Who's party.....

[dickos1]

Yes I have and I’m totally at a loss at how u can think otherwise.
He dithered and let the defender in, a proper in form striker doesn’t let the defender get back as easily as that,

[StocksArmy]

He didn't either. He approached the ball in a way that his intended shot was the first time he could have shot. The previous step when his left leg went forward, the ball was a yard to his left and he would have had to be Inspector Gadget to fashion a shot from there.

The through ball was also very slow. So if Hanlan had sprinted full on, he'd have over run it. He had to take a half check stride to make sure he approached the ball such that he'd get a clean left foot strike. That looked like a "dither" but there was literally no option if he was going to hit it with his left.

The only option would have been to toe end it with his right foot, a stride earlier. And I can imagine the reaction if he'd done that and not scored...

I like hanlan, but for sure he should’ve done better with that chance.
He let the ball run acrosss his body trying to get it on his right foot, if he’d moved towards the ball and struck it with his left the defender would’ve got nowhere near him.

Have you watched the video? If you have, I'm totally at a loss as to how you can conclude that.

I’m at a loss to what you’ve watched BST. I’ve just watched it 5 times and you cannot defend him. He’s favourite to get the shot off every day of the week. He even shapes slightly to hit it first time and then must think there’s no defender around him.

[TonySoprano]

BST who thinks matty Craig is better than pele 

[BillyStubbsTears]

Yes I have and I’m totally at a loss at how u can think otherwise.
He dithered and let the defender in, a proper in form striker doesn’t let the defender get back as easily as that,

And you genuinely think he was trying to get a shot off with his right foot?

[Ldr]

BST who thinks matty Craig is better than pele 

Well given that Pele is dead he’s not wrong at this time is he?

[dickos1]

Yes I have and I’m totally at a loss at how u can think otherwise.
He dithered and let the defender in, a proper in form striker doesn’t let the defender get back as easily as that,

And you genuinely think he was trying to get a shot off with his right foot?

He was waiting for the ball to come so he could get it onto his right yes, rather than going to the ball and getting a shot off on his left.
He was acting like he was in acres of space which is not all the fault of his,

[i_ateallthepies]

Waiting for the ball to pass him to get it onto his right foot is the only possible explanation for him doing what he did.

[Usher wide.]

Yes I have and I’m totally at a loss at how u can think otherwise.
He dithered and let the defender in, a proper in form striker doesn’t let the defender get back as easily as that,

And you genuinely think he was trying to get a shot off with his right foot?

He was waiting for the ball to come so he could get it onto his right yes, rather than going to the ball and getting a shot off on his left.
He was acting like he was in acres of space which is not all the fault of his,

“…of his,” radar?

[Draytonian III]

This obsession BST has with hanlan is becoming very strange, hes not gonna kiss you pal!

Let's be honest, hes absolute shite and nowhere near the level we need.
We need a player as good as Tolaj, Wooton, Ballard or keillor-dunn.
Hanlan looks a competition winner next to those.

“Absolute Shitte” so you’ve not celebrated when he has scored, I think he has struggled a bit this season but to call him “Absolute Shitte “ is a disgrace

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'm starting to see why they are getting rid of jury trials.

It's SO clear what happened. What people are calling "dithering" was him taking a half step precisely so he could shoot with his left foot. He had to take that half step because the through ball was quite a bit too slow for him to run onto without breaking stride. He was shaping to shoot with his left (the first chance he had to shoot with his left) when the defender nicked the ball away and Hanlan stopped his swing.

The ONLY chance he'd had to shoot before that moment was the previous step, when he could have awkwardly stabbed a right foot toe end at the ball.

The problem was that the through ball was a fraction late, giving the covering defender time to get up to full speed, while Hanlan couldn't because he'd have been offside. Then the lack of pace on the through ball meant Hanlan could not accelerate onto it at full pace and meet it naturally positioned to hit the ball with his left foot.  So he took a half step to get his feet in the right places and that gave the defender the chance to nick the ball away. At no time did he ever look like he was shaping to get the ball onto his right foot. And the moment the defender nicked the ball was the very first chance Hanlan had had to shoot with his left.

