Billy

[donnievic]

I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.

easy solution to do do with sumone else’s money though

[scawsby steve]

I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.

easy solution to do do with sumone else’s money though

Yes, Vic, but Terry has stated emphatically that he wants to leave a good legacy, which we assume to be Championship football, as is the desire of GM.

This won't happen without money. However, Terry has been known in the past to stump up in January. We can only hope.

[Padge_DRFC]

I imagine the chance was there, however if say 400k did it. You've missed out on signing 3 or 4 decent league 1 players on a free just on the transfer fee alone never mind the wages on top.

However some of the money on wages appears to be being wasted. Hanlan 2 weeks and not in the squad

[Spud]

I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.

Might be cheaper in the next window? Who knows....

[selby]

  Ever thought we haven't a sum they can't refuse? and going that way about things would bring the club down eventually and put's all the cards in Lincolns favour.
  I am sure that our chairman will back the manager if required for team building and the management team will have their targets and valuations for the next window to improve the team.

[GazLaz]

I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.

I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.

[Usher wide.]

I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.

I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.

No you’re right.

Why pay ‘hundreds of thousands’ for a player who we know would be more than capable of leading the line for us (as opposed to ‘channel running’) when as you allude to there are cheaper options out there. Like Hanlan & Olusanya.

As for Rob Street just having “….had the hottest goal scoring streak he will have in his career.” What do you base that ridiculous assumption on?

You might be correct if he’s given the job that Mols & Middleton’s have, running the channels i.e., wide players. But supposing a club buys him & their manager plays him in the role Billy occupies (please, please don’t pick up an injury Billy) for us now? Would you be willing to bet he wouldn’t score 20 goals in a full season as a No.9 in this division?

[GazLaz]

I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.

I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.

No you’re right.

Why pay ‘hundreds of thousands’ for a player who we know would be more than capable of leading the line for us (as opposed to ‘channel running’) when as you allude to there are cheaper options out there. Like Hanlan & Olusanya.

As for Rob Street just having “….had the hottest goal scoring streak he will have in his career.” What do you base that ridiculous assumption on?

You might be correct if he’s given the job that Mols & Middleton’s have, running the channels i.e., wide players. But supposing a club buys him & their manager plays him in the role Billy occupies (please, please don’t pick up an injury Billy) for us now? Would you be willing to bet he wouldn’t score 20 goals in a full season as a No.9 in this division?

You’re just a complete waffler. What are you talking about.

[Alan Southstand]

He makes a perfectly good point, Gaz! I think GM would have him scoring regularly for us, without question. Whether he could get 20 in a season would depend on lots of things and not all down to Street, as you well know.

I can’t think of anyone I’ve watched at this level, or below, who could do any better and be much cheaper?

Can you?

[BobG]

Ref the question you asked in your third paragraph Usher: we've witnessed the truth of Gaz's statement for ourselves.

BobG

[jmt23]

I’m not so sure, and that is nothing to do with Rob Street by the way. We just do not create loads of chances during games for strikers to thrive on, last Saturday was a rare game where we did create a few, and should have done much better.

Olusanya is a keen channel runner, and we don’t create owt for him, not to say he is the same quality, but I don’t remember him getting the same chances created for him.

Perhaps it was Rob Streets personality- he is very similar to Billy in that he expects team mates to be better and is not shy in letting them know. They maybe need more of that personality in the team.

[Ho]

I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.

I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.

No you’re right.

Why pay ‘hundreds of thousands’ for a player who we know would be more than capable of leading the line for us (as opposed to ‘channel running’) when as you allude to there are cheaper options out there. Like Hanlan & Olusanya.

As for Rob Street just having “….had the hottest goal scoring streak he will have in his career.” What do you base that ridiculous assumption on?

You might be correct if he’s given the job that Mols & Middleton’s have, running the channels i.e., wide players. But supposing a club buys him & their manager plays him in the role Billy occupies (please, please don’t pick up an injury Billy) for us now? Would you be willing to bet he wouldn’t score 20 goals in a full season as a No.9 in this division?

Rob Street data:

R. Street - League 2, 2024/25

Shots/90 - 2.22
xG/90 - 0.57
Goals/90 - 0.66


R. Street - League 1, 2025/26

Shots/90 - 1.2
xG/90 - 0.18
Goals/90 - 0.10


R. Street - League 1, All seasons

Shots/90 - 1.41
xG/90 - 0.24
Goals/90 - 0.12


The question then is can he replicate the form for us last season in League 1?  Assuming a 20% drop off of last seasons numbers due to the increase in quality between League 1 and 2, his adjusted numbers are:

R. Street - League 2, 2024/25, Adjusted for League 1

Shots/90 - 1.78
xG/90 - 0.46
Goals/90 - 0.53


To replicate the hot streak in League 1, he’d need to increase his frequency (shots/90) by 26% from his career average at that level.  For quality, he’d need to almost double his xG/90 and make a 4-5 fold increase in his goals/90.

