Goalkeepers feigning injury to take a tactical break

[Dutch Uncle]

Time to change the rules IMHO.

Either - the keeper goes off for treatment and has a delay before coming back on like any outfield player, or they sub the goalkeeper. If the team concerned chooses not to sub and gives the gloves temporarily to an outfield player, they have to wait for a break in play before the gloves can be swapped back to the returning 'injured' keeper.

Does not apply if injury to keeper arises from a physical clash with an opposing player resulting in a free kick to the keeper's team.   

[hamiltonrover]

Time to change the rules IMHO.

Either - the keeper goes off for treatment and has a delay before coming back on like any outfield player, or they sub the goalkeeper. If the team concerned chooses not to sub and gives the gloves temporarily to an outfield player, they have to wait for a break in play before the gloves can be swapped back to the returning 'injured' keeper.

Does not apply if injury to keeper arises from a physical clash with an opposing player resulting in a free kick to the keeper's team.   

I agree, but would probably suggest that if a GK goes down injured, then the outfield players are not permitted to go within 20-30 yards of the technical area until the game re-starts.

[McCammon egg n chips]

Can't stand it, depressing knowing we'll face another season of charades like last night's.

The 25min water break is one of the worst things about modern football.

[Dutch Uncle]

Hamilton  - I agree if the keeper has gone off. If the keeper is treated on field after injury caused by opposition foul play then any messages can be brought on by the medical staff and the players huddle around the keeper.

[VikingRich]

In fairness I do recall GM and the team doing that with TLT at Crawley the year we lost to Crewe in the playoffs.

[In the box]

Time to change the rules IMHO.

Either - the keeper goes off for treatment and has a delay before coming back on like any outfield player, or they sub the goalkeeper. If the team concerned chooses not to sub and gives the gloves temporarily to an outfield player, they have to wait for a break in play before the gloves can be swapped back to the returning 'injured' keeper.

Does not apply if injury to keeper arises from a physical clash with an opposing player resulting in a free kick to the keeper's team.

When goal keepers go down injured all players should not be allowed to move to side of the pitch but remain on their side centre circle and no contact with manager or trainers until the half time has been blown .

[mushRTID]

Time to change the rules IMHO.

Either - the keeper goes off for treatment and has a delay before coming back on like any outfield player, or they sub the goalkeeper. If the team concerned chooses not to sub and gives the gloves temporarily to an outfield player, they have to wait for a break in play before the gloves can be swapped back to the returning 'injured' keeper.

Does not apply if injury to keeper arises from a physical clash with an opposing player resulting in a free kick to the keeper's team.

When goal keepers go down injured all players should not be allowed to move to side of the pitch but remain on their side centre circle and no contact with manager or trainers until the half time has been blown .

It’s really this simple.

[karldew]

The captain should take the keepers 30 seconds off the pitch, if the keeper is the captain a player should be nominated before kick off. EASY

[drfchound]

Goodman applied the same fake an injury antic in front of the south stand last season when playing for Wimbledon.

[Filo]

Goodman applied the same fake an injury antic in front of the south stand last season when playing for Wimbledon.

Same leg and same stretch as well

[phil o sophical]

If we are waiting for for the F.A to introduce laws to cut out the cheating and play acting we will be waiting a very long time

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Time to change the rules IMHO.

Either - the keeper goes off for treatment and has a delay before coming back on like any outfield player, or they sub the goalkeeper. If the team concerned chooses not to sub and gives the gloves temporarily to an outfield player, they have to wait for a break in play before the gloves can be swapped back to the returning 'injured' keeper.

Does not apply if injury to keeper arises from a physical clash with an opposing player resulting in a free kick to the keeper's team.   

I agree, but would probably suggest that if a GK goes down injured, then the outfield players are not permitted to go within 20-30 yards of the technical area until the game re-starts.

This is probably the most practical deterrent however, it also needs to apply to all injuries as outfield players could and do feign injury too.

But, there maybe genuine injuries, some taking a while to sort out. Do we still insist players remain infield without contact with the bench?