If you just casually watch it at full speed, yes it looks awful. But step through the frames and it's clear what happened.

[dickos1]

I'm starting to see why they are getting rid of jury trials.

It's SO clear what happened. What people are calling "dithering" was him taking a half step precisely so he could shoot with his left foot. He had to take that half step because the through ball was quite a bit too slow for him to run onto without breaking stride. He was shaping to shoot with his left (the first chance he had to shoot with his left) when the defender nicked the ball away and Hanlan stopped his swing.

The ONLY chance he'd had to shoot before that moment was the previous step, when he could have awkwardly stabbed a right foot toe end at the ball.

The problem was that the through ball was a fraction late, giving the covering defender time to get up to full speed, while Hanlan couldn't because he'd have been offside. Then the lack of pace on the through ball meant Hanlan could not accelerate onto it at full pace and meet it naturally positioned to hit the ball with his left foot.  So he took a half step to get his feet in the right places and that gave the defender the chance to nick the ball away. At no time did he ever look like he was shaping to get the ball onto his right foot. And the moment the defender nicked the ball was the very first chance Hanlan had had to shoot with his left.

If you just casually watch it at full speed, yes it looks awful. But step through the frames and it's clear what happened.

Mate, stop going on about it.
You think he did everything correct I think he could’ve done much better, what does it matter?
Paragraphs and paragraphs of why he did what he did, I played at a decent level and I can tell you now he could’ve done better by being more alive and aware of what’s around him.
That’s my opinion, you have yours.
No problem

[BillyStubbsTears]

I'm starting to see why they are getting rid of jury trials.

It's SO clear what happened. What people are calling "dithering" was him taking a half step precisely so he could shoot with his left foot. He had to take that half step because the through ball was quite a bit too slow for him to run onto without breaking stride. He was shaping to shoot with his left (the first chance he had to shoot with his left) when the defender nicked the ball away and Hanlan stopped his swing.

The ONLY chance he'd had to shoot before that moment was the previous step, when he could have awkwardly stabbed a right foot toe end at the ball.

The problem was that the through ball was a fraction late, giving the covering defender time to get up to full speed, while Hanlan couldn't because he'd have been offside. Then the lack of pace on the through ball meant Hanlan could not accelerate onto it at full pace and meet it naturally positioned to hit the ball with his left foot.  So he took a half step to get his feet in the right places and that gave the defender the chance to nick the ball away. At no time did he ever look like he was shaping to get the ball onto his right foot. And the moment the defender nicked the ball was the very first chance Hanlan had had to shoot with his left.

If you just casually watch it at full speed, yes it looks awful. But step through the frames and it's clear what happened.

Mate, stop going on about it.
You think he did everything correct I think he could’ve done much better, what does it matter?
Paragraphs and paragraphs of why he did what he did, I played at a decent level and I can tell you now he could’ve done better by being more alive and aware of what’s around him.
That’s my opinion, you have yours.
No problem

Nope. I DON'T "think he did everything right". That's your wrong interpretation of what I'm saying.

If he'd realised immediately that the through ball was going very slowly, he could have run at a different angle to intercept the ball. That was his mistake.

The point I'm making is that the mistake he made is not the utterly incompetent one that several people are suggesting. That he dithered and didn't take a shooting opportunity when he had it, and in doing so, looked like an absolute carthorse. That is simply incorrect.

[sedwardsdrfc]

I love how much analysis is given to a moment where the player is literally just acting on instinct and not thinking for more than a second about what or why he’s doing it.

If you’ve played the game you know he was on his heels when he shouldn’t have been and didn’t expect the defender behind him when he should have. Even at basic level you are taught as a forward that unless you get a shout you’ve someone up your arse.

Is he a cart horse? No. Was that a cart horse moment? Imo yes and most see it that way.

[Ryaldinhio]

In that particular instance I was frustrated he didnt get a shot away with his left quicker but that didnt define the overall performance.

Also, try considering it from the defenders point of view. If that was the other way around we would be praising our defender for nipping in at the last second to take it off his toe, not saying the striker was poor.

