Owls

[Dagenham Rover]

Basket case  Sheff Weds not paying players this month again and possibly not paying non playing staff 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1wg43zl49wo?fbclid=IwZnRzaANHkKxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmo-a_rOm506FNMPK_x-Wnh294IurJKDfyzeQAhRAVUN7cQErPmaAvSukBH6_aem_jT534pfaBKd9dU8n0iBOVA&fbclid=IwY2xjawNHlsJleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETB1amE4U28yc2I3ZUN2eWpXAR6fQiPbyUB-urK57-o6pXS30sBC_7whOjyCebOL5K5hHufoAaMWsdpSuPflcQ_aem_sksEKE-kfkGNrT1zGm0S6g

[Barmby Rover]

Any club in Lg.1 or 2 would have been closed down by now, this joke of a club is not worth preserving.

[jmt23]

As much as i don’t like them from a friendly fan rivalry, I do feel for the fans.

We should remember not in the too distant past we were in a very similar position.

[rich1471]

Think a funding page has been set up for non playing staff,they have bills to pay ,these are the people you feel sorry for

[dknward2]

Can't believe anyone still trusts him to be paid surely most will leave their jobs to work anywhere else

[Usher wide.]

They have an owner who £££’s wise is head & shoulders above Terry.

What you sow. Feel sorry for the ‘average Joe’ who has attended games since the 70’s & beyond, as for the club….it’s thankfully not mine.

[karldew]

First team to end a season on minus points??

[LincsRover]

1/16 at bet365 to be relegated!

[Avsuptem]

I thought Sheffield Wednesday players had another way of getting paid.

[Smyth]

They have an owner who £££’s wise is head & shoulders above Terry.

He very much isn't,  however that isn't the point,  T. Bramall is putting money in, hence promotion last season,  money invested in the stadium and training ground as well as into the team this season.
Wednesday owner isn't putting any money in, which is from where their current problems stem.

[GazLaz]

They have an owner who £££’s wise is head & shoulders above Terry.

What you sow. Feel sorry for the ‘average Joe’ who has attended games since the 70’s & beyond, as for the club….it’s thankfully not mine.

He’s not though is he. He has very little money hence the hand to mouth situation at Wednesday. He’s skint.

[MachoMadness]

They have an owner who £££’s wise is head & shoulders above Terry.

What you sow. Feel sorry for the ‘average Joe’ who has attended games since the 70’s & beyond, as for the club….it’s thankfully not mine.

His family is worth more than Terry. Dejphon Chansiri as an individual has never been clear about his personal financial situation though. No one knows how much he's really worth or where his money actually comes from.

Rumours from the Wednesday fans are that, due to the nature of the people he owes, he can't afford to sell the club for anything less than the inflated value he's asking for, which is why he's hanging on despite being potless.

[GazLaz]

They have an owner who £££’s wise is head & shoulders above Terry.

What you sow. Feel sorry for the ‘average Joe’ who has attended games since the 70’s & beyond, as for the club….it’s thankfully not mine.

His family is worth more than Terry. Dejphon Chansiri as an individual has never been clear about his personal financial situation though. No one knows how much he's really worth or where his money actually comes from.

Rumours from the Wednesday fans are that, due to the nature of the people he owes, he can't afford to sell the club for anything less than the inflated value he's asking for, which is why he's hanging on despite being potless.

The family are not incredibly wealthy either.  £400m their business is worth I believe. He’s a 1% share holder I think! There’s just no liquid cash to keep the club going.

[MachoMadness]

I do remember seeing the TUG business had taken a kicking in recent years, didn't realise it was that much though. Does make you wonder why he's clinging on at all, unless he really does owe some unsavoury people.

[rich1471]

1/16 at bet365 to be relegated!

Had them @4/9 before a ball was kicked with all the issues it looks a dead cert

[GazLaz]

I do remember seeing the TUG business had taken a kicking in recent years, didn't realise it was that much though. Does make you wonder why he's clinging on at all, unless he really does owe some unsavoury people.

He’s looking for an inflated amount from the sale. Greed, desperation, who knows.

[selby]

  In 1992 they were founding members of the premier league, and they were not bothered one iota what happened to any other small club in the country in fact have always and while they exist will always welcome every supporter from the Doncaster area with open arms.
 I have no sympathy with anything that happens to them, the same stance they took when clubs like Hereford, Chester, Bradford Park Avenue were shown when they hit difficulties, which from clubs like Sheffield Wednesday was the square root of FA.

