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Ryaldinhio

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Billy
« on October 18, 2025, 06:21:54 pm by Ryaldinhio »
I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.

I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.




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In the box

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Re: Billy
« Reply #1 on October 18, 2025, 06:23:21 pm by In the box »
I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.

I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.
We’ve been struggling all season to find the formation that creates chances and takes them . We need an out and out STRIKER!!

Ryaldinhio

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Re: Billy
« Reply #2 on October 18, 2025, 06:27:36 pm by Ryaldinhio »
I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.

I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.
We’ve been struggling all season to find the formation that creates chances and takes them . We need an out and out STRIKER!!

100% need something else/additional upfront. The incomings haven't given us many if any options.

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Re: Billy
« Reply #3 on October 18, 2025, 06:31:34 pm by Thorney »
Billy all his life has played with someone upfront with him.

He isnt a lone striker. He feeds off the lay offs and flick ons from his striking partner.

Right now he must be seething inside, but on the other hand, he is getting the minutes that probably no one would of expected him too

GazLaz

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Re: Billy
« Reply #4 on October 18, 2025, 06:31:57 pm by GazLaz »
I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.

I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.




His issues is that he can’t create things for himself with pace, skill or strength. You can’t put balls in behind for him, you can’t knock the ball long to him… it’s all got to be pretty specific.

steve@dcfd

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Re: Billy
« Reply #5 on October 18, 2025, 06:35:27 pm by steve@dcfd »
If that’s the case we haven’t got a striker at the club who can.

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Re: Billy
« Reply #6 on October 18, 2025, 06:35:47 pm by Padge_DRFC »
I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.

I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.




His issues is that he can’t create things for himself with pace, skill or strength. You can’t put balls in behind for him, you can’t knock the ball long to him… it’s all got to be pretty specific.

Street pretty much did all this. Surely Hanlan isn't that useless and can do these to some extent?

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Re: Billy
« Reply #7 on October 18, 2025, 06:36:49 pm by GazLaz »
I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.

I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.




His issues is that he can’t create things for himself with pace, skill or strength. You can’t put balls in behind for him, you can’t knock the ball long to him… it’s all got to be pretty specific.

Street pretty much did all this. Surely Hanlan isn't that useless and can do these to some extent?

Not from sat in the stand he can’t.

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Re: Billy
« Reply #8 on October 18, 2025, 06:38:37 pm by ncRover »
Yep people said this last year until Street came in. Then Street himself and everyone around him started magically getting more chances.

No faulting Billy’s effort at the moment.

sedwardsdrfc

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Re: Billy
« Reply #9 on October 18, 2025, 06:48:40 pm by sedwardsdrfc »
We’ve lost a top end L1 striker and not remotely replaced him. The man we brought in to replace him the manager won’t even give a chance.

Starting to feel a bit like the Bogle situation in some ways. I live Billy but like Gaz says he’s not going to offer a lot in open play.

Ryaldinhio

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Re: Billy
« Reply #10 on October 18, 2025, 06:50:15 pm by Ryaldinhio »
I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.

I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.




His issues is that he can’t create things for himself with pace, skill or strength. You can’t put balls in behind for him, you can’t knock the ball long to him… it’s all got to be pretty specific.

I actually think Billy has shown in pretty much  every game that he has plenty of strength and know how to position his body. He has shown more strength than Hanlan.

IMO Billy is our best/only option even when we arent playing to his strengths......and there is the issue.

edlored

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Re: Billy
« Reply #11 on October 18, 2025, 07:45:46 pm by edlored »
The games changed you need 3 strong athletic players nowadays

roversdaft

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Re: Billy
« Reply #12 on October 18, 2025, 07:54:47 pm by roversdaft »
Remember at at Scunthorpe with Keogh, that partnership was off the charts.

We need to find him a partner to feed off

bpoolrover

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Re: Billy
« Reply #13 on October 18, 2025, 07:57:52 pm by bpoolrover »
He needs balls in the box to his feet play to his strengths

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Re: Billy
« Reply #14 on October 18, 2025, 11:07:37 pm by Ian Nimmo »
I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.

I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.




His issues is that he can’t create things for himself with pace, skill or strength. You can’t put balls in behind for him, you can’t knock the ball long to him… it’s all got to be pretty specific.

I think you are being a little bit disrespectful to Billy. There were lots of time in the game today where Billy was defending in and around their box. Thus absolutely no way is he able to have to do this and then be able to be the lead striker in our box.

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Re: Billy
« Reply #15 on October 18, 2025, 11:15:17 pm by Bentley Bullet »
Sharp was probably our best attacker AND defender today!

Usher wide.

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Re: Billy
« Reply #16 on October 19, 2025, 12:03:45 am by Usher wide. »
I totally disagree with the criticism of him in here. He is working harder than most and given no service whatsoever.

I think you could put Haaland in the team at the minute and he wouldn't get a goal.



Absolutely this!

