Spurs Date

[DonnyBazR0ver]

No, the point is, you didnt have all the information to hand, to have made the assessment in the first place.

Now, with all the information that you have now, let's say it's your decision and you have to pay Spurs the compensation for unsold tickets, are you going to choose the allocation you're confident of selling, or the one you think we might?

It's your call.

I said earlier on in the thread I thought taking the lower amount was a mistake.

Despite, in my opinion, it being obvious there would be huge demand for these tickets, the club have now put themselves in a position of turning away up to 1,900 rovers fans who wanted to experience this once in a generation event.

Forget about the penny pinching worrying about unsold tickets, the club have potentially now cost themselves around £20k? in lost revenue, and pissed off a good chunk of fans in the process.

How do you come to that conclusion about revenue without all the information to hand?

I'm sure the people at the club weighed everything up and came to a common sense decision.

Why do you think the same people at the club made the decision about the Arsenal allocation? Do you think they assessed that one responsibly? 

Do you really think they've deliberately penny pinched? For all the good that's happening at the club at the moment, I seriously doubt penny pinching is at the forefront of their minds.

[Ldr]

There will be a lot of “I’ve not got a ticket therefore the club are at fault” posts over the coming days

[DonnyBazR0ver]

As others have said, the priority system is a fair one. If there are fans who attend around ten home games a season, then they could have put themselves further up the list, rather than wait for general sale.

How would they do this?

I think the Points system is largely sound, but it does feel like it's missing another purchase cut-off beneath 25 points, as currently if you've made it to 20 matches you've no greater standing than someone who hasn't been to any.

Unless there's something I've missed.

Memberships and Flexi ticket holders bump up to above general sale don't they?

The basic membership where you get about £4 off each game you attend. Used to be £20 to buy, not sure what it is now.

Every season there's two cups where we could get a plum draw. It's up to every one of us to assess how important that is to us and the risk of missing out.

[RoversInSpain]

The club are instigating a waiting list apparently, just  call the box office to add yourself on. So perhaps there is some chance of an additional batch.
For the record I have zero points and got a ticket.
I’ve had an IFollow and Rovers+ season viewing pass for probably about 5 or 6 years and seen pretty much every match live…. Yet I have zero points, but that’s a conversation for another time.

[VivaRovers]

As others have said, the priority system is a fair one. If there are fans who attend around ten home games a season, then they could have put themselves further up the list, rather than wait for general sale.

How would they do this?

I think the Points system is largely sound, but it does feel like it's missing another purchase cut-off beneath 25 points, as currently if you've made it to 20 matches you've no greater standing than someone who hasn't been to any.

Unless there's something I've missed.

Memberships and Flexi ticket holders bump up to above general sale don't they?

The basic membership where you get about £4 off each game you attend. Used to be £20 to buy, not sure what it is now.

Every season there's two cups where we could get a plum draw. It's up to every one of us to assess how important that is to us and the risk of missing out.

Yeah that's fair, but I think a problem with all the ways of 'putting yourself further up the list' is that they're geared around home game attendance. And the points issue is one that affects away game attendance.

I appreciate there's never going to be a system that suits all fans, but I do feel the jump between 25 points and 0 points is too large a step, considering what is needed to attain those points. Had there been a 10 or 15 points and upwards bracket on this fixture (or similar fixtures with likely low general sale availability) then there'd probably be a lot less complaints.

[donnievic]

Finally did the son-in-law’s on the phone after an hour wait.
Hope we give Spurs a pumping after their greed with the tickets.

why is it greed by spurs

[donnievic]

Very very frustrating, given we are entitled to 10% capacity as per the competition rules.

Let's hope the club go back to spurs to request the full allocation.

im not so sure it is 10% in this competition unlike the fa cup,league cup i think maybe  10% or minimum 2000 which ever is the smallest

[scawsby steve]

There’ll be 25k to30k seats empty on the night

That would mean a crowd of 30k to 35k. I reckon there'll be way more than that.

40k at least, but probably more.

