Francis Okoronkwo

[TonySoprano]

Sigh  .

Another unproven kid on loan, not the proven goalscorer we need.
MASSIVE gamble, especially given we are staring relegation in the face.

To get a proven goal scorer at this level you be talking £800,000 and wages. You wouldn’t be able to loan such a player.
In our position would such a player want to come.
We have taken a chance on Okoronkwo who has played in league 2 and league1 okay not full games he may score with Adelakun more goals to improve our position we will have to see.

That would pay for itself if if it kept us up.

Gambling on an unproven kid on loan (on the cheap) is a huge risk, and if we go down, its bye bye Bailey and molyneux, we wont recover for a decade.

The real ambition being shown here

[steve@dcfd]

What confuses the hell out of me is how Grant can find the right players in January but not in summer!

He probably wanted Okoronkwo in the summer put Everton and the player chose Lincoln and it might have been due to the cost of the loan fee. He’s realised the competition for places at Lincoln where is was 1 of 10 attacking players limited his game time so he has come to us. That might be the story with others we don’t know.

[steve@dcfd]

  I am sure he will recognise at least one player when he arrives, when he played for Everton u21s against us a couple of years ago, Bobby was all over him like a rash and left a few calling cards on him  before he was subbed by Everton in the second half.
  He was told to man mark him and when he went wide followed him, to be fair it was a right tussle with two athletes who were quick,
  Bobby went on a great run that game, picking up the ball in our penalty area from a corner and ran the full length of the pitch with all the Everton players chasing and set Marsh up with a great ball to the edge of the box but he shot straight at the keeper, I think it was one of the games Bobby got MOM.
   He was looked on as one of the next big things at the time.
 

Hi Selby how is Bobby when will he be ready to resume playing. I would like to see Grant give a chance. We know that our centre halves are struggling at League 1 even Pearson who has the experience. It would be good to see if Bobby could step up to this level.

[Dutch Uncle]

It seems with nearly every McCann signing there has to be an Irish connection somewhere (and preferably Ulster), and then I saw a poster referred to him as 'Orinoco'

Must be what GM thought he was called 

'Orinoco Flow' was a big hit for Enya - she is from County Donegal which is in Ulster (but confusingly not in Northern Ireland) 

[RoseTInteD]

The Southampton game should be an interesting one with all 3 new players given a chance to show what they can do.
The new rules say they can play for more than one club in a competition.
As I have said before, decide on Saturday rather than just speculate.

[Draytonian III]

It seems with nearly every McCann signing there has to be an Irish connection somewhere (and preferably Ulster), and then I saw a poster referred to him as 'Orinoco'

Must be what GM thought he was called 

'Orinoco Flow' was a big hit for Enya - she is from County Donegal which is in Ulster (but confusingly not in Northern Ireland) 

If you go to Belfast and go down Sandy Row there’s a mural painting of Grant McCann on the end of a row of houses. It’s close by the Glasgow Rangers Supporters Bar which in turn is nearly opposite the block of flats that Alex Higgins passed away in.

[sf9944]

The Southampton game should be an interesting one with all 3 new players given a chance to show what they can do.
The new rules say they can play for more than one club in a competition.
As I have said before, decide on Saturday rather than just speculate.

Is this definitely the case? I tried to look it up by am none the wiser

[Shawn_drfc]

Yeah its been confirmed all can play saturday.

[RoseTInteD]

https://www.doncasterfreepress.co.uk/sport/football/doncaster-rovers-receive-big-boost-for-fa-cup-tie-with-southampton-thanks-to-new-ruling-5465617

[mushRTID]

It seems with nearly every McCann signing there has to be an Irish connection somewhere (and preferably Ulster), and then I saw a poster referred to him as 'Orinoco'

Must be what GM thought he was called 

'Orinoco Flow' was a big hit for Enya - she is from County Donegal which is in Ulster (but confusingly not in Northern Ireland) 

If you go to Belfast and go down Sandy Row there’s a mural painting of Grant McCann on the end of a row of houses. It’s close by the Glasgow Rangers Supporters Bar which in turn is nearly opposite the block of flats that Alex Higgins passed away in.