[Stocksbridge Owl]

Things are very, very bad thats for sure.

One of the most difficult and frustrating things is actually getting to the truth about what’s going on at the club. Thanks to the joy that is social media it’s very difficult to get to know what’s the truth and what’s not.

The stadium is falling apart, the team is one of the worst that I’ve ever seen, we’ve no money, under a transfer embargo, we have an owner digging his heels in and the fans are boycotting home games.

I genuinely wouldn’t be shocked if we don't see the season out.

[Stocksbridge Owl]

  In 1992 they were founding members of the premier league, and they were not bothered one iota what happened to any other small club in the country in fact have always and while they exist will always welcome every supporter from the Doncaster area with open arms.
 I have no sympathy with anything that happens to them, the same stance they took when clubs like Hereford, Chester, Bradford Park Avenue were shown when they hit difficulties, which from clubs like Sheffield Wednesday was the square root of FA.

I have to take issue with this. When Rovers were having their difficulties in the 90’s what should Wednesday, or any other club, have done? When Rovers were relegated to the conference, I’m pretty sure that Wednesday (and the other South Yorkshire clubs) all released statements in the Star in support of them returning to the football league asap. Short of that there wasn’t a great deal else that they could do?

I agree that the FA were, and are, insipid at best but the issues affecting clubs isn't the fault of Wednesday or anyone else.

I don’t know of any Wednesday supporter that I knew taking any pleasure in the plight of Rovers or any other club in peril of going out of business. In fact, as I recall there was a lot of sympathy for the Rovers at the time. Sure, you’ll get the odd idiot at every club, but generally speaking I remember people feeling quite sad at what was going on at Belle Vue. Again though, what else could we do?

Players, owners and staff at the clubs will be able to move onto other things, but as fans we are stuck with the club who we support. Whatever happens.

As for Wednesday opening their arms to any supporters from the Doncaster area, again what should the club do? Ban supporters who don’t live in Sheffield?

What’s going on at Wednesday right now should put the fear of god into every football fan in the country as it could easily happen to any club at any time.

[Bessie Red]

As much as i don’t like them from a friendly fan rivalry, I do feel for the fans.

We should remember not in the too distant past we were in a very similar position.

They never lifted a finger to help us back in our dark days, Sheff Utd on the other hand did.

[BillyStubbsTears]

SO
What’s going on at Wednesday right now should put the fear of god into every football fan in the country as it could easily happen to any club at any time.

Yep. We know. We had our own episode a generation ago. For some inexplicable reason, it didn't put the fear of god into many fans of bigger clubs.

I wouldn't wish what we went through on ANY other set of fans. Genuinely.

But let's be honest. If we had gone under, who else would have really cared?  We were, at best, a subject of momentary sympathy before other fans went back to their interests in their own clubs.

I think that experience gave a bit of a steely hardness to many of us older Donny fans. If SWFC go under, it'd be a shame. And I would genuinely feel for your fans. For a bit anyway.

[Filo]

  In 1992 they were founding members of the premier league, and they were not bothered one iota what happened to any other small club in the country in fact have always and while they exist will always welcome every supporter from the Doncaster area with open arms.
 I have no sympathy with anything that happens to them, the same stance they took when clubs like Hereford, Chester, Bradford Park Avenue were shown when they hit difficulties, which from clubs like Sheffield Wednesday was the square root of FA.

I have to take issue with this. When Rovers were having their difficulties in the 90’s what should Wednesday, or any other club, have done? When Rovers were relegated to the conference, I’m pretty sure that Wednesday (and the other South Yorkshire clubs) all released statements in the Star in support of them returning to the football league asap. Short of that there wasn’t a great deal else that they could do?

I agree that the FA were, and are, insipid at best but the issues affecting clubs isn't the fault of Wednesday or anyone else.

I don’t know of any Wednesday supporter that I knew taking any pleasure in the plight of Rovers or any other club in peril of going out of business. In fact, as I recall there was a lot of sympathy for the Rovers at the time. Sure, you’ll get the odd idiot at every club, but generally speaking I remember people feeling quite sad at what was going on at Belle Vue. Again though, what else could we do?

Players, owners and staff at the clubs will be able to move onto other things, but as fans we are stuck with the club who we support. Whatever happens.

As for Wednesday opening their arms to any supporters from the Doncaster area, again what should the club do? Ban supporters who don’t live in Sheffield?