You’d want a more sophisticated model before spending hundreds of thousands of course, but it shows a basic order of magnitude of improvement that would be be required.

[scawsby steve]

Ref the question you asked in your third paragraph Usher: we've witnessed the truth of Gaz's statement for ourselves.

BobG

Sorry, Bob, that's not quite right. Yes, we've witnessed Rob's hot scoring streak, but how can anyone say that he won't ever equal or better that throughout the rest of his career?

[GazLaz]

Ref the question you asked in your third paragraph Usher: we've witnessed the truth of Gaz's statement for ourselves.

BobG

Sorry, Bob, that's not quite right. Yes, we've witnessed Rob's hot scoring streak, but how can anyone say that he won't ever equal or better that throughout the rest of his career?

Street is 24yo, has played 150 games, and has looked like a threat for about 18 of them whilst playing for the best team in the 4th division.


I’m not saying the lads useless, he’s not. I’m just saying our fans over rate him. Judging strikers on short term goal returns is just not the way to do it.

[Chris Black come back]

He is also going to be impacted by the rest of our players probably relatively dropping in quality faster than him in League One, so he is going to be getting worse service than last season.

[Sprotyrover]

Has he been playing wide for Lincoln?

[ncRover]

Ref the question you asked in your third paragraph Usher: we've witnessed the truth of Gaz's statement for ourselves.

BobG

Sorry, Bob, that's not quite right. Yes, we've witnessed Rob's hot scoring streak, but how can anyone say that he won't ever equal or better that throughout the rest of his career?

Street is 24yo, has played 150 games, and has looked like a threat for about 18 of them whilst playing for the best team in the 4th division.


I’m not saying the lads useless, he’s not. I’m just saying our fans over rate him. Judging strikers on short term goal returns is just not the way to do it.

We weren’t the best team in the 4th division without him though.

Looking at Sofascore he’s started only 5 games in all comps a centre forward and has in those games scored 3 goals and has 1 assist.

[Usher wide.]

I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.

I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.

No you’re right.

Why pay ‘hundreds of thousands’ for a player who we know would be more than capable of leading the line for us (as opposed to ‘channel running’) when as you allude to there are cheaper options out there. Like Hanlan & Olusanya.

As for Rob Street just having “….had the hottest goal scoring streak he will have in his career.” What do you base that ridiculous assumption on?

You might be correct if he’s given the job that Mols & Middleton’s have, running the channels i.e., wide players. But supposing a club buys him & their manager plays him in the role Billy occupies (please, please don’t pick up an injury Billy) for us now? Would you be willing to bet he wouldn’t score 20 goals in a full season as a No.9 in this division?

You’re just a complete waffler. What are you talking about.

I’ll try to keep it simple (sorry there are no pictures for you to look at, you’ll have to stick with the narrative) for you.

Street scored 12 goals for us in 22 league appearances last season. He’s 24 years old which means he’s at an age where he at the very least 3-4 years off the ‘peak of his potential’.

Grant had the nouse after 3/4 games to move him into the centre of the attack which is where he hit the ‘hottest’ goal scoring run of his career thus far (is this ‘working for you’ Bob G?).

That sort of ‘potential’ costs money & if you’re serious about being a club that wants to play at a higher level than Lg1 then that, unfortunate as it may be to some, are the ‘waters you have to swim in’.

Brandon Hanlan (let’s put the phenomenal Billy Sharp at 39 years of age to one side for now) scored 16 league goals in 111 games over a 4 year period playing as a central striker for his previous club & ‘came’ to us for nothing. He’s 27 years old when most players are hitting their peak & is clearly not impressing the manager who more often than not doesn’t even have him on the bench. I think it’s fair to say he’s a player with little if any potential.

So, if you know of any player ‘out there’ who has the potential of a Street that won’t cost ‘hundreds of thousands’ then please enlighten us.

I’ve said it before but to ‘crystallise’ what I’m saying for those with limited attention spans, Hanlan, Olusanya, Ajayi & Crew will not move the club forward imo. Let’s send Crew & Ajayi back to their parent clubs to continue their ‘development’, Olusanya can head off back to Texas in January & let’s get players into the club in January who can offer us what they have failed to do since they joined the club in May.

Hanlan…..ouch, did we not get burned with his signing.

If Billy picks up an injury who the heck do we turn to?

[NickDRFC]

I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.

I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.

No you’re right.

Why pay ‘hundreds of thousands’ for a player who we know would be more than capable of leading the line for us (as opposed to ‘channel running’) when as you allude to there are cheaper options out there. Like Hanlan & Olusanya.

