Goals incorrectly awarded

[One_Matty_Lucas]

Last night's goal being awarded to Mols instead of Billy made me think of our game at Swindon in 2006.
Our goal was awarded to Ross McCormack, but was clearly scored by Heffs.

Match Stats -> https://www.espn.co.uk/football/match/_/gameId/185474/doncaster-rovers-swindon-town
Heffs heading in -> https://youtu.be/B1xTjwvpJ_w?si=LEAozUlIIXIdYCLn&t=72

19 years later it still annoys me that the stats are wrong.

[Bentley Bullet]

Mols had his back to the ball when Sharp's shot clipped him.

How on earth could it not be given to Sharp?

[MachoMadness]

I'd rather see that than goals incorrectly not awarded, which we've also had our fair share of.

[TheFunk]

Mols never even touched it. There was a video from behind the goal that I saw last night that clearly shows it came off the defender last.

[Donnywolf]

Has it been chalked off for Billy officially ?

Seems harsh but no doubt he will have  been a beneficiary the other way

Wasn't Stree tlast Season getting a slight touch to a Sterry thunderbolt . Again bad luck for JS but rules is rules though some are senseless

[Dutch Uncle]

Last night's goal being awarded to Mols instead of Billy made me think of our game at Swindon in 2006.
Our goal was awarded to Ross McCormack, but was clearly scored by Heffs.

Match Stats -> https://www.espn.co.uk/football/match/_/gameId/185474/doncaster-rovers-swindon-town
Heffs heading in -> https://youtu.be/B1xTjwvpJ_w?si=LEAozUlIIXIdYCLn&t=72

19 years later it still annoys me that the stats are wrong.

About 6 years ago The Red Baron, Bristol Red Rover and I investigated about 80 Rovers goals scored in our entire history of League and Conference seasons which had been recorded differently in different sources (e.g. Rothmans, Club Handbooks, various books of the History of Rovers (e.g. Bluff and Watson), and a few other publications. The Red Baron in particular investigated many old newspaper reports. We made a call on each goal and I believe the club took this on board. Now the Red Baron is actually working for the club I am sure these calls have been incorporated in the club history database. The goal you mention is one, and was correctly changed to be credited to Heffernan.   

[One_Matty_Lucas]

Thanks Dutch Uncle, I can let go of this injustice then

Did you count the "ghost" McCammon one at Brentford?

[Dutch Uncle]

Did you count the "ghost" McCammon one at Brentford?

I wish 

[Fal]

Surely if Sharps goal has gone to Mols, then Ajayis should be an own goal since that hit a defender?

[Dutch Uncle]

Surely if Sharps goal has gone to Mols, then Ajayis should be an own goal since that hit a defender?

I think the (maybe unwritten) rule is that if it hits a defender and goes in, if the original shot was on target it is a goal for the shooter, if not then it is an own goal.

If a shot goes in off a teammate then I think the similarly unwritten rule is that the goal is credited to the last player of attacking team who touched it, independent of whether the original shot was on target nor not.

[MachoMadness]

Surely if Sharps goal has gone to Mols, then Ajayis should be an own goal since that hit a defender?

I think the (maybe unwritten) rule is that if its a defender and goes in, if the original shot was on target it is a goal for the shooter, if not then it is an own goal.

If a shot goes in off a teammate then I think the similarly unwritten rule is that the goal is credited to the last player of attacking team who touched it, independent of whether the original shot was on target nor not.

This is how I always understood it too. Presumably it's like this to spare the blushes of defenders who would be scoring own goals every week otherwise.

[drfchound]

Surely if Sharps goal has gone to Mols, then Ajayis should be an own goal since that hit a defender?

I think the (maybe unwritten) rule is that if its a defender and goes in, if the original shot was on target it is a goal for the shooter, if not then it is an own goal.

If a shot goes in off a teammate then I think the similarly unwritten rule is that the goal is credited to the last player of attacking team who touched it, independent of whether the original shot was on target nor not.

That is exactly right Dutch.

[Alan Southstand]

Just checked the BBC sports pages and it’s still down as Mols!

Surely, this has to be corrected?

[VivaRovers]

The second goal in this 3-0 win against Wigan in the Championship is always attributed to James Coppinger.

From my seat in the West Stand at the game Copps definitely played the ball off the chest of the falling Wellens and in, so it should be Wellens' goal. But it's not clear on any camera angle available so it's always, understandably, been attributed to Coppinger.

[drfchound]

The second goal in this 3-0 win against Wigan in the Championship is always attributed to James Coppinger.

From my seat in the West Stand at the game Copps definitely played the ball off the chest of the falling Wellens and in, so it should be Wellens' goal. But it's not clear on any camera angle available so it's always, understandably, been attributed to Coppinger.

At the time of that match I used to see quite a lot of Copps and I asked him about that goal.
He said it was his (not Wellens’) goal all day long.
Mind, in the same circumstances I would have claimed it as well ………

[Dutch Uncle]

The second goal in this 3-0 win against Wigan in the Championship is always attributed to James Coppinger.

From my seat in the West Stand at the game Copps definitely played the ball off the chest of the falling Wellens and in, so it should be Wellens' goal. But it's not clear on any camera angle available so it's always, understandably, been attributed to Coppinger.