[Draytonian III]

There will be 50,000+ at Tottenham, because they operate a point’s system as well, in fact all clubs do one way or another. Tottenham supporters will spend £30 for a ticket or £10 for a junior one to top their points up

[normal rules]

There will be 50,000+ at Tottenham, because they operate a point’s system as well, in fact all clubs do one way or another. Tottenham supporters will spend £30 for a ticket or £10 for a junior one to top their points up

This. I believe this game for spurs adds an extra 4points to their individual tally. As a sth holder that keeps them high up when it comes to European games tickets. There will be a big crowd at this one. And it’s a night game which means the light show will be used. Which looks amazing on the YouTube clips .

[Padge_DRFC]

I never expected 4k to sell out as quick as it did especially on a Wednesday night down in London.

[KingKendrick]

As others have said, the priority system is a fair one. If there are fans who attend around ten home games a season, then they could have put themselves further up the list, rather than wait for general sale.

How would they do this?

I think the Points system is largely sound, but it does feel like it's missing another purchase cut-off beneath 25 points, as currently if you've made it to 20 matches you've no greater standing than someone who hasn't been to any.

Unless there's something I've missed.

Memberships and Flexi ticket holders bump up to above general sale don't they?

The basic membership where you get about £4 off each game you attend. Used to be £20 to buy, not sure what it is now.

Every season there's two cups where we could get a plum draw. It's up to every one of us to assess how important that is to us and the risk of missing out.

Yeah that's fair, but I think a problem with all the ways of 'putting yourself further up the list' is that they're geared around home game attendance. And the points issue is one that affects away game attendance.

I appreciate there's never going to be a system that suits all fans, but I do feel the jump between 25 points and 0 points is too large a step, considering what is needed to attain those points. Had there been a 10 or 15 points and upwards bracket on this fixture (or similar fixtures with likely low general sale availability) then there'd probably be a lot less complaints.

Equally a flexi ticket over the 2 seasons would get you to 10/15/20 points which is more than reasonable to ask a fan to go to 5 games a season

[karldew]

As others have said, the priority system is a fair one. If there are fans who attend around ten home games a season, then they could have put themselves further up the list, rather than wait for general sale.

How would they do this?

I think the Points system is largely sound, but it does feel like it's missing another purchase cut-off beneath 25 points, as currently if you've made it to 20 matches you've no greater standing than someone who hasn't been to any.

Unless there's something I've missed.

Memberships and Flexi ticket holders bump up to above general sale don't they?

The basic membership where you get about £4 off each game you attend. Used to be £20 to buy, not sure what it is now.

Every season there's two cups where we could get a plum draw. It's up to every one of us to assess how important that is to us and the risk of missing out.

Yeah that's fair, but I think a problem with all the ways of 'putting yourself further up the list' is that they're geared around home game attendance. And the points issue is one that affects away game attendance.

I appreciate there's never going to be a system that suits all fans, but I do feel the jump between 25 points and 0 points is too large a step, considering what is needed to attain those points. Had there been a 10 or 15 points and upwards bracket on this fixture (or similar fixtures with likely low general sale availability) then there'd probably be a lot less complaints.

There’s been 10 days between first sale and general sale for the Wigan game and 9 days for the Luton game. If anything ST to general sale should be quicker! we’ve got that many categories for points/memberships it’s daft, adding a 10-15 would make it even worse.

[mushRTID]

When we’ve got 3900 tickets, why not just allow the points covering the first 3000 tickets on sale all at the same time. Allowing more people to get tickets with who they want instead of hanging on.
Far too many categories when we got so many tickets.

[normal rules]

When we’ve got 3900 tickets, why not just allow the points covering the first 3000 tickets on sale all at the same time. Allowing more people to get tickets with who they want instead of hanging on.
Far too many categories when we got so many tickets.

In total there was around 5200 tickets holders eligible for pre general
Sale purchase.

[Padge_DRFC]

When we’ve got 3900 tickets, why not just allow the points covering the first 3000 tickets on sale all at the same time. Allowing more people to get tickets with who they want instead of hanging on.
Far too many categories when we got so many tickets.

In total there was around 5200 tickets holders eligible for pre general
Sale purchase.

So much for season ticket sales being 30% up then. Basically max 5200 have STs. You get 25 points for having 1

[GazLaz]

When we’ve got 3900 tickets, why not just allow the points covering the first 3000 tickets on sale all at the same time. Allowing more people to get tickets with who they want instead of hanging on.
Far too many categories when we got so many tickets.

