20% smaller capacity than Eco-Power.

[mushRTID]

They’ve built it bigger on the side where the main road and train passes to make it appear more impressive than it actually is. A tinpot move.

[scawsby steve]

Our capacity is more than the NY Stadium, but it doesn't look it, because the stands at the NY are steeper, and give the impression that the ground is bigger than it is.

To be honest, I find the atmosphere and acoustics there better than at ours.

[vaya]

Rotherham ground at least has a bar fit for human use. Don't miss cramming into that iron lung they have under the away end at Glanford park.

The concourse feels very cramped at the NY stadium. The ground is shite.

Not a fan of it. Lopsided. Reminds me of that Escher drawing with all the stairs.

[Donnywolf]

Rotherham ground at least has a bar fit for human use. Don't miss cramming into that iron lung they have under the away end at Glanford park.

... and Walsall ( built by same Company I presume ) or designed by same person

Only difference is the Executive Boxes behind one goal +++

+++ Yes I know , different Flags different Adverts etc etc

[Padge_DRFC]

They've built it better for fans once in the seats. It's not 30 meters from the pitch like ours and steeper. Miles better. Don't know why we needed the massive tarmac on top of the other big wide path around the ground.

[TonySoprano]

Much prefer our stadium.
Rotherhams looks odd, far too steep which looks strange.
Looks half finished. With what looks like a bus shelter opposite their main stand, which the rest of the roof doesn't even join.

Some say, its good because its near the town centre. But Rotherham town centre is horrific, absolutely nothing going for it.
Hardly any pubs. No shopping or restaurants, just a filthy place.

[eastender]

I watched it being built on the webcam , 3 of the stands have nothing but the concourse , unlike the ECO which has different facilities in every stand.

[IDM]

They've built it better for fans once in the seats. It's not 30 meters from the pitch like ours and steeper. Miles better. Don't know why we needed the massive tarmac on top of the other big wide path around the ground.

The extra space could be why we’ve got a decent category to be able to stage international fixtures.??

[Smyth]

Much prefer our stadium.
Rotherhams looks odd, far too steep which looks strange.
Looks half finished. With what looks like a bus shelter opposite their main stand, which the rest of the roof doesn't even join.

Difficult as is it to praise anything Rotherham,  they've done well to squeeze the stadium in between a dual carriageway,  a railway, a knackered 19th century foundry building and the River Don. The river behind it is why the stand opposite the larger main one has to be so small and there's no possibility of expansion,  not that the need is ever likely.

It may well be the best ground in the  EFL's lowest league season.

Their owner is currently setting about having a hotel built on the foundry site, through  Stewart Developments.

Oh, remember the days when T Bramall was accused of only  being involved with Rovers because of development opportunities around the Keepmoat, as it was known then and still is by many? They've  disappeared.

On that I  hope  T Bramall can have a word with Keepmoat and sign a long-term sponsorship with them and have our stadium given back it's  rightful title, I wince when someone refers to the eco power laughable rubbish.

Whatever next? The Adrian Welch Glazing Company ( available 24hrs a day for all your emergency boarding needs) stadium?

A small gripe, but either return to Keepmoat or no sponsorship at all and have it named Lakeside Stadium, though sponsorship from the shopping area would be OK even if only bringing in a peppercorn fee.

[GazLaz]

I watched it being built on the webcam , 3 of the stands have nothing but the concourse , unlike the ECO which has different facilities in every stand.

That’s the main difference. Ours is a much more usable facility.

[drfchound]

Much prefer our stadium.
Rotherhams looks odd, far too steep which looks strange.
Looks half finished. With what looks like a bus shelter opposite their main stand, which the rest of the roof doesn't even join.

Difficult as is it to praise anything Rotherham,  they've done well to squeeze the stadium in between a dual carriageway,  a railway, a knackered 19th century foundry building and the River Don. The river behind it is why the stand opposite the larger main one has to be so small and there's no possibility of expansion,  not that the need is ever likely.

It may well be the best ground in the  EFL's lowest league season.

Their owner is currently setting about having a hotel built on the foundry site, through  Stewart Developments.

Oh, remember the days when T Bramall was accused of only  being involved with Rovers because of development opportunities around the Keepmoat, as it was known then and still is by many? They've  disappeared.

On that I  hope  T Bramall can have a word with Keepmoat and sign a long-term sponsorship with them and have our stadium given back it's  rightful title, I wince when someone refers to the eco power laughable rubbish.

Whatever next? The Adrian Welch Glazing Company ( available 24hrs a day for all your emergency boarding needs) stadium?

A small gripe, but either return to Keepmoat or no sponsorship at all and have it named Lakeside Stadium, though sponsorship from the shopping area would be OK even if only bringing in a peppercorn fee.

Eco power won’t be renewing their sponsorship contract with us when it ends.