As for Rob Street just having “….had the hottest goal scoring streak he will have in his career.” What do you base that ridiculous assumption on?

You might be correct if he’s given the job that Mols & Middleton’s have, running the channels i.e., wide players. But supposing a club buys him & their manager plays him in the role Billy occupies (please, please don’t pick up an injury Billy) for us now? Would you be willing to bet he wouldn’t score 20 goals in a full season as a No.9 in this division?

You’re just a complete waffler. What are you talking about.

I’ll try to keep it simple (sorry there are no pictures for you to look at, you’ll have to stick with the narrative) for you.

Street scored 12 goals for us in 22 league appearances last season. He’s 24 years old which means he’s at an age where he at the very least 3-4 years off the ‘peak of his potential’.

Grant had the nouse after 3/4 games to move him into the centre of the attack which is where he hit the ‘hottest’ goal scoring run of his career thus far (is this ‘working for you’ Bob G?).

That sort of ‘potential’ costs money & if you’re serious about being a club that wants to play at a higher level than Lg1 then that, unfortunate as it may be to some, are the ‘waters you have to swim in’.

Brandon Hanlan (let’s put the phenomenal Billy Sharp at 39 years of age to one side for now) scored 16 league goals in 111 games over a 4 year period playing as a central striker for his previous club & ‘came’ to us for nothing. He’s 27 years old when most players are hitting their peak & is clearly not impressing the manager who more often than not doesn’t even have him on the bench. I think it’s fair to say he’s a player with little if any potential.

So, if you know of any player ‘out there’ who has the potential of a Street that won’t cost ‘hundreds of thousands’ then please enlighten us.

I’ve said it before but to ‘crystallise’ what I’m saying for those with limited attention spans, Hanlan, Olusanya, Ajayi & Crew will not move the club forward imo. Let’s send Crew & Ajayi back to their parent clubs to continue their ‘development’, Olusanya can head off back to Texas in January & let’s get players into the club in January who can offer us what they have failed to do since they joined the club in May.

Hanlan…..ouch, did we not get burned with his signing.

If Billy picks up an injury who the heck do we turn to?

I can’t be the only one that reads these posts in the voice of Dr Evil…

[vaya]

I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.

I think someone of that profile is important to how we play. Not sure it has to be him though. Don’t need to be paying hundreds of thousands for a channel runner thats just had the hottest goalscoring streak he will have in his career.

No you’re right.

Why pay ‘hundreds of thousands’ for a player who we know would be more than capable of leading the line for us (as opposed to ‘channel running’) when as you allude to there are cheaper options out there. Like Hanlan & Olusanya.

As for Rob Street just having “….had the hottest goal scoring streak he will have in his career.” What do you base that ridiculous assumption on?

You might be correct if he’s given the job that Mols & Middleton’s have, running the channels i.e., wide players. But supposing a club buys him & their manager plays him in the role Billy occupies (please, please don’t pick up an injury Billy) for us now? Would you be willing to bet he wouldn’t score 20 goals in a full season as a No.9 in this division?

You’re just a complete waffler. What are you talking about.

I’ll try to keep it simple (sorry there are no pictures for you to look at, you’ll have to stick with the narrative) for you.

Street scored 12 goals for us in 22 league appearances last season. He’s 24 years old which means he’s at an age where he at the very least 3-4 years off the ‘peak of his potential’.

Grant had the nouse after 3/4 games to move him into the centre of the attack which is where he hit the ‘hottest’ goal scoring run of his career thus far (is this ‘working for you’ Bob G?).

That sort of ‘potential’ costs money & if you’re serious about being a club that wants to play at a higher level than Lg1 then that, unfortunate as it may be to some, are the ‘waters you have to swim in’.

Brandon Hanlan (let’s put the phenomenal Billy Sharp at 39 years of age to one side for now) scored 16 league goals in 111 games over a 4 year period playing as a central striker for his previous club & ‘came’ to us for nothing. He’s 27 years old when most players are hitting their peak & is clearly not impressing the manager who more often than not doesn’t even have him on the bench. I think it’s fair to say he’s a player with little if any potential.

So, if you know of any player ‘out there’ who has the potential of a Street that won’t cost ‘hundreds of thousands’ then please enlighten us.

I’ve said it before but to ‘crystallise’ what I’m saying for those with limited attention spans, Hanlan, Olusanya, Ajayi & Crew will not move the club forward imo. Let’s send Crew & Ajayi back to their parent clubs to continue their ‘development’, Olusanya can head off back to Texas in January & let’s get players into the club in January who can offer us what they have failed to do since they joined the club in May.

Hanlan…..ouch, did we not get burned with his signing.

If Billy picks up an injury who the heck do we turn to?

I can’t be the only one that reads these posts in the voice of Dr Evil…

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