Was there in October and got a photo with Grant.
Superb city Belfast.

[LincolnDonny]

Just asked my brother (season ticket holder at the Limps) about Frankie and he wrote,

"He can be a lazy player. Not bad when in form but trips over his own feetjust at the wrong time. hope he does better for you"

[dickos1]

Sigh  .

Another unproven kid on loan, not the proven goalscorer we need.
MASSIVE gamble, especially given we are staring relegation in the face.

How proven was
Street,
Craig,
Kane,

[goalkick]

We will see what happens in the next couple of months as to if we improve our league position or we are to far adrift. Time will tell.hope we go upwards.

[GazLaz]

Sigh  .

Another unproven kid on loan, not the proven goalscorer we need.
MASSIVE gamble, especially given we are staring relegation in the face.

How proven was
Street,
Craig,
Kane,

Yeboah, Ajayi and Ennis. I think FO has an ok profile for a loanee but there is a risk involved in signings of this type. He needs to improve on what he showed at Salford to make a tangible impact. That’s very possible but no certainty. We are 6 points from safety and odds on to go down. We need to balance inexperience with proven.

[TonySoprano]

Sigh  .

Another unproven kid on loan, not the proven goalscorer we need.
MASSIVE gamble, especially given we are staring relegation in the face.

How proven was
Street,
Craig,
Kane,

I see the point im making has gone over your head

[i_ateallthepies]

Sigh  .

Another unproven kid on loan, not the proven goalscorer we need.
MASSIVE gamble, especially given we are staring relegation in the face.

How proven was
Street,
Craig,
Kane,

Yeboah, Ajayi and Ennis. I think FO has an ok profile for a loanee but there is a risk involved in signings of this type. He needs to improve on what he showed at Salford to make a tangible impact. That’s very possible but no certainty. We are 6 points from safety and odds on to go down. We need to balance inexperience with proven.

Odds on?  Really?  It's only half way through the season, too much water to go under the bridge to be making anyone odds on at this point.

[ncRover]

Currently at evens with SkyBet to be relegated. 4th favourites.

[GazLaz]

Currently at evens with SkyBet to be relegated. 4th favourites.

Even money to go down then!

I make us 10/11 (52.5%). That’s odds on.

[Bills view]

Current results make us relegation material. Other teams around us will also be looking to strengthen to try to get out of trouble.

We need to recruit better or more appropriately to improve our results more.

[Draytonian III]

What odds for a top half finish??

[Arksey rover]

500/1 top two finish. 100/1 top six. Just had 20 quid on top 6. Got to be worth a risk surely ?

[DearneValleyRover]

Here we go again, people predicting how things will go or how good we will be before the new players have even kicked a ball for us. We’ve been here for the last 2 seasons and we have turned it around. I’m as unhappy as the next that we keep doing this but I believe we can start to convert chances enough to get us out of the relegation places.

[GazLaz]

Here we go again, people predicting how things will go or how good we will be before the new players have even kicked a ball for us. We’ve been here for the last 2 seasons and we have turned it around. I’m as unhappy as the next that we keep doing this but I believe we can start to convert chances enough to get us out of the relegation places.

Footballs all about having opinions isn’t it? I’ve not put an opinion across. Bookmakers odds are as close as you can get for gauging the chance of things happening in the future. They are pretty efficient.

What happened at the back end of the last two seasons has very little relevance to wash happens from here on in.

Improve efficiency in both boxes between now and May and we will stay up. If we don’t, we won’t.

[dickos1]

Sigh  .

Another unproven kid on loan, not the proven goalscorer we need.
MASSIVE gamble, especially given we are staring relegation in the face.

How proven was
Street,
Craig,
Kane,

I see the point im making has gone over your head

Not really.
You haven’t got a point

[dickos1]

Sigh  .

Another unproven kid on loan, not the proven goalscorer we need.
MASSIVE gamble, especially given we are staring relegation in the face.