Think the theory behind it is that the higher points people get the first choice of where they sit.

[Padge_DRFC]

Huddersfield was a free for all in the end. Will this be?

Suppose it doesn't matter with it being safe standing and people bickering

[idler]

Finally did the son-in-law’s on the phone after an hour wait.
Hope we give Spurs a pumping after their greed with the tickets.

why is it greed by spurs

In my opinion a club that rakes in millions from the Premier League, European football, tv money advertising and sponsorship are quibbling about 1,900 tickets. I don’t know how much it would cost to open up that amount of seating or part of it but they would be making the ticket money to offset further expense. That seems greedy to me.

[IDM]

Are they quibbling over those tickets.?  I thought our club didn’t ask for them.?

As for folks missing out, let’s say if we had got the extra 1900, what if only 500 people wanted  them.?  That’s 1400 the club has to pay for.??

[Jenny]

Looks like they massively underestimated the demand.

Don't exaggerate. If just shy of 1000 have gone to general sale then those most regular of supporters have got tickets if they wanted them.

Right are we saying now as a club and a fan base that the only people that have a right to away tickets are those that can afford/have time to go regularly? Talk about a club shooting itself in the foot.

Especially when we all know that it's not like Spurs are going to sell out their allocation to see us play. We could have sold out 5000 tickets and that more money for the club.

Me and several of my mates who can't go regularly were planning on going out of our way to get to this and I'm sure we weren't the only ones. A night at a prem club, especially one of the London clubs, could have potentially pulled quite a lot of extra fans and possibly quite a few neutrals and casual fans. This is nothing but short sighted as far as I can see

Not saying that at all. If you were to read the whole thread, there's some reasoning why the club went for the 3900 allocation.  You, nor I, have no idea how many more than the 3900 could have been sold. If it was a case of being able to request additional blocks by block, then the decision would have been alot easier to assess.

As others have said, the priority system is a fair one. If there are fans who attend around ten home games a season, then they could have put themselves further up the list, rather than wait for general sale.

Yes, but the point is we COULD have had more tickets if the club wanted.
People are missing out.

Mansfield took 6000 to Everton new stadium, did they f**k about with limited ticket numbers ? No they took the whole allocation. 

Mansfield didn't take 6000 to Everton, what they got was their core fan base and then a load of ground hoppers who wanted to tick the ground off.... I know someone who did it and he said the atmosphere was a bit weird in the away end and clear that there was hundreds with no interest in supporting Mansfield.

The same would have happened with us at Spurs with a larger allocation, especially given that typically you have to be a member at Spurs to get a home ticket which costs a fair whack

[idler]

Are they quibbling over those tickets.?  I thought our club didn’t ask for them.?

As for folks missing out, let’s say if we had got the extra 1900, what if only 500 people wanted  them.?  That’s 1400 the club has to pay for.??

That is the point I am trying to make. Spurs with their millions not releasing say an extra 500 or 1,000. Wanting us to stand the potential cost of unsold tickets rather than being happy to just make a smaller profit on an extra thousand or so extra fans.

[Draytonian III]

Looks like they massively underestimated the demand.

Don't exaggerate. If just shy of 1000 have gone to general sale then those most regular of supporters have got tickets if they wanted them.

Right are we saying now as a club and a fan base that the only people that have a right to away tickets are those that can afford/have time to go regularly? Talk about a club shooting itself in the foot.

Especially when we all know that it's not like Spurs are going to sell out their allocation to see us play. We could have sold out 5000 tickets and that more money for the club.

Me and several of my mates who can't go regularly were planning on going out of our way to get to this and I'm sure we weren't the only ones. A night at a prem club, especially one of the London clubs, could have potentially pulled quite a lot of extra fans and possibly quite a few neutrals and casual fans. This is nothing but short sighted as far as I can see

Not saying that at all. If you were to read the whole thread, there's some reasoning why the club went for the 3900 allocation.  You, nor I, have no idea how many more than the 3900 could have been sold. If it was a case of being able to request additional blocks by block, then the decision would have been alot easier to assess.

As others have said, the priority system is a fair one. If there are fans who attend around ten home games a season, then they could have put themselves further up the list, rather than wait for general sale.

