Clifton

[Barmby Rover]

If only Clifton had stopped O'Riordan from slipping and taking that awful touch. If only Clifton had been behind McGrath when he kicked thin air instead of the ball.

Signs have been there all season. 30 good minutes v Bradford, Rotherham and Burton. Other than that...

It's about what Clifton brings to the team in terms of harrying the opposition and putting them under pressure.

Individuals are always going to make mistakes. The point is, they maker fewer mistakes if we have players who help us to put the opposition under physical pressure more than they do to us. That is what Clifton brings to the squad and the lack of it over the past month has been wince-inducing to watch.

It is surprising how you don't know what you've got till it's gone to quote Joni Mitchell. It may be coincidence that this downturn has come as we lost Harry Clifton, a member of the squad that many have derided and underestimated. He does a vital job when he plays.

[Chris Black come back]

I doubt you can find a game in recent years with so many rank amateur individual defensive errors.

[dickos1]

In recent years? How far you going back?
Even last season we had some games where we performed very poorly defensively
Folk have short memories when it suits

[Janso]

In recent years? How far you going back?
Even last season we had some games where we performed very poorly defensively
Folk have short memories when it suits

"We were shite last season as well" isn't really the response you probably thought it was.