[Fal]

Much prefer our stadium.
Rotherhams looks odd, far too steep which looks strange.
Looks half finished. With what looks like a bus shelter opposite their main stand, which the rest of the roof doesn't even join.

Difficult as is it to praise anything Rotherham,  they've done well to squeeze the stadium in between a dual carriageway,  a railway, a knackered 19th century foundry building and the River Don. The river behind it is why the stand opposite the larger main one has to be so small and there's no possibility of expansion,  not that the need is ever likely.

It may well be the best ground in the  EFL's lowest league season.

Their owner is currently setting about having a hotel built on the foundry site, through  Stewart Developments.

Oh, remember the days when T Bramall was accused of only  being involved with Rovers because of development opportunities around the Keepmoat, as it was known then and still is by many? They've  disappeared.

On that I  hope  T Bramall can have a word with Keepmoat and sign a long-term sponsorship with them and have our stadium given back it's  rightful title, I wince when someone refers to the eco power laughable rubbish.

Whatever next? The Adrian Welch Glazing Company ( available 24hrs a day for all your emergency boarding needs) stadium?

A small gripe, but either return to Keepmoat or no sponsorship at all and have it named Lakeside Stadium, though sponsorship from the shopping area would be OK even if only bringing in a peppercorn fee.

Does it really matter? I mean Belle Vue will always be Belle Vue to all DRFC fans and not the Earth Stadium.

Sponsorship of Stadiums is high in football and there wasn't really any name given for ours and i doubt we could use Keepmoat since thats a brand.

[Miller23]

They’ve built it bigger on the side where the main road and train passes to make it appear more impressive than it actually is. A tinpot move.

Rotherham fan. Congrats on the win, deserved it.

Re: the ground -- it's bigger on that side and smaller on the other because of the river there. It was built with the capability of being extended to 16k. During the 22/23 Championship season we only ever had single seats left on sale and the away end was constantly full so you could have given away sides an extra thousand and it wouldn't have looked empty. I’d only look at extending if we can put together a few seasons on the spin at that level (which seems a million miles away right now).

I prefer the steepness, size & acoustics of NYS but your ground beats ours hands down commercially. The majority of units in our main stand are still unused from when it opened 13 years ago but the club don’t seem to care as they’re happy doing the bare minimum. I think the only 2 uses we have for the Main Stand is they do Xmas parties and also speed awareness courses there haha. The other 3 stands don’t have anything except a concourse. Tbh the stadium was a bit of a rush job as we only had 4 years to move back to Rotherham as per an agreement with the EFL. It looks tired now. Needs sprucing up a bit.

As for footballing matters, we are 100% going down. Manager is clueless & out of his depth and the chairman (who’s fully checked out now) is only holding on to the club so he can build his hotel. Dark times.

I would say see you next season but I doubt it.

[Smyth]

Much prefer our stadium.
Rotherhams looks odd, far too steep which looks strange.
Looks half finished. With what looks like a bus shelter opposite their main stand, which the rest of the roof doesn't even join.

Difficult as is it to praise anything Rotherham,  they've done well to squeeze the stadium in between a dual carriageway,  a railway, a knackered 19th century foundry building and the River Don. The river behind it is why the stand opposite the larger main one has to be so small and there's no possibility of expansion,  not that the need is ever likely.

It may well be the best ground in the  EFL's lowest league season.

Their owner is currently setting about having a hotel built on the foundry site, through  Stewart Developments.

Oh, remember the days when T Bramall was accused of only  being involved with Rovers because of development opportunities around the Keepmoat, as it was known then and still is by many? They've  disappeared.

On that I  hope  T Bramall can have a word with Keepmoat and sign a long-term sponsorship with them and have our stadium given back it's  rightful title, I wince when someone refers to the eco power laughable rubbish.

Whatever next? The Adrian Welch Glazing Company ( available 24hrs a day for all your emergency boarding needs) stadium?

A small gripe, but either return to Keepmoat or no sponsorship at all and have it named Lakeside Stadium, though sponsorship from the shopping area would be OK even if only bringing in a peppercorn fee.

Does it really matter? I mean Belle Vue will always be Belle Vue to all DRFC fans and not the Earth Stadium.

Sponsorship of Stadiums is high in football and there wasn't really any name given for ours and i doubt we could use Keepmoat since thats a brand.

Does it matter? As I  said above small gripe but when I hear, particularly national broadcasters refer to the eco power I  cringe

Anyonewantit to be called The Toughsheet or similar irrelevancy?

The issue of sponsorship of Keepmoat being a brand I've dealt with by hoping TBramall can have a word with the company he made his huge fortune with,  perhaps another 10 year sponsorship?
Failing that how about the T Bramhall Lakeside Stadium.