Those that ‘nit pick’ at him show only one thing, their lack of what it takes to be a footballer in his position on the field whilst claiming they do.

The same posters who tell us (as though we aren’t intelligent enough to see & judge for ourselves why he hasn’t been given) why Hanlan should be given ‘a run of games (no specifics on the amount) to see what he can do’. The answer was given quite succinctly by his last manager at Wycombe who having given Brandon a run of 100+ games in 4 years & was rewarded with a total of 16 goals stated that “Hanlon couldn’t hit a bull’s arse with a banjo”.

That ‘condemnation’ of a player who has plied his trade mainly in Lg1 & the Championship & is 12 years younger than Billy does make you wonder why Grant signed him in the first place.
I think the fact he sat in the stands today as opposed to the bench says it all, he’ll be on the ‘first bus’ out of the club’ as soon as….despite ‘others’ saying differently.

Olusnya will go back to Texas come January I have no doubt.

Ajayi got his first start today & after 70 minutes I’d seen enough to justify my earlier thoughts on him, go back to your parent club & let them ‘develop’ you, likewise Charlie Crew.

Bad recruitment. That needs addressing ‘in house’.

We need to regroup, buckle in & hope for some light going forward come January’s transfer window.

Today was a ‘watershed’ for the remainder of the season.
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Dougiebulletheader

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Re: Billy
« Reply #17 on October 19, 2025, 01:38:45 pm by Dougiebulletheader »
Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.

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Re: Billy
« Reply #18 on October 19, 2025, 02:55:54 pm by GazLaz »
Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.


A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.


Usher wide.

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Re: Billy
« Reply #19 on October 19, 2025, 03:13:07 pm by Usher wide. »
Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.


A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.

Is the manager fully in charge of recruitment? Nope.

Is the manager the person 'bank rolling' the club? Nope.

Does the manager involve himself as Chief Executive Officer of the club? Nope.

Does the manager involve himself directly with getting players back to fitness after injury? Nope.

Does it follow then that the manager as 'head coach' therefore have "...full control over everything....".? Nope.

But don't let that stop you throwing mud.

GazLaz

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Re: Billy
« Reply #20 on October 19, 2025, 05:12:18 pm by GazLaz »
Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.


A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.

Is the manager fully in charge of recruitment? Nope.

Is the manager the person 'bank rolling' the club? Nope.

Does the manager involve himself as Chief Executive Officer of the club? Nope.

Does the manager involve himself directly with getting players back to fitness after injury? Nope.

Does it follow then that the manager as 'head coach' therefore have "...full control over everything....".? Nope.

But don't let that stop you throwing mud.


He does have full control over recruitment and everyone in the football department answers to him. We had a head of football operations when GM joined. There’s no mud slinging here, it’s how we (and other clubs btw) operate. It’s an option that can be successful. I’m just saying it’s not the best strategy, long term, for everyone involved.


Imagine being a football manager and only having to concentrate on setting up a team for Saturday, picking the squad and motivating the players. Has to be a less stressful job!

Chris Black come back

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Re: Billy
« Reply #21 on October 19, 2025, 05:15:35 pm by Chris Black come back »
Billy has around one decent chance a game under the current set up. He’s got no hope at 19 let alone 39 with that service.

normal rules

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Re: Billy
« Reply #22 on October 19, 2025, 05:32:44 pm by normal rules »
Billy must be a huge influence in the dressing room. I do wonder if there is friction between him and GM?

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Re: Billy
« Reply #23 on October 19, 2025, 05:33:46 pm by Chris Black come back »
Given McCann singled him out both for praise and as a role model after the Orient debacle, I doubt this.

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Re: Billy
« Reply #24 on October 19, 2025, 05:35:45 pm by GazLaz »
Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.


A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.

Is the manager fully in charge of recruitment? Nope.

Is the manager the person 'bank rolling' the club? Nope.

Does the manager involve himself as Chief Executive Officer of the club? Nope.

Does the manager involve himself directly with getting players back to fitness after injury? Nope.

Does it follow then that the manager as 'head coach' therefore have "...full control over everything....".? Nope.

But don't let that stop you throwing mud.


He does have full control over recruitment and everyone in the football department answers to him. We had a head of football operations when GM joined. There’s no mud slinging here, it’s how we (and other clubs btw) operate. It’s an option that can be successful. I’m just saying it’s not the best strategy, long term, for everyone involved.


Imagine being a football manager and only having to concentrate on setting up a team for Saturday, picking the squad and motivating the players. Has to be a less stressful job!

On this. Has anyone seen what’s happening at Hearts? Brought in the smartest data analysis in the world, they do recruitment and strategy. The head coach follows their direction and they are now 5 points clear of Celtic at the top of the SPL and 13 points clear of Rangers.

They finished 7th last season. This progress has come about in less than 12 months. That’s the impact the taking certain decisions away from the manager, and giving them to super smart teams behind the scenes, can have. 

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Re: Billy
« Reply #25 on October 19, 2025, 05:54:47 pm by jmt23 »
I think Grimsby are now doing something similar too.