How proven was
Street,
Craig,
Kane,

Yeboah, Ajayi and Ennis. I think FO has an ok profile for a loanee but there is a risk involved in signings of this type. He needs to improve on what he showed at Salford to make a tangible impact. That’s very possible but no certainty. We are 6 points from safety and odds on to go down. We need to balance inexperience with proven.

Exactly!
Not every signing is going to come off, but we’ve proven in the past that being unproven means very little if you get the right player in

[DearneValleyRover]

Here we go again, people predicting how things will go or how good we will be before the new players have even kicked a ball for us. We’ve been here for the last 2 seasons and we have turned it around. I’m as unhappy as the next that we keep doing this but I believe we can start to convert chances enough to get us out of the relegation places.

Footballs all about having opinions isn’t it? I’ve not put an opinion across. Bookmakers odds are as close as you can get for gauging the chance of things happening in the future. They are pretty efficient.

What happened at the back end of the last two seasons has very little relevance to wash happens from here on in.

Improve efficiency in both boxes between now and May and we will stay up. If we don’t, we won’t.

I wasn’t referring to you Gaz however bookies odds are a guideline only.

[GazLaz]

Here we go again, people predicting how things will go or how good we will be before the new players have even kicked a ball for us. We’ve been here for the last 2 seasons and we have turned it around. I’m as unhappy as the next that we keep doing this but I believe we can start to convert chances enough to get us out of the relegation places.

Footballs all about having opinions isn’t it? I’ve not put an opinion across. Bookmakers odds are as close as you can get for gauging the chance of things happening in the future. They are pretty efficient.

What happened at the back end of the last two seasons has very little relevance to wash happens from here on in.

Improve efficiency in both boxes between now and May and we will stay up. If we don’t, we won’t.

I wasn’t referring to you Gaz however bookies odds are a guideline only.

They are as close to a true reflection of the actual probability of a given outcome as you can get with the information available at the time. I think a 50/50 chance of staying up with 22 games to go is about fair.

[DearneValleyRover]

Here we go again, people predicting how things will go or how good we will be before the new players have even kicked a ball for us. We’ve been here for the last 2 seasons and we have turned it around. I’m as unhappy as the next that we keep doing this but I believe we can start to convert chances enough to get us out of the relegation places.

Footballs all about having opinions isn’t it? I’ve not put an opinion across. Bookmakers odds are as close as you can get for gauging the chance of things happening in the future. They are pretty efficient.

What happened at the back end of the last two seasons has very little relevance to wash happens from here on in.

Improve efficiency in both boxes between now and May and we will stay up. If we don’t, we won’t.

I wasn’t referring to you Gaz however bookies odds are a guideline only.

They are as close to a true reflection of the actual probability of a given outcome as you can get with the information available at the time. I think a 50/50 chance of staying up with 22 games to go is about fair.

The line, at the time sums it up, early January not May so as stated a guideline

[danumdon]

I think even the most cynical fan can see that we do have the possibility to get ourselves into a position of safety.

We have created over the season so far enough chances to have had us sitting very handily, our execution hasn't been the best and we have paid for this.

With the same application and some improved finishing we should be able to climb up this league.
If the chances had been converted think of the positions we would have been in, would we have conceded so many because of this?

I'm sure one correlate's along with the other!

[KingKendrick]

Sigh  .

Another unproven kid on loan, not the proven goalscorer we need.
MASSIVE gamble, especially given we are staring relegation in the face.

To get a proven goal scorer at this level you be talking £800,000 and wages. You wouldn’t be able to loan such a player.
In our position would such a player want to come.
We have taken a chance on Okoronkwo who has played in league 2 and league1 okay not full games he may score with Adelakun more goals to improve our position we will have to see.

That would pay for itself if if it kept us up.

Gambling on an unproven kid on loan (on the cheap) is a huge risk, and if we go down, its bye bye Bailey and molyneux, we wont recover for a decade.

The real ambition being shown here

And if it didn’t keep you up you’ve spent 800k plus wages on a 4 year deal for someone crippling what you can do in the next windows and even putting the future of the club at stake. Unless we get a new benefactor in this club or make a large sale the chances of us spending those sums on 1 player are pretty much zero