I was more concerned about the lack of winning aerial duels and the ball bouncing off him 9 times out of 10.

Also to discuss the incident where he took two lads on then misplaced a pass. my issue with that was when he received/recovered the ball near halfway Bailey was bursting through the middle and he should have been aware and played a quick pass. I saw it in real time and GM was at the bottom of the screen pulling his hair out that Hanlan turned back. Im not sure if its on highlights, I haven't watched them yet.

[drfchound]

The game is really simple from the stands.

[Usher wide.]

I'm starting to see why they are getting rid of jury trials.

It's SO clear what happened. What people are calling "dithering" was him taking a half step precisely so he could shoot with his left foot. He had to take that half step because the through ball was quite a bit too slow for him to run onto without breaking stride. He was shaping to shoot with his left (the first chance he had to shoot with his left) when the defender nicked the ball away and Hanlan stopped his swing.

The ONLY chance he'd had to shoot before that moment was the previous step, when he could have awkwardly stabbed a right foot toe end at the ball.

The problem was that the through ball was a fraction late, giving the covering defender time to get up to full speed, while Hanlan couldn't because he'd have been offside. Then the lack of pace on the through ball meant Hanlan could not accelerate onto it at full pace and meet it naturally positioned to hit the ball with his left foot.  So he took a half step to get his feet in the right places and that gave the defender the chance to nick the ball away. At no time did he ever look like he was shaping to get the ball onto his right foot. And the moment the defender nicked the ball was the very first chance Hanlan had had to shoot with his left.

If you just casually watch it at full speed, yes it looks awful. But step through the frames and it's clear what happened.

Mate, stop going on about it.
You think he did everything correct I think he could’ve done much better, what does it matter?
Paragraphs and paragraphs of why he did what he did, I played at a decent level and I can tell you now he could’ve done better by being more alive and aware of what’s around him.
That’s my opinion, you have yours.
No problem

Nope. I DON'T "think he did everything right". That's your wrong interpretation of what I'm saying.

If he'd realised immediately that the through ball was going very slowly, he could have run at a different angle to intercept the ball. That was his mistake.

The point I'm making is that the mistake he made is not the utterly incompetent one that several people are suggesting. That he dithered and didn't take a shooting opportunity when he had it, and in doing so, looked like an absolute carthorse. That is simply incorrect.

Man, put that bloody shovel down it must be playing havoc with your blood pressure!

Enough now. Life’s too short.

[scawsby steve]

If the rumours about Haks are true, we might be adding some much needed fire power up front.

We can only hope.

[mushRTID]

If the rumours about Haks are true, we might be adding some much needed fire power up front.

We can only hope.

He will only (hopefully) be giving us what Gibson should be.

We will still sign another striker.

[Pancho Regan]

Have only just opened and read this thread and I find it incredible and amusing in equal measure.

Only BST could write endless analytical paragraphs about one single moment in time during a footy match.

Hanlan missed a glorious opportunity to score, by being too slow in that instant and not having the instincts of a true striker.
That, to me, was blindingly obvious from the moment it happened in the game, and several views of the same incident haven’t changed my mind one bit.

How BST can sling personal insults at those who don’t agree with his analysis….. well, he has history for this so let’s just move on.

Hanlan’s failure to make the most of that goal scoring chance doesn’t make him the anti-Christ, but it does reinforce the view that he is not the quality of striker we need.

[TonySoprano]

Have only just opened and read this thread and I find it incredible and amusing in equal measure.

Only BST could write endless analytical paragraphs about one single moment in time during a footy match.

Hanlan missed a glorious opportunity to score, by being too slow in that instant and not having the instincts of a true striker.
That, to me, was blindingly obvious from the moment it happened in the game, and several views of the same incident haven’t changed my mind one bit.

How BST can sling personal insults at those who don’t agree with his analysis….. well, he has history for this so let’s just move on.

Hanlan’s failure to make the most of that goal scoring chance doesn’t make him the anti-Christ, but it does reinforce the view that he is not the quality of striker we need.

Agreed, it was a golden chance layed on a plate for him and he completely cocked it up. Any half decent footballer would have at least had a shot.