Sounds far better than Ady Welch Glass or whatever is next.

[colincramb]

I wasn’t that impressed with the acoustics on Saturday. Could really hear their end at all, even though it was obvious they were doing some kind of singing at points. Didn’t think it was any better than or worse than ours to be honest.

As for the stands being steep. I’d say that’s much better. I don’t think ours are particularly shallow, but it’s feels a lot further from the pitch (and is), probably in part due to the multipurpose use in which it was built with the rugby in mind. Still think they could have got it closer though even with that in mind.

[TonySoprano]

We have the room to dig down to expand i suppose !

[DonnyBazR0ver]

There are pro's and cons with both stadium designs with each having different constraints or otherwise.

I don't really like the higher rake of the Rotherham stands as there's quite a few folk who struggle to climb those steps, particularly with the lack of handrails. The entrances/exits and concourses are all relatively narrow too, so from a comfort perspective I think the Eco has the advantage. On other hand, there are some benefits with the steeper rake bringing the crowd in a bit more to the pitch.

What we also forget is the EcoMoat is a hybrid of an original design that would have originally accommodated an upper tier on one side with provision for another on the opposite side (where the rake would have been steeper) underneath a curved 'floating' roof. That design had to be scaled back due to delays causing increased building costs so compromises had to be made to stay within budget. So what we have on East and West is what in effect would have been the lower tiers.

What isn't in doubt though, is both clubs have benefitted from having new build stadiums far superior to what they replaced, and are serving us well. 
 

[Sprotyrover]

There are pro's and cons with both stadium designs with each having different constraints or otherwise.

I don't really like the higher rake of the Rotherham stands as there's quite a few folk who struggle to climb those steps, particularly with the lack of handrails. The entrances/exits and concourses are all relatively narrow too, so from a comfort perspective I think the Eco has the advantage. On other hand, there are some benefits with the steeper rake bringing the crowd in a bit more to the pitch.

What we also forget is the EcoMoat is a hybrid of an original design that would have originally accommodated an upper tier on one side with provision for another on the opposite side (where the rake would have been steeper) underneath a curved 'floating' roof. That design had to be scaled back due to delays causing increased building costs so compromises had to be made to stay within budget. So what we have on East and West is what in effect would have been the lower tiers.

What isn't in doubt though, is both clubs have benefitted from having new build stadiums far superior to what they replaced, and are serving us well. 
 

Are the ‘Underpins’ still there?

[ForsolongaRover]

There are pro's and cons with both stadium designs with each having different constraints or otherwise.

I don't really like the higher rake of the Rotherham stands as there's quite a few folk who struggle to climb those steps, particularly with the lack of handrails. The entrances/exits and concourses are all relatively narrow too, so from a comfort perspective I think the Eco has the advantage. On other hand, there are some benefits with the steeper rake bringing the crowd in a bit more to the pitch.

What we also forget is the EcoMoat is a hybrid of an original design that would have originally accommodated an upper tier on one side with provision for another on the opposite side (where the rake would have been steeper) underneath a curved 'floating' roof. That design had to be scaled back due to delays causing increased building costs so compromises had to be made to stay within budget. So what we have on East and West is what in effect would have been the lower tiers.

What isn't in doubt though, is both clubs have benefitted from having new build stadiums far superior to what they replaced, and are serving us well.

As you grow older, getting up and particularly coming down steps becomes more challenging due to wasting muscles which makes ascents more of a problem and there are added risks when descending due to diminishing balance control. The height of the steps on the standing terraces was far less, often not much more than the step-up of a pavement above the road. I can’t say that I have noticed a problem at the Eco/Keepmoat. The only beef I would have is that you have to be well back to avoid getting wet if it rains.

[Plumbster]

I have seen a lot of people struggle on the steps at KM and and in the post match surveys I have often mentioned the danger of the lack of a hand rail. No doubt there is a good reason but perhaps the supporters board could get an official response to this?

[Bentley Bullet]

I suppose handrails would cause viewing restrictions.

[roversdude]

Just adding to the moans about Rotherham - that bloody “scoreboard” where was the time on it, constantly ran advertising, unfortunately ours is going the same way

[Fal]

Just adding to the moans about Rotherham - that bloody “scoreboard” where was the time on it, constantly ran advertising, unfortunately ours is going the same way

It was behind us, i thought the same but then saw it on a clip behind our fans with the score and current time. I had zero clue throughout the whole game how long was left like the old days!

[DonnyBazR0ver]

I suppose handrails would cause viewing restrictions.

Potentially. The new builds like Everton, Spurs and Man City extentions have like grab handles at the end of each row in the steeper stands. I would imagine the cost of retro fitting these would be expensive.

For the clock, for a bit of nostalgia, shall we fit a big clock like the Barker & Wigfall clock on top of the old Cowshed? Would that help?