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Al4475

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Re: A decade later and finally the truth comes out
« Reply #90 on October 06, 2025, 12:52:45 pm by Al4475 »
Sadly, and in hindsight of knowing as many of the ins and outs at the time as was possible, JR was always involved with (as politely as poss) 'dodgy' people.

I believe, had The Conference had the same level of 'right and proper ownership' protocols as the FL -JR wouldn't have been allowed to take the reigns in the first place.

It is going to be a sad day and a real eye opener for many people when Martin, Rob, TB, GB and other folk involved with the club at the time (like Liam Scully, as an example) can start publicising the information.
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graingrover

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Re: A decade later and finally the truth comes out
« Reply #91 on October 06, 2025, 04:25:29 pm by graingrover »
I understand what is being intimated about JR but I think the people you quote will have too much class and respect for the good things John did to try to destroy his reputation .It is not a characteristic that is consistent with the club’s management and key Influencers .

BobG

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Re: A decade later and finally the truth comes out
« Reply #92 on October 08, 2025, 02:08:53 pm by BobG »
I've always wondered, Brian, just how much of what has happened in the past is actually history re-written. Truth, indubitably, is not absolute. But I dislike seeing it be re-written before my own eyes.

Bob

Hickleton Rover

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Re: A decade later and finally the truth comes out
« Reply #93 on October 08, 2025, 05:46:28 pm by Hickleton Rover »
Both me and my dad were shareholders and in one particular meeting couldn't understand why JR was blocking everything Ken Richardson tried to do, later we realized he was trying to stop the club going to a bunch of crooks so I firmly believe JR had the clubs interest at heart, he just didn't have the money to take us to the top end of championship

DearneValleyRover

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Re: A decade later and finally the truth comes out
« Reply #94 on October 08, 2025, 06:48:27 pm by DearneValleyRover »
Both me and my dad were shareholders and in one particular meeting couldn't understand why JR was blocking everything Ken Richardson tried to do, later we realized he was trying to stop the club going to a bunch of crooks so I firmly believe JR had the clubs interest at heart, he just didn't have the money to take us to the top end of championship

JR had JR interests at heart, nothing more and nothing less

i_ateallthepies

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Re: A decade later and finally the truth comes out
« Reply #95 on October 08, 2025, 07:12:58 pm by i_ateallthepies »
I came to think that JR's primary motive for his ownership of the club was to satisfy his narcissism but whether that is fair on JR or not what can't be disputed is that he put a great deal of his personal wealth into the club and we the supporters had a whale of a time whilst it lasted.

TonySoprano

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Re: A decade later and finally the truth comes out
« Reply #96 on October 09, 2025, 11:42:58 am by TonySoprano »
Both me and my dad were shareholders and in one particular meeting couldn't understand why JR was blocking everything Ken Richardson tried to do, later we realized he was trying to stop the club going to a bunch of crooks so I firmly believe JR had the clubs interest at heart, he just didn't have the money to take us to the top end of championship

JR had JR interests at heart, nothing more and nothing less

Ok then, if he didn't have the clubs interests at heart and only his own. What were they? What were his motives?

DearneValleyRover

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Re: A decade later and finally the truth comes out
« Reply #97 on October 09, 2025, 12:16:45 pm by DearneValleyRover »
Both me and my dad were shareholders and in one particular meeting couldn't understand why JR was blocking everything Ken Richardson tried to do, later we realized he was trying to stop the club going to a bunch of crooks so I firmly believe JR had the clubs interest at heart, he just didn't have the money to take us to the top end of championship

JR had JR interests at heart, nothing more and nothing less

Ok then, if he didn't have the clubs interests at heart and only his own. What were they? What were his motives?

He wanted his moment in the sun, to play Football Manager with other people’s money.

TonySoprano

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Re: A decade later and finally the truth comes out
« Reply #98 on October 09, 2025, 12:25:21 pm by TonySoprano »
Both me and my dad were shareholders and in one particular meeting couldn't understand why JR was blocking everything Ken Richardson tried to do, later we realized he was trying to stop the club going to a bunch of crooks so I firmly believe JR had the clubs interest at heart, he just didn't have the money to take us to the top end of championship

JR had JR interests at heart, nothing more and nothing less

Ok then, if he didn't have the clubs interests at heart and only his own. What were they? What were his motives?

He wanted his moment in the sun, to play Football Manager with other people’s money.

And when he was the owner and saved the club ?

DearneValleyRover

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Re: A decade later and finally the truth comes out
« Reply #99 on October 09, 2025, 03:09:47 pm by DearneValleyRover »
Both me and my dad were shareholders and in one particular meeting couldn't understand why JR was blocking everything Ken Richardson tried to do, later we realized he was trying to stop the club going to a bunch of crooks so I firmly believe JR had the clubs interest at heart, he just didn't have the money to take us to the top end of championship

JR had JR interests at heart, nothing more and nothing less

Ok then, if he didn't have the clubs interests at heart and only his own. What were they? What were his motives?

He wanted his moment in the sun, to play Football Manager with other people’s money.

And when he was the owner and saved the club ?

You will have to wait for further answers as I’ve been asked to stay quiet until all the legal proceedings have finished.

TommyC

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Re: A decade later and finally the truth comes out
« Reply #100 on October 09, 2025, 06:40:33 pm by TommyC »
It's hardly unreasonable for a local boy done good like JR to treat himself to the ultimate plaything by acquiring his hometown club. He saw an opportunity to buy us when we were at rock bottom and he was wealthy enough at that time to take us on a hell of a ride. I'd expect ego/narcissism whatever you want to call it plays its part as I would imagine it does with any big ticket purchase! It would be daft to suggest that JR only did what he did out of purely charitable reasons. He's a businessman first and foremost. In his position I'd do the same!

What i understand however is that irrespective of his motives as to why he bought the club, when he walked away, he wrote off £4 million in loans that were due to him. I dont begrudge him his ego/narcissim if that's the case.

He's not a philanthropist and has never pretended to be.

 

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