Ho

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« Reply #26 on October 26, 2025, 02:07:29 pm by Ho »
Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.


A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.

Is the manager fully in charge of recruitment? Nope.

Is the manager the person 'bank rolling' the club? Nope.

Does the manager involve himself as Chief Executive Officer of the club? Nope.

Does the manager involve himself directly with getting players back to fitness after injury? Nope.

Does it follow then that the manager as 'head coach' therefore have "...full control over everything....".? Nope.

But don't let that stop you throwing mud.


He does have full control over recruitment and everyone in the football department answers to him. We had a head of football operations when GM joined. There’s no mud slinging here, it’s how we (and other clubs btw) operate. It’s an option that can be successful. I’m just saying it’s not the best strategy, long term, for everyone involved.


Imagine being a football manager and only having to concentrate on setting up a team for Saturday, picking the squad and motivating the players. Has to be a less stressful job!

On this. Has anyone seen what’s happening at Hearts? Brought in the smartest data analysis in the world, they do recruitment and strategy. The head coach follows their direction and they are now 5 points clear of Celtic at the top of the SPL and 13 points clear of Rangers.

They finished 7th last season. This progress has come about in less than 12 months. That’s the impact the taking certain decisions away from the manager, and giving them to super smart teams behind the scenes, can have.


8 points clear of Celtic now after a strong performance this lunchtime.

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Re: Billy
« Reply #27 on October 26, 2025, 02:39:07 pm by danumdon »
Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.


A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.

Is the manager fully in charge of recruitment? Nope.

Is the manager the person 'bank rolling' the club? Nope.

Does the manager involve himself as Chief Executive Officer of the club? Nope.

Does the manager involve himself directly with getting players back to fitness after injury? Nope.

Does it follow then that the manager as 'head coach' therefore have "...full control over everything....".? Nope.

But don't let that stop you throwing mud.


He does have full control over recruitment and everyone in the football department answers to him. We had a head of football operations when GM joined. There’s no mud slinging here, it’s how we (and other clubs btw) operate. It’s an option that can be successful. I’m just saying it’s not the best strategy, long term, for everyone involved.


Imagine being a football manager and only having to concentrate on setting up a team for Saturday, picking the squad and motivating the players. Has to be a less stressful job!

On this. Has anyone seen what’s happening at Hearts? Brought in the smartest data analysis in the world, they do recruitment and strategy. The head coach follows their direction and they are now 5 points clear of Celtic at the top of the SPL and 13 points clear of Rangers.

They finished 7th last season. This progress has come about in less than 12 months. That’s the impact the taking certain decisions away from the manager, and giving them to super smart teams behind the scenes, can have. 



Fancy a spell as an unpaid intern!

GazLaz

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Re: Billy
« Reply #28 on October 26, 2025, 03:08:35 pm by GazLaz »
Just an off the cuff observation but did we spend to much time celebrating and living off last years promotion. The pre season this year seemed unorganised (last minuet game hashed up with Blackpool) and the recruitment almost lets have a look at what's left...slim pickings with a low budget..Grant said he had no holiday till signings in door..all seems a bit rushed. Is Grant taking to much on..Delegation is a difficult skill in Management and takes trust.


A manager led football club where one man has full control over everything isn’t really sustainable imo. Surely having an environment where different people are responsibly for different areas, thus taking the pressure of the head coach, is a more healthy environment.

Is the manager fully in charge of recruitment? Nope.

Is the manager the person 'bank rolling' the club? Nope.

Does the manager involve himself as Chief Executive Officer of the club? Nope.

Does the manager involve himself directly with getting players back to fitness after injury? Nope.

Does it follow then that the manager as 'head coach' therefore have "...full control over everything....".? Nope.

But don't let that stop you throwing mud.


He does have full control over recruitment and everyone in the football department answers to him. We had a head of football operations when GM joined. There’s no mud slinging here, it’s how we (and other clubs btw) operate. It’s an option that can be successful. I’m just saying it’s not the best strategy, long term, for everyone involved.


Imagine being a football manager and only having to concentrate on setting up a team for Saturday, picking the squad and motivating the players. Has to be a less stressful job!

On this. Has anyone seen what’s happening at Hearts? Brought in the smartest data analysis in the world, they do recruitment and strategy. The head coach follows their direction and they are now 5 points clear of Celtic at the top of the SPL and 13 points clear of Rangers.

They finished 7th last season. This progress has come about in less than 12 months. That’s the impact the taking certain decisions away from the manager, and giving them to super smart teams behind the scenes, can have.


8 points clear of Celtic now after a strong performance this lunchtime.


Yeah, I watched it. If Hearts win the SPL within one year of Bloom taking over it will be one of the most incredible football achievements I’ve ever seen.

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Re: Billy
« Reply #29 on October 26, 2025, 03:42:41 pm by les@donr »
I think we should have offered Lincoln a sum they couldn’t refuse for Street, during the past transfer window.He is key to the way we play.

 

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