Yes, but the point is we COULD have had more tickets if the club wanted.
People are missing out.

Mansfield took 6000 to Everton new stadium, did they f**k about with limited ticket numbers ? No they took the whole allocation. 

Mansfield didn't take 6000 to Everton, what they got was their core fan base and then a load of ground hoppers who wanted to tick the ground off.... I know someone who did it and he said the atmosphere was a bit weird in the away end and clear that there was hundreds with no interest in supporting Mansfield.

The same would have happened with us at Spurs with a larger allocation, especially given that typically you have to be a member at Spurs to get a home ticket which costs a fair whack

I know a few Mansfield supporters and they said the same, loads of Groundhoppers ticking the new ground off because they won’t be able to get in for a league match

[bpoolrover]

As others have said, the priority system is a fair one. If there are fans who attend around ten home games a season, then they could have put themselves further up the list, rather than wait for general sale.

How would they do this?

I think the Points system is largely sound, but it does feel like it's missing another purchase cut-off beneath 25 points, as currently if you've made it to 20 matches you've no greater standing than someone who hasn't been to any.

Unless there's something I've missed.

Memberships and Flexi ticket holders bump up to above general sale don't they?

The basic membership where you get about £4 off each game you attend. Used to be £20 to buy, not sure what it is now.

Every season there's two cups where we could get a plum draw. It's up to every one of us to assess how important that is to us and the risk of missing out.

Yeah that's fair, but I think a problem with all the ways of 'putting yourself further up the list' is that they're geared around home game attendance. And the points issue is one that affects away game attendance.

I appreciate there's never going to be a system that suits all fans, but I do feel the jump between 25 points and 0 points is too large a step, considering what is needed to attain those points. Had there been a 10 or 15 points and upwards bracket on this fixture (or similar fixtures with likely low general sale availability) then there'd probably be a lot less complaints.

There’s been 10 days between first sale and general sale for the Wigan game and 9 days for the Luton game. If anything ST to general sale should be quicker! we’ve got that many categories for points/memberships it’s daft, adding a 10-15 would make it even worse.

have to agree st to general sale is to long a wait, i had to wait for general sale for the accy game amd there was not enough time to post the tickets out and a 240 mile round trip to pick up tickets is out of the question

[DonnyBazR0ver]

Are they quibbling over those tickets.?  I thought our club didn’t ask for them.?

As for folks missing out, let’s say if we had got the extra 1900, what if only 500 people wanted  them.?  That’s 1400 the club has to pay for.??

That is the point I am trying to make. Spurs with their millions not releasing say an extra 500 or 1,000. Wanting us to stand the potential cost of unsold tickets rather than being happy to just make a smaller profit on an extra thousand or so extra fans.

It could be due to the logistics of seperaring the concourses and maybe on different levels.

As others have eluded to, once we take our location, they will then take those sections to sell to their own fans in the knowledge they have a huge waiting list.

[Padge_DRFC]

Does everyone know it's standing as well?

[Donnywolf]

According to the DROS site Rows 1 to 6 in every block are "reserved" for those who wish to sit

I've gone for 118 which is on the side and chose Row 6 ( way lower than I would normally go ) to "heed" the warning re the people who wish to use "Safe standing" and hope we "play the game" both on and off the Field

[Jenny]

I don't think it'll happen, if you looked at the available seats when it reached general same many of them were low down and those who bought them may wish to stand . I very much doubt it will be enforced, and neither should it be in my opinion. And that's the issue with self standing when no alternative is given.... It doesnt work for everyone and it's why we decided against taking the kids

[idler]

We are in row 2 so shouldn’t have a problem. I would struggle to stand for 90 odd minutes these days and I’m sure that quite a few others fall into that category and chose the seated area for this reason.if it is unallocated then those wanting to stand should always be at the back or as high as possible. At Sutton and Salford I managed to lean on a barrier and have a decent view but it is harder in seats. I do stand when we score or a near miss and when players come on are as subbed but unfortunately 90 minutes is too long these days.

[Donnywolf]

Ironically it says 118 is Seated fans only but Rovers chose to go their own way it seems

I've also read on Ticket I think persistent standing is not allowed or prohibited but whether that is 118 ONLY we will have to see