What’s going on at Wednesday right now should put the fear of god into every football fan in the country as it could easily happen to any club at any time.

Sheffield United helped us out, Wednesday did nothing, Rotherham fans spat in our collection buckets

[Spilsby Red]

Totally agree Filo. Only Sheff Utd stepped up. Not good for the fans but where was our support when we needed it. You rep what you sow. That’s why I drum into my lad, how blessed we are with our owners and staff.
Where were the big clubs with the likes of us, Bury, Boston, Macclesfield etc ( only the football authorities help the so called bigger clubs)

[ForsolongaRover]

We might hope that the new Regulations will improve the quality of owners, but surely no authority anywhere in the world can assess the true wealth (or lack of it) of likely prospective owners. I am not sure that any Government in a democratic country has that power on a practical level even over its own residents, and in relation to the assets situated within its borders. Even if governments assume massive powers of discovery and investigation, moneyed people tend to have complicated finances and therefore often potential disputed wealth or lack of it.

The best you might hope for is that the forthcoming tighter regulations here might deter the worst potential owners from attempting to buy clubs. Someone said fairly recently that Hubert Bates was the "owner" of Rovers whereas he was just the Chairman of a Board back in the days before clubs were the commercial businesses they are now. I was not aware that he had a controlling shareholding, but the club did not prosper whilst he was in that position.   

As Chairman, Frank Wilson did a far better job to further the club's fortunes in the McMenemy era. He will be remembered for the good times he brought whereas no one I knew had a good word to say about Mr Bates. Even in the pre-commercial era, not all those who served on boards prioritised the best interests of the club over their own. 

Perhaps the answer is a Supporter Cooperative (Trust) as an owner, but you wonder how they can potentially compete with the vast wealth of the top end of the English game and so far the model can only claim a handful of modest successes. Yet there is FC Barcelona and also Bayern Munich and other big Continental  European Clubs. I expect this debate has been held here before, but and perhaps it might be reignited in considering the post Bramall era. Exeter City have sustained themselves rising from the Conference to League 1 and AFC Wimbledon are a more recent modestly successful example and when all's said and done that is our current level too.

[Herbert Anchovy]

  In 1992 they were founding members of the premier league, and they were not bothered one iota what happened to any other small club in the country in fact have always and while they exist will always welcome every supporter from the Doncaster area with open arms.
 I have no sympathy with anything that happens to them, the same stance they took when clubs like Hereford, Chester, Bradford Park Avenue were shown when they hit difficulties, which from clubs like Sheffield Wednesday was the square root of FA.

I have to take issue with this. When Rovers were having their difficulties in the 90’s what should Wednesday, or any other club, have done? When Rovers were relegated to the conference, I’m pretty sure that Wednesday (and the other South Yorkshire clubs) all released statements in the Star in support of them returning to the football league asap. Short of that there wasn’t a great deal else that they could do?

I agree that the FA were, and are, insipid at best but the issues affecting clubs isn't the fault of Wednesday or anyone else.

I don’t know of any Wednesday supporter that I knew taking any pleasure in the plight of Rovers or any other club in peril of going out of business. In fact, as I recall there was a lot of sympathy for the Rovers at the time. Sure, you’ll get the odd idiot at every club, but generally speaking I remember people feeling quite sad at what was going on at Belle Vue. Again though, what else could we do?

Players, owners and staff at the clubs will be able to move onto other things, but as fans we are stuck with the club who we support. Whatever happens.

As for Wednesday opening their arms to any supporters from the Doncaster area, again what should the club do? Ban supporters who don’t live in Sheffield?

What’s going on at Wednesday right now should put the fear of god into every football fan in the country as it could easily happen to any club at any time.

Sheffield United helped us out, Wednesday did nothing, Rotherham fans spat in our collection buckets

Wednesdays offered to lend us some of their training gear. I also have a vague memory of them offering temporary use of their training ground too but I might be wrong on that point

[Sars]

Rotherham loaned us robert pell did they not for free

[BillyStubbsTears]

Ante raised.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c4g3x7ek4ggo

[MachoMadness]

Set to be placed into admin imminently according to a few local journos.

[vaya]

Set to be placed into admin imminently according to a few local journos.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c1lqmmml533o

[Smyth]

Won't be long till some Wednesday fans are claiming they'll soon be taken over by a multi billionaire and heading to be champions of Europe