[Donnywolf]

The captain should take the keepers 30 seconds off the pitch, if the keeper is the captain a player should be nominated before kick off. EASY

I agree to a point. As I watched last night and saw that charade I thought , why not make the Captain go off but in my case I said 3 minutes

I had not brained the fact that the Captain COULD be the Keeper and I would say in that case let the opposing Captain choose the player to leave the pitch for the 3 minutes

The timing of the 3 minutes should be done by 4th official with a stop watch that he stops when the ball goes out and restarts when it goes back in.

It's yet another ugly unnecessary blot on the so called "beautiful game" .

[karldew]

On a flip side of this, I don’t believe a player who has had treatment should be off the pitch for 30 seconds IF the player who tackled them received a card.

[drfchound]

The captain should take the keepers 30 seconds off the pitch, if the keeper is the captain a player should be nominated before kick off. EASY

I agree to a point. As I watched last night and saw that charade I thought , why not make the Captain go off but in my case I said 3 minutes

I had not brained the fact that the Captain COULD be the Keeper and I would say in that case let the opposing Captain choose the player to leave the pitch for the 3 minutes

The timing of the 3 minutes should be done by 4th official with a stop watch that he stops when the ball goes out and restarts when it goes back in.

It's yet another ugly unnecessary blot on the so called "beautiful game" .

Wolfie, your post above reminded me that when they announced the added on time would be four minutes last night the ball was out of play.
Goodman then went to get the ball to take the goal kick and 50 seconds passed before the ball was back in play.
Other stoppages and throw ins happened and i reckon that the ball was only in play for about 90 seconds of the four minutes.

[ForsolongaRover]

Time to change the rules IMHO.

Either - the keeper goes off for treatment and has a delay before coming back on like any outfield player, or they sub the goalkeeper. If the team concerned chooses not to sub and gives the gloves temporarily to an outfield player, they have to wait for a break in play before the gloves can be swapped back to the returning 'injured' keeper.

Does not apply if injury to keeper arises from a physical clash with an opposing player resulting in a free kick to the keeper's team.   

I agree, but would probably suggest that if a GK goes down injured, then the outfield players are not permitted to go within 20-30 yards of the technical area until the game re-starts.

This is probably the most practical deterrent however, it also needs to apply to all injuries as outfield players could and do feign injury too.

But, there maybe genuine injuries, some taking a while to sort out. Do we still insist players remain infield without contact with the bench?

The mid game conference is a relatively new thing and resembles the “time-out” usually in sports which originated in North America. Since “time-outs” are not a feature of football and artificial practices which are currently used to effectively enable them cannot be legislated against, a ban on conferences with the bench should be introduced. Messages are not preventable, but group talks have greater value because they can be “question and answer”. The American influence has not infiltrated either Rugby or cricket (as far as I know) and it’s irritating to think that football is so swayed by their practices. Of course, going way back, the manager used to remain seated on the bench with the “Trainer” and his magic sponge.

On a previous thread on this subject I favoured the suggestion that an outfield player would have to leave the field in lieu of the GK, so there was a “cost”.

[Alan Southstand]

The new rule should be take the keeper off for treatment and put the No2 on. If they don’t have a No2, then put an outfield player in goal. They’ll soon pack that idea in, then.

[Donnywolf]

That is right. The end game , however it is brought , about is to STOP this practice DEAD

Make it have consequences and they will have to stop ( or in practical terms ) find another way

[IDM]

On a flip side of this, I don’t believe a player who has had treatment should be off the pitch for 30 seconds IF the player who tackled them received a card.

I think this is correct.

My thoughts.?

If a goalie gets treated on the pitch by the physio, he goes off for the time deemed necessary by the officials - unless it’s the consequence of a foul.  No temporary sub, tough.

If the ref is convinced the goalie is faking injury (or any other player) to gain some tactical advantage or time out, it should be considered ungentlemanly conduct and a yellow card shown.

[Ian Nimmo]

It’s becoming a joke and needs to be stopped, I believe the easiest way to make a change would be that if a keeper goes down, the players should be restricted from joining the management team.
Whilst a keeper can also go down just to break up play and slow the game down, it’s important that the ref added on the appropriate extra time.
Far too often is does appear that the extra time being played is insufficient.

[i_ateallthepies]

I agree with the players being confined to their half of the centre circle.  I also think the time the penalised player is required to remain of the field should be equal to the time taken between stoppage of play for 'treatment' of the injured person and restarting of play after the person leaves the field of play.