At the time of that match I used to see quite a lot of Copps and I asked him about that goal.
He said it was his (not Wellens’) goal all day long.
Mind, in the same circumstances I would have claimed it as well ………

This was one of the goals considered, and IIRC we were not sure enough to overturn the goal from Copps to Wellens. The Red Baron might have clearer notes than I do.

A bit like VAR maybe, well before its time

[albie]

I don't know why Moly just doesn't come out with a statement that he never touched the ball.
They can hardly credit him with the goal after that, can they?

It is clear from the body language of the defender when he sees it has gone in that the deflection was from him.

Some fella from the BBC needs to get down to Specsavers pronto!

[donnievic]

Surely if Sharps goal has gone to Mols, then Ajayis should be an own goal since that hit a defender?

works differently if it hits a team mate although not sure whether it hit Mols or the defender

[scawsby steve]

Has it been chalked off for Billy officially ?

Seems harsh but no doubt he will have  been a beneficiary the other way

Wasn't Stree tlast Season getting a slight touch to a Sterry thunderbolt . Again bad luck for JS but rules is rules though some are senseless

Dead right, Wolfie, but whereas Billy's shot last night was on target, Sterry's was going wide. Where I was sat, I was right in line with it.

[DonnyBazR0ver]

On looking at it a few times, Billy's shot deffo deflected and looped up off the defender.

I think there's a dubious goals committee who review these things although I don't know if it covers this competition. I would think the club could appeal and have it corrected as it meets the definition as described by Dutch.

With Billy only 8 short of 300, it matters.

[Belle_Vue]

Shame if it's not a Billy goal but I'm sure he won't dwell, after all it could have been Wirtz...

[IDM]

I don't know why Moly just doesn't come out with a statement that he never touched the ball.
They can hardly credit him with the goal after that, can they?

It is clear from the body language of the defender when he sees it has gone in that the deflection was from him.

Some fella from the BBC needs to get down to Specsavers pronto!

It’s not the BBC, the data gets fed to all media via one source, perhaps the press association.?

[MachoMadness]

Beeb report now gives the goal to Sharp: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/c898x99kp1zt

[Fal]

Surely if Sharps goal has gone to Mols, then Ajayis should be an own goal since that hit a defender?

I think the (maybe unwritten) rule is that if it hits a defender and goes in, if the original shot was on target it is a goal for the shooter, if not then it is an own goal.

If a shot goes in off a teammate then I think the similarly unwritten rule is that the goal is credited to the last player of attacking team who touched it, independent of whether the original shot was on target nor not.

Similar issue in the Liverpool game last night for their goal, Wirtz takes the shot but it hits a defender and instead of going to Wirtz it goes down as an own goal

[drfchound]

Surely if Sharps goal has gone to Mols, then Ajayis should be an own goal since that hit a defender?

I think the (maybe unwritten) rule is that if it hits a defender and goes in, if the original shot was on target it is a goal for the shooter, if not then it is an own goal.

If a shot goes in off a teammate then I think the similarly unwritten rule is that the goal is credited to the last player of attacking team who touched it, independent of whether the original shot was on target nor not.

Similar issue in the Liverpool game last night for their goal, Wirtz takes the shot but it hits a defender and instead of going to Wirtz it goes down as an own goal

Not totally the same mate.
Billy’s original shot was on target whereas the shot by Wilts was very obviously going wide until it deflected in off the defenders leg.

[MachoMadness]

Surely if Sharps goal has gone to Mols, then Ajayis should be an own goal since that hit a defender?

I think the (maybe unwritten) rule is that if it hits a defender and goes in, if the original shot was on target it is a goal for the shooter, if not then it is an own goal.

If a shot goes in off a teammate then I think the similarly unwritten rule is that the goal is credited to the last player of attacking team who touched it, independent of whether the original shot was on target nor not.

Similar issue in the Liverpool game last night for their goal, Wirtz takes the shot but it hits a defender and instead of going to Wirtz it goes down as an own goal

Not totally the same mate.
Billy’s original shot was on target whereas the shot by Wilts was very obviously going wide until it deflected in off the defenders leg.

Very harsh of you to take a goal off a fellow poster Hound. Wilts probably doesn't score too many.

[drfchound]

Surely if Sharps goal has gone to Mols, then Ajayis should be an own goal since that hit a defender?

I think the (maybe unwritten) rule is that if it hits a defender and goes in, if the original shot was on target it is a goal for the shooter, if not then it is an own goal.

If a shot goes in off a teammate then I think the similarly unwritten rule is that the goal is credited to the last player of attacking team who touched it, independent of whether the original shot was on target nor not.

Similar issue in the Liverpool game last night for their goal, Wirtz takes the shot but it hits a defender and instead of going to Wirtz it goes down as an own goal

Not totally the same mate.
Billy’s original shot was on target whereas the shot by Wilts was very obviously going wide until it deflected in off the defenders leg.

Very harsh of you to take a goal off a fellow poster Hound. Wilts probably doesn't score too many.

Haha, I just spotted the mistake in my post (predictive text).
